# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Spavined\_Gelding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Spavined\_Gelding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spavined_Gelding)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2641 "2011-03-17T02:54:39Z")

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The more idiot ridden half of the Iowa legislature has just passed a bill which renders it a crime to secretly film or video any farm animal. The motivation is pretty obvious since there have been some scandals about inhumane kosher slaughter and neglect and brutalization of hens in commercial egg production plants.

The whole thing seem a bit ironic when you consider that the same Reps who voted for this measure generally applaud James O’Keefe little cinematic adventures.

I am certain that the Leg’s concern is for the privacy of cows in slaughter houses and chickens in egg laying batteries. It is the same protection afforded the sensibilities users of girls’ gym showers. No serious person could reasonably think that the objective is to protect Big Agriculture.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2642 "2011-03-17T03:11:55Z")

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So, Aggie porn is illegal?

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2643 "2011-03-17T03:36:35Z")

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Not if the animal consents.

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2644 "2011-03-17T03:37:49Z")

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Er, not that I have first hand knowledge of that. Nothing to see here, move along…

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2645 "2011-03-17T05:25:51Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> So, Aggie porn is illegal?

> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> Not if the animal consents.

> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> Er, not that I have first hand knowledge of that. Nothing to see here, move along…

I think the principle of “implied consent” applies in this case. Unless the animal in question has filed a signed, notarized statement to the contrary with the county clerk, you’re in the clear.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2646 "2011-03-17T06:12:47Z")

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Well, that would do it. Had more than one blow to my dignity, Lord knows, but that would just about tear it Get a restraining order from livestock, I’d blow my brains out.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2647 "2011-03-17T12:00:22Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> [Quote=elucidator]  
> So, Aggie porn is illegal?

[Quote=Dag Otto]  
Not if the animal consents.  
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[Quote=Dag Otto]  
Er, not that I have first hand knowledge of that. Nothing to see here, move along…  
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I think the principle of “implied consent” applies in this case. Unless the animal in question has filed a signed, notarized statement to the contrary with the county clerk, you’re in the clear.  
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Trust these Ottos to stick together.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2648 "2011-03-17T13:57:13Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Trust these Ottos to stick together.

Careful. Evil Otto might go Berzerk.

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**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2649 "2011-03-17T14:01:44Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> Careful. Evil Otto might go Berzerk.

And start taking nehkid peektures of cows.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2650 "2011-03-17T16:17:20Z")

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[Story here](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/16/sharron-angle-expected-to_n_836593.html).

If this doesn’t qualify as a stupid idea, I don’t know what does. Supporting her, maybe?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2651 "2011-03-17T16:20:44Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> [Story here](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/16/sharron-angle-expected-to_n_836593.html).
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> If this doesn’t qualify as a stupid idea, I don’t know what does. Supporting her, maybe?

The good news is that if she wins. she’ll be replacing Ensign, so the conservative bloc won’t won’t be changed much. In the meantime, I look forward to lots of entertainment.

Do the Dems have anyone credible to put up for the seat?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2652 "2011-03-17T16:24:26Z")

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She’s actually trying to run for the House seat of the guy (Heller) who is running to replace Ensign.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2653 "2011-03-17T16:35:21Z")

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I realize that all politicians do it, but I just found it funny that Sharron Angle spent $31 million and went $350,000 into the red trying to secure a job with a $174,000salary, and was running on a platform of cleaning up the deficit.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2654 "2011-03-17T16:41:11Z")

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Just doing her bit to stimulate the economy.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2655 "2011-03-17T18:01:29Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> She’s actually trying to run for the House seat of the guy (Heller) who is running to replace Ensign.

Oops, oughta read more before posting.

I would love to see another candidate run against her, parroting her exact political positions almost word for word, but wearing a clown costume at every appearance. Also, rather than running away and refusing to answer what the crazy phrases like “2nd Amendment remedies” mean, the clown will stick around and talk about shooting people.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2656 "2011-03-17T18:58:57Z")

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“Republican Party, 123,875 votes. Silly Party, 34,989 votes. Very Silly Party, 11,297 votes…”

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**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2657 "2011-03-17T19:09:37Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> [Story here](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/16/sharron-angle-expected-to_n_836593.html).
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> If this doesn’t qualify as a stupid idea, I don’t know what does. Supporting her, maybe?

Northern Nevada is pretty conservative. They’ve elected her to the state senate before, so don’t count her out.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2658 "2011-03-17T19:34:55Z")

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Somebody tell me this is just the result of a misreading or a deliberately misleading story on an obviously lefty site:

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> Minnesota Republicans are pushing legislation that would make it a crime for people on public assistance to have more $20 in cash in their pockets any given month. This represents a change from their initial proposal, which banned them from having any money at all.
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> House File 171 would make it so that families on MFIP - and disabled single adults on General Assistance and Minnesota Supplemental Aid - could not have their cash grants in cash or put into a checking account. Rather, they could only use a state-issued debit card at special terminals in certain businesses that are set up to accept the card.

]([Minnesota Republicans say: Poor people with money should be outlaws — Fight Back! News](http://www.fightbacknews.org/2011/3/15/minnesota-republicans-say-poor-people-money-should-be-outlaws))

It’s sad that I feel like there’s even a chance it could be true. Minnesotans, please tell me this is a giant scam or misunderstanding?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2659 "2011-03-17T19:42:25Z")

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When I look up Minnesota House File 171 I get an item from 2009 that has to do with Health Care.

[http://teapartypatriotsofthetwincities.org/MN\_HouseFile171.pdf](http://teapartypatriotsofthetwincities.org/MN_HouseFile171.pdf)  
Do they renumber these every year? Maybe this year’s House File 171 is different.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2660 "2011-03-17T19:44:38Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Somebody tell me this is just the result of a misreading or a deliberately misleading story on an obviously lefty site:
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> It’s sad that I feel like there’s even a chance it could be true. Minnesotans, please tell me this is a giant scam or misunderstanding?

The actual bill is [url=[HF 171 as introduced - 87th Legislature (2011 - 2012)](https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill.php?bill=H0171.0.html&session=ls87)]here]([Minnesota Republicans say: Poor people with money should be outlaws — Fight Back! News](http://www.fightbacknews.org/2011/3/15/minnesota-republicans-say-poor-people-money-should-be-outlaws)). It appears to forbid recipients from getting cash out of ATMs or getting cash back at POS from their EBT card. It doesn’t appear to outlaw carrying cash of any amount, though. Not that forbidding EBT benefits from being withdrawn as cash (assuming the recipient receives actual assistance as distinguished from food stamps) is a GOOD thing.

It also appears to forbid the use of assistance funds to buy cigarettes, alcohol or lottery tickets (you already can’t use food stamps funds to buy those things anywhere). I wonder if enforcing that provision is why the “no cash” rule was brought in?

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