# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28182 "2016-03-28T23:47:01Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> “I see one fag wedding cake,” growleth the LORD, “it’s frogs and locusts, so help me Me!”

Frogs _and_ locusts? Wouldn’t that end up being just a plague of fat frogs?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28183 "2016-03-28T23:49:26Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> Frogs _and_ locusts? Wouldn’t that end up being just a plague of fat frogs?

And ultimately, obese Frenchmen.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28184 "2016-03-28T23:59:10Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> And ultimately, obese Frenchmen.

Well played!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28185 "2016-03-29T00:23:44Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Don’t forget the kids – they need guns too.

“All right, class, tomorrow’s homework will be . . . errmm . . . will be . . . class dismissed.”

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28186 "2016-03-29T00:42:28Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> The big question is will the legislature override? They have the votes for it. Whether the boycott and pull-out threats have convinced any of the original state reps and senators to reconsider is unknown right now.

My suspicion is that the answer to that question is “no.” The governor takes the heat for the veto, which means that they can make their bigoted constituents happy saying “I voted for it!” and to their big money constituents they say, “I begged the governor to veto the bill when I saw it would harm your interests, sir!” They’re covered coming and going. If they override, they have to take the heat from the big money constituents.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28187 "2016-03-29T01:10:59Z")

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> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> It’s an awful good idea, because if you don’t, you lose just due do the exposure of the hypocrisy and inconsisency of not allowing guns in the first place.
> 
> Not quite - you still haven’t managed to arm teachers to protect kids from school shootings.

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Don’t forget the kids – they need guns too.

“Whoever knows the answer to this question, raise your hands”.

That should get a response:eek:

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28188 "2016-03-29T02:32:56Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> And ultimately, obese Frenchmen.

Man, that Lord guy is a total dick, huh?

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28189 "2016-03-29T05:04:42Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Because gun control advocates are terrible liars? I don’t get your logic.

In the past, we’ve seen an occasional flash of intelligence from **adaher**. (Just occasional, but there are worse hanging out here.)

Now he’s now preparing to support His Party’s Choice in the upcoming election. So he’s been dumbing himself down…

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28190 "2016-03-29T09:29:30Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Reposting this link from that other thread over there: [there is a petition on change.org to make the Republican Convention venue suspend its gun-free-zone policy during the convention.](https://www.change.org/p/quicken-loans-arena-allow-open-carry-of-firearms-at-the-quicken-loans-arena-during-the-rnc-convention-in-july-2)
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> Now, I am not entirely sure that this is a Republican idea, _per se_, and the stupidness of it is kind of debatable (from either side), but it should still get a mention here. If for no other reason than to point out the comment below the petition, “_These guys should work with my other favorite charity- Americans for Responsible Drunk Driving._”

Every person I’ve seen pushing that petition on the interwebs has been, shall we say, not a Republican. I’m not sure they’re all hoping for a self-inflicted slaughter (although I don’t doubt they would appreciate the irony of one); mostly they seem to be enjoying highlighting what they see as hypocrisy in a group promoting gun carrying everywhere else except their own gatherings. It’s just more political theatre.

> [@Kimstu](#):
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> In other words, when you get to make up what your opponents’ “end goal” is, you can claim that since that made-up goal hasn’t been achieved, you’ve successfully defeated them! Congratulations! :rolleyes:

Pro-gun people aren’t allowed to go around shooting anyone they want, therefore the gun control side is winning! Also: something something tiger blood.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28191 "2016-03-29T10:29:35Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Because gun control advocates are terrible liars? I don’t get your logic.

Assuming they are telling the truth, we won. Their only goal is some reasonable restrictions like registration and background checks. Banning handguns, for example, a common 1970s gun control tool, seems to be off the table now.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28192 "2016-03-29T11:17:10Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> “I see one fag wedding cake,” growleth the LORD, “it’s frogs and locusts, so help me Me!”

Eddie Izzard on the [“plague of frogs”](https://youtu.be/8xnZlJMl4J8?t=224)

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28193 "2016-03-29T11:44:53Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Because gun control advocates are terrible liars? I don’t get your logic.

The only thing that stops a bad gal with an abortion…

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28194 "2016-03-29T15:32:45Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Because gun control advocates are terrible liars? I don’t get your logic.

Its even worse than that, if I try to follow Adher’s logic it would seem to support the exact opposite of what he’s trying to argue.

Following the discussion:

\*\*Adher: \*\* The gun rights side has won a long time ago the debate is over.  
\*\*Superdude: \*\* No they haven’t even though Abortion is never ever going to be banned, pro-lifers still wouldn’t say that pro-choice has won and the debate is over.  
\*\*Adher: \*\* But pro-lifers take an extreme position of a total ban while gun control advocates only claim to want increased regulation.  
\*\*Me: \*\*Well then given that unlike a total abortion ban, increased regulation could actually occur, doesn’t that suggest that the gun rights issue is in fact less settled than the abortion rights issue, and so Superdude’s point is even more correct?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28195 "2016-03-29T15:45:43Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> The only thing that stops a bad gal with an abortion…

Is a doctor with an invasive ultrasound?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28196 "2016-03-29T19:15:37Z")

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The New York police commissioner criticized Ted Cruz’s call for patrolling of Muslim neighborhoods. So Cruz’s response? “[The commissioner has no choice but to implement the Di Blasio-Obama liberal agenda](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cruz-blames-obama-de-blasio-muslim-surveillance-backlash).”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28197 "2016-03-29T22:36:40Z")

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Wait. We control the NYPD, the hacky sack fascists wield awesome power?

“Thank me, sir? No, sir, thank _you_, sir! Have a good day, and here are some brochures on making really yummy vegetarian meals for the whole family!”

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28198 "2016-03-29T23:08:29Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Donald Trump says we should [make the rules in the Geneva convention a lot tougher](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/trump-no-one-has-ever-been-slandered-more-me) so we can torture ISIS members.

So he speaks _bad_ English? Because “make the rules tougher” means the exact opposite of what he thinks it means.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28199 "2016-03-29T23:18:15Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> So he speaks _bad_ English?

He knows his constituency.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28200 "2016-03-30T02:18:54Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> So he speaks _bad_ English? Because “make the rules tougher” means the exact opposite of what he thinks it means.

In the early 90’s, I spoke [Bad English](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu6pclWsxzs).

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28201 "2016-03-30T04:06:45Z")

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The Mississippi State Senate has passed a [bill which would](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/miss-lawmakers-pass-bill-letting-churches-appoint-unaccountable-soldiers-of-god-as-armed-security/):

1-Allow members of a church’s congregation to carry concealed weapons  
2-Make any federal law which conflicts with the state constitution null and void.

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