# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26522 "2016-01-06T16:45:53Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Not your typical GOP elected scumbag but some Fox News monkey [suggested](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-news-host-obama-used-%E2%80%98raw-onion%E2%80%99-to-cry/ar-AAgpy9L?li=BBnb7Kz)Obama’s tearing up at his speech on guns were caused by raw onions. I’m not sure what narrative this is supposed to fit, that Sandy Hook was a hoax or Obama couldn’t possibly care about dead kids.

You can’t blame them, it’s their own experience showing. They can’t gin up credible tears for dead children without onions, so they assume no one else can.

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26523 "2016-01-06T17:25:04Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> After delivering the child, she wrote, she “ran up and down stairs” searching around the home for something he could use to clip the placenta off.\*
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> A woman running around the house, up and down the stairs, right after delivering? Yeah, I am believing that.

Uh, wouldn’t a knife be used for that? I doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out where in the house to find a knife.

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**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26524 "2016-01-06T17:31:59Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> I don’t know - you hear stories about peasant woman giving birth in the fields and going right back to work, so I guess it is possible if she had an easy, quick labor (which it sounds like she must have). What I don’t understand is why \*she \*was running around while Ben held the baby.

Sounds like a classic GOP scenario - the little woman does all the running around so the man gets to be the hero of her story.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26525 "2016-01-06T18:21:24Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> … I’m not sure what narrative this is supposed to fit, that Sandy Hook was a hoax or Obama couldn’t possibly care about dead kids.

Possibly that Obama loves onions and has bad breath --MUSLIM breath!

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26526 "2016-01-06T18:51:25Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Was Ben running behind her, baby in one hand, placenta in the other and a mop in his gripping hand, cleaning up all the blood she was splattering up and down the stairs?

If she has her placenta in her hand, she no longer needs a clamp for the cord. She could just drop it in the trash. But yeah, she’d be making a bigger mess by walking around with an unclamped cord. She should just hold it shut and expel the placenta. And if she did it right, most of the blood would flow to the baby before cutting the cord.

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26527 "2016-01-06T18:52:26Z")

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> [@Katriona](#):
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> Sounds like a classic GOP scenario - the little woman does all the running around so the man gets to be the hero of her story.

Or men are clueless and women have to help them with everything. That’s the been-married-a-long-time scenario.

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26528 "2016-01-06T18:56:45Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> Uh, wouldn’t a knife be used for that? I doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out where in the house to find a knife.

I think “clip the placenta off” means something to close an already cut cord to prevent blood from escaping.

If it wasn’t cut yet, that means either the placenta was already out of the mom and attached to the baby, or Ben was walking behind her holding the baby while it was still attached to the cord whose other end was still inside mom. The latter is less likely, but funnier to imagine.

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26529 "2016-01-06T18:57:45Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> That’s pretty much the consensus among those who post online comments on news articles. The phrases “alligator tears” and “oscar performance” were widely used (although usually misspelled.)

I’ll bet John Boehner cried when he read those comments.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26530 "2016-01-06T19:04:59Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> Uh, wouldn’t a knife be used for that? I doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out where in the house to find a knife.

They meant clamp off, not cut off. But that’s the least of the problems with the story.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26531 "2016-01-06T19:14:31Z")

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[Roy Moore, the crazy Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, has issued an order forbidding state courts from issuing same sex marriage licenses.](http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/6/1466678/-AL-Supreme-Court-Chief-Justice-orders-courts-to-immediately-stop-issuing-same-sex-marriage-licenses?detail=facebook)

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**Author:** ![Spiff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiff/32/9852_2.png) [@Spiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiff)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26532 "2016-01-06T19:14:57Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> No, no. Oral sex is real.

Real _good_, amirite?

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26533 "2016-01-06T19:16:55Z")

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> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> If she has her placenta in her hand, she no longer needs a clamp for the cord. She could just drop it in the trash. But yeah, she’d be making a bigger mess by walking around with an unclamped cord. She should just hold it shut and expel the placenta. And if she did it right, most of the blood would flow to the baby before cutting the cord.

Women bleed for 40 days after having a kid. Hold it shut? What the hell are you talking about?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26534 "2016-01-06T19:20:03Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Was Ben running behind her, baby in one hand, placenta in the other and a mop in his gripping hand, cleaning up all the blood she was splattering up and down the stairs?

Read _The Mote in God’s Eye_, have you?

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26535 "2016-01-06T19:35:17Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Women bleed for 40 days after having a kid. Hold it shut? What the hell are you talking about?

A woman MIGHT bleed A LITTLE after childbirth, but usually not enough to drip on the floor. If she’s bleeding that much for that long, something is wrong.

Most of the blood in childbirth comes from the placenta after the cord is cut. Once it is gone or the placenta is expelled, there’s very little blood involved.

After the cord is cut, they usually clamp it shut to keep the blood to a minimum. If she were searching for something to clamp it, she’d need to hold it shut.

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26536 "2016-01-06T19:37:56Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Read _The Mote in God’s Eye_, have you?

No but obviously I need to.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26537 "2016-01-06T19:39:20Z")

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> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> A woman MIGHT bleed A LITTLE after childbirth, but usually not enough to drip on the floor. If she’s bleeding that much for that long, something is wrong.
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> Most of the blood in childbirth comes from the placenta after the cord is cut. Once it is gone or the placenta is expelled, there’s very little blood involved.
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> After the cord is cut, they usually clamp it shut to keep the blood to a minimum. If she were searching for something to clamp it, she’d need to hold it shut.

Nope. I bled like a pig for two weeks. The blood came from me. As did most of the women in the ward. The hospital supplied gigantic pads that made me laugh. We all still walked around for the 3 days we were there, holding our groins and dripping blood on the floor. But I’m sure your experience was different when you had your baby.

[Bleeding after birth.](https://www.nct.org.uk/parenting/guide-blood-loss-after-birth)

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26538 "2016-01-06T19:45:57Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Women bleed for 40 days after having a kid. Hold it shut? What the hell are you talking about?

Well, if you’re Ben Carson, you probably believe (Leviticus 12) that women are unclean for a week after delivering a son, and it takes 40 days before they are fully purified.

And of course, if it’s a daughter, the times are doubled. Icky girls.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26539 "2016-01-06T19:46:46Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Roy Moore, the crazy Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, has issued an order forbidding state courts from issuing same sex marriage licenses.](http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/6/1466678/-AL-Supreme-Court-Chief-Justice-orders-courts-to-immediately-stop-issuing-same-sex-marriage-licenses?detail=facebook)

Is there any truth at all to his statement that’s the head of the state court system: “Moore said he issued the order today in his role as administrative head of the state court system.”? I was under the impression that the state courts, much like the federal courts, are separated, and each court operates in isolation as far as administrative stuff is concerned. Chief Justice Roberts couldn’t just, for example, order the 9th circuit to do something because he’s their boss.

I ask because first, Moore is a fucking shitcunt, but I wonder about the job security of the lower level court judges and officials if they simply ignore him. Could they just go “Oh, that asshole Moore saying shit about the gays again, here’s your marriage certificate anyways Mr. X, I now pronounce you and Mr. Z married”

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26540 "2016-01-06T20:00:11Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Nope. I bled like a pig for two weeks. The blood came from me. As did most of the women in the ward. The hospital supplied gigantic pads that made me laugh. We all still walked around for the 3 days we were there, holding our groins and dripping blood on the floor. But I’m sure your experience was different when you had your baby.
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> [Bleeding after birth.](https://www.nct.org.uk/parenting/guide-blood-loss-after-birth)

Did you have an epidural? I presume you didn’t have a c-section.

My wife left the hospital two days after. She bled, but not that much. I admit that it’s been a while though.

But we’re off track a little.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26541 "2016-01-06T20:12:10Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Is there any truth at all to his statement that’s the head of the state court system: “Moore said he issued the order today in his role as administrative head of the state court system.”? I was under the impression that the state courts, much like the federal courts, are separated, and each court operates in isolation as far as administrative stuff is concerned. Chief Justice Roberts couldn’t just, for example, order the 9th circuit to do something because he’s their boss.

Yes, it’s true. State courts, at least in most states, are run from the top down. Remember, except for SCOTUS all federal courts are created by Congress. State lower courts are generally direct constititutional mandates. Also, Roberts can tell the 9th Circuit what to do, in many respects: SCOTUS adopts the federal rules of procedure, though Congress can veto them.

In most states marriage licenses are issued by county clerks, who are not judicial officers, but Alabama’s are issued by probate judges, who are. So he is very much within his authority under Alabama law (though not federal law).

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