# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2701 "2011-03-31T00:40:05Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> Found it:  
> [http://goonanism.com/blog/2008/02/05/top-100-quotes-on-message-boards-from-fundamentalist-christians/](http://goonanism.com/blog/2008/02/05/top-100-quotes-on-message-boards-from-fundamentalist-christians/)

My favorite from that batch:

> [@](#):
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> One of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an environment will increase. Evolution argues differently against a law that is accepted EVERYWHERE BY EVERYONE. Evolution says that we started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just isn’t possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source, scientists would certainly know about it.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2702 "2011-03-31T01:07:56Z")

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> [@Some mouthbreather](#):
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> One of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an environment will increase. Evolution argues differently against a law that is accepted EVERYWHERE BY EVERYONE. Evolution says that we started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just isn’t possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source, scientists would certainly know about it.

I wonder if I could get grant money to locate such an energy source. I’ll call the project the Search for Undiscovered eNergy, or SUN for short. Government agencies love acronyms.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2703 "2011-03-31T01:34:41Z")

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> I wonder if I could get grant money to locate such an energy source. I’ll call the project the Search for Undiscovered eNergy, or SUN for short. Government agencies love acronyms.

I had a hunch that there was something wrong with that argument, but couldn’t put my finger on it. Then, finally, it dawned on me…

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2704 "2011-03-31T03:54:11Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> couldn’t put my **finger** on it. Then, finally, it **dawned** on me…

Is that you, Rosie?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2705 "2011-03-31T11:59:54Z")

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**Steve MB** , please tell me that one is parody!

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2706 "2011-03-31T12:28:45Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> **Steve MB** , please tell me that one is parody!

It’s real as far as anyone can tell; of course, the original posting might have been somebody trolling the fundies.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2707 "2011-03-31T12:40:49Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> **Steve MB** , please tell me that one is parody!

No, that’s a serious argument I often hear from (very stupid) anti-evolutionists.

I usually counter that by that argument, cleaning up your house also violates the second law.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2708 "2011-03-31T12:47:14Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> It’s real as far as anyone can tell; of course, the original posting might have been somebody trolling the fundies.

It just ends with such a blatant thud (“surely scientists would know about it!”) that I can’t believe it _isn’t_ someone on our side being snarky. Which would be wasted on these people, really, because they don’t even know what irony means.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2709 "2011-03-31T12:48:15Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> No, that’s a serious argument I often hear from (very stupid) anti-evolutionists.

Oh, I know the argument itself is one they use. I was talking about the phrasing of the one **Steve MB** quoted…it sounds like someone being snarky.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2710 "2011-03-31T13:12:23Z")

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Ah - I could have been caught up in Poe’s Law. It wouldn’t have been the first time.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2711 "2011-03-31T13:37:23Z")

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I’ve traced the quote to [its original source](http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=1073734&postcount=232).

> [@](#):
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> Believe it or not, you were perfect when you were born. You were obviously healthy if you are posting here today, you hadn’t sinned, and were making choices and using your free will, though they were small choices. Unfortunately, later in your life you made some bad choices and now you are a sinner, but remember, God MADE you perfect.
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> One of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an environment will increase. Evolution argues differently against a law that is accepted EVERYWHERE BY EVERYONE. Evolution says that we started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just isn’t possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source, scientists would certainly know about it.

And here’s [the response](http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=1074752&postcount=244) after somebody tried playing the “sun” card:

> [@](#):
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> Sorry, my mistake guys, I didn’t explain why the Sun doesn’t count. Here is the info on that from [ChristianAnswers.net](http://ChristianAnswers.net):
> 
> Is Energy the Key?  
> To create any kind of upward, complex organization in a closed system requires outside energy and outside information. Evolutionists maintain that the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics does not prevent Evolution on Earth, since this planet receives outside energy from the Sun. Thus, they suggest that the Sun’s energy helped create the life of our beautiful planet. However, is the simple addition of energy all that is needed to accomplish this great feat?
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> Compare a living plant with a dead one. Can the simple addition of energy make a completely dead plant live?
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> A dead plant contains the same basic structures as a living plant. It once used the Sun’s energy to temporarily increase its order and grow and produce stems, leaves, roots, and flowers - all beginning from a single seed.
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> If there is actually a powerful Evolutionary force at work in the universe, and if the open system of Earth makes all the difference, why does the Sun’s energy not make a truly dead plant become alive again (assuming a sufficient supply of water, light, and the like)?
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> What actually happens when a dead plant receives energy from the Sun? The internal organization in the plant decreases; it tends to decay and break apart into its simplest components. The heat of the Sun only speeds the disorganization process.
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> You were born perfect, now I don’t mean perfect like muscly body and everything is the “normal” conditions. I mean perfect as in you haven’t sinned. I doubt that anybody has come out of their mother and shouted the f word.
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> In response to Crimson King: Of course we use science to prove you wrong, but of course you just deny it. Jesus is the son of God so therefore can perform miracles. Raising from the dead is nothing short of a miracle. Creationists have their essential beliefs about God, and take those views and put them to use when they find scientific evidence. Those views more than always agree with the evidence.

Teh stoopid… it burns…

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2712 "2011-03-31T13:43:22Z")

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> [@Truman\_Burbank](#):
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> If you give them a job of only $174,000 (not including benefits), do they not whine?  
> No, wait, I get it, they _feel our pain_…

It gets better…

> [@](#):
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> [Sean Duffy Says $174,000 Annual Salary Isn’t Enough](http://www.thirdage.com/news/sean-duffy-says-174000-annual-salary-isnt-enough_3-31-2011)
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> Sean Duffy, current Wisconsin Republican Representative and former Real World cast member, told constituents at a town hall meeting this week that he struggles to pay his bills on $174,000 annually.
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> Duffy complained about being in debt, paying too much for healthcare, and driving a used minivan.
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> The Congressman’s “rant” was captured on video and can be seen on liberal websites all over the Internet. **Excerpts from the video were also on the Polk County GOP party’s website, but they removed it and are now demanding the tape be removed from all websites** …

So not only is Duffy an idiot, but apparently so is (at least) the guy in charge of the Polk County GOP website. 😛

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2713 "2011-03-31T22:53:32Z")

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**Do we go into Africa next?**

That’s what PA Congressman (R) Tom Marino wants to know.  
“The bottom line is I wish the president would have told us, talked to Congress about what is the plan. Is there a plan? Is the mission to take Gadhafi out?” Mr. Marino asked… “Where does it stop?” he said. “ **Do we go into Africa next?** I don’t want to sound callous or cold, but this could go on indefinitely around the world.”  
So what say all you good folks? Do we go into Africa _next_?

Bonus question: What Committee do you think this Representative sits on?

[Answer at the link](http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/frosh-goper-on-foreign-affairs-committee-wonders-if-obama-will-attack-africa-after-libya.php).

Bonus Bonus question: On what _Sub_-Committees do you think he sits on?

[Answer at the link](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Marino#Committee_assignments).

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2714 "2011-03-31T23:34:09Z")

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Aw, hell, that’s silly! Libya is full of A-rabs, but Africa is full of…colored folks!

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2715 "2011-03-31T23:36:35Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Aw, hell, that’s silly! Libya is full of A-rabs, but Africa is full of…colored folks!

For a second, I thought I heard horses whinnying.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2716 "2011-03-31T23:58:42Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Aw, hell, that’s silly! Libya is full of A-rabs, but Africa is full of…colored folks!

No, no, that’s towel-heads to you, bub.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2717 "2011-04-01T02:57:17Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> For a second, I thought I heard horses whinnying.

Frau Blücher!

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2718 "2011-04-01T02:59:30Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> Frau Blücher!

Different Mel Brooks movie, but I’ll accept it for credit.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2719 "2011-04-01T03:08:33Z")

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_Schvartzes!_

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**Author:** ![legalsnugs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@legalsnugs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/legalsnugs)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2720 "2011-04-01T05:25:12Z")

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Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX), a perennial favorite, believes that:

> [@](#):
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> The administration’s Libya operation is actually a false flag, to draw down the country’s military reserves, and give Obama the excuse he needs to call up his private army.

[Cite](http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/gohmert-libya-attacks-are-false-flag-for-obama-to-call-up-private-army-created-by-health-care-law.php?ref=fpblg).

I’ll bet the uniforms look cool. :rolleyes:

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