# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1361
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27202 "2016-02-08T18:00:15Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > \*\*Fun in the Republican controlled Wisconsin legislature. \*\* None of the promised laser focus on jobs but they’ve got time to try to [defund Planned Parenthood](http://www.jsonline.com/business/bills-targeting-planned-parenthood-may-end-up-doing-nothing-b99662607z1-367432851.html)(Federal program, no state authority) and [they want to pass a law aimed at a specific potential Democratic candidate for State Senate.](http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/scott-fitzgerald-wants-to-bar-county-executives-from-legislature/article_63fe688e-c278-5a4e-af54-6c81aa27d0fa.html) Well, they’re laser focused on _one_ job. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27203 "2016-02-08T19:00:09Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Republicans in the Michigan legislature passed a law outlawing “the abominable and detestable crime against nature” whether straight or gay.](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/02/06/michigan-republicans-pass-bill-that-would-put-gay-and-straight-couples-in-prison/) > > It was attached as a rider to a bill outlawing animal abuse. I don’t understand this. The phrase “against nature” is mentioned once in this bill and so there doesn’t seem to be a statutory definition of what acts constitute “the abominable and detestable crime against nature” The bill also makes no mention of anal, oral, or sodomy. So can someone help me understand where it’s referenced that sodomy is now outlawed? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27204 "2016-02-08T19:11:37Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > I don’t understand this. The phrase “against nature” is mentioned once in this bill and so there doesn’t seem to be a statutory definition of what acts constitute “the abominable and detestable crime against nature” > > The bill also makes no mention of anal, oral, or sodomy. So can someone help me understand where it’s referenced that sodomy is now outlawed? What, sodomy?! It’s a bill to criminalize levitation! “In this house, young lady, we obey Newton’s Law of Universal Gravitation!” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27205 "2016-02-08T19:15:53Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > I don’t understand this. The phrase “against nature” is mentioned once in this bill and so there doesn’t seem to be a statutory definition of what acts constitute “the abominable and detestable crime against nature” > > The bill also makes no mention of anal, oral, or sodomy. So can someone help me understand where it’s referenced that sodomy is now outlawed? From the article. > [@](#): > > He slipped in language revising the unconstitutional anti-sodomy law near the very end of the bill in a move that Jones probably hoped would go unnoticed. I’m going to guess this is altering some other law entirely, not the bill it’s in. I have no idea how that works in Michigan. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27206 "2016-02-08T19:17:19Z")
If ever there was a time to call their bluff, this is it. This bill criminalizes wives giving blowjobs. Let them have it and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27207 "2016-02-08T19:20:36Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > If ever there was a time to call their bluff, this is it. This bill criminalizes wives giving blowjobs. Let them have it and see what happens. _smirk_ “Sorry, dear . . . the law is the law . . .” ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27208 "2016-02-08T19:28:10Z")
I liked the phrase “sexually delinquent person” in the law. It sounds like someone who is behind on their installment plan or something. “Well, you are required to have sex by the first of the month, but according to our records, you’re delinquent.” I mean, first I’m delinquent, and now I can’t even rectify that with some sodomy, ferchrissake?! Come on, throw me a bone, here. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27209 "2016-02-08T19:44:20Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > I don’t understand this. The phrase “against nature” is mentioned once in this bill and so there doesn’t seem to be a statutory definition of what acts constitute “the abominable and detestable crime against nature” > > The bill also makes no mention of anal, oral, or sodomy. So can someone help me understand where it’s referenced that sodomy is now outlawed? Typically, legislatures were too squeamish in Ye Olden Days to actually mention sex acts when outlawing them. The “detestable crime against nature” is a fairly well-established, if not well-defined, common law term of art that (probably) covers bestiality, buggery and oral. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27210 "2016-02-08T19:45:48Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > I mean, first I’m delinquent, and now I can’t even rectify that with some sodomy, ferchrissake?! Come on, throw me a bone, here. :dubious: That depends. What do you plan to do with it? ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27211 "2016-02-08T20:06:48Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > From the article. > > I’m going to guess this is altering some other law entirely, not the bill it’s in. I have no idea how that works in Michigan. I looked in Chapter 750 of Michigan’s statutes (Michigan Penal Code), which is what is being amended for the four sections in this bill. Now, the title of 750.158 is “Crime against nature or sodomy; penalty” so that’s where I think these reporters are coming from. But there’s no statutory definition of “sodomy” anywhere in the MI penal code. The law itself (750.158) doesn’t even have the word sodomy in it! So I would argue that, when you take the title into account, sodomy is a separate act from a “crime against nature” and one that still isn’t punishable. So hell, maybe Senator Rick Jones is actually trying to outlaw sodomy because he hates blow jobs so so much. I dunno. Never talked to the guy. But I would say that if that truly was his goal, he failed. And if that wasn’t his goal, we’re making a mountain out of a molehill. Oh and 750.159 is hilariously titled “Emission need not be proved” Take that, you pig fuckers! And now I’ve now spent way too long looking up sex acts within Michigan laws. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27212 "2016-02-08T20:11:32Z")
“penal” LOL. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27213 "2016-02-08T21:49:11Z")
Give Rick Jones a break. The Hulk wasn’t gentle with him at ALL! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27214 "2016-02-08T22:34:28Z")
[Islam is the only religion that has ever killed somebody.](http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/videos/daily-derp-fox-host-says-zero-people-killed-by-religions-other-than-islam/) ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27215 "2016-02-08T23:12:30Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > Oh and 750.159 is hilariously titled “Emission need not be proved” Take that, you pig fuckers! The maxim of the law is, “If it doesn’t stain, you can’t complain.” ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27216 "2016-02-08T23:15:34Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Islam is the only religion that has ever killed somebody.](http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/videos/daily-derp-fox-host-says-zero-people-killed-by-religions-other-than-islam/) Seriously, at what point does “uninformed” shade into “moronic”? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27217 "2016-02-08T23:21:19Z")
[You know who else blamed the Jews?](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/nras-ted-nugent-posts-anti-semitic-photo-facebook) > [@](#): > > NRA board member Ted Nugent posted a photo of Jewish leaders on his Facebook page today with the caption “So who is really behind gun control?” alleging that “these punks” support stricter gun laws because they “hate freedom.” Just to drive home the point that the pictured activists and politicians are Jewish, the photo includes an Israeli flag emblem by each person’s face. > > “Tell every1 you know how evil they are,” Nugent wrote. “Let us raise maximum hell to shut them down!” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27218 "2016-02-08T23:32:24Z")
[Anti-abortion activist isn’t doing it to save babies, he’s doing it to save white culture.](http://www.occupydemocrats.com/2016/02/08/racist-florida-republicans-attempt-to-ban-abortion-in-order-to-save-white-culture/) ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27219 "2016-02-08T23:38:38Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > “Well, you are required to have sex by the first of the month, but according to our records, you’re delinquent.” Hey, I’m depraved on account o’ I’m deprived! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27220 "2016-02-08T23:59:33Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > But there’s no statutory definition of “sodomy” anywhere in the MI penal code. From my reading the Bible, as near as I can tell it involves hitting on angels. Do they have a population of angels in Michigan, like Wisconsin has saucer people who offer you pancakes? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/27221 "2016-02-09T00:08:17Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > From my reading the Bible, as near as I can tell it involves hitting on angels. Do they have a population of angels in Michigan, like Wisconsin has saucer people who offer you pancakes? By Og, apparently [there are a sizable number of angels in Michigan](https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=michigan+angels)! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1360) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1362)