# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28202 "2016-03-30T04:40:41Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The Mississippi State Senate has passed a [bill which would](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/miss-lawmakers-pass-bill-letting-churches-appoint-unaccountable-soldiers-of-god-as-armed-security/):
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> 1-Allow members of a church’s congregation to carry concealed weapons  
> 2-Make any federal law which conflicts with the state constitution null and void.

Wasn’t one civil war enough? Same damn people doing the same damn thing, trying to make the states superior in power to the federal government. I’m pretty certain that’s unconstitutional.

I swear, it’s the anti-federalists all over again. Where are Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay when you need 'em?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28203 "2016-03-30T05:26:52Z")

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Because freedom! _Religious_ freedom, no less. Got to make sure those churches are free.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28204 "2016-03-30T11:26:14Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Wasn’t one civil war enough? Same damn people doing the same damn thing, trying to make the states superior in power to the federal government. I’m pretty certain that’s unconstitutional.
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> I swear, it’s the anti-federalists all over again. Where are Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay when you need 'em?

Supremacy clause aside, states are not obligated to help the federal government enforce any federal law. So while “null and void” is just stupid theater meant to impress the ignorant, the federal government counts on state help for some laws and if it doesn’t get that help, “null and void” is pretty close to the reality. Marijuana laws being a good example.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28205 "2016-03-30T16:16:48Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> The only thing that stops a bad gal with an abortion…

Next they’ll be arming fetuses. After all, its the only way for them to protect themselves

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28206 "2016-03-30T16:35:41Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> They should allow guns at the convention. THen when nothing happens, we win. Although we won the gun argument a long time ago.

Win what? I didn’t realize this was a game where victory is declared once you unlock ACHIEVEMENT: GunCon.

But ok, let’s follow your logic. If something happens at a convention where they allow guns, do you now lose? What do you lose? What are you willing to give up on this gamble? Play the game with me.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28207 "2016-03-30T16:37:31Z")

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If they allowed everyone to bring guns and something bad happened, yes, that would be a major setback for gun rights advocates.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28208 "2016-03-30T17:05:17Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The Mississippi State Senate has passed a [bill which would](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/miss-lawmakers-pass-bill-letting-churches-appoint-unaccountable-soldiers-of-god-as-armed-security/):
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> 1-Allow members of a church’s congregation to carry concealed weapons  
> 2-Make any federal law which conflicts with the state constitution null and void.

“I am come not to bring peace, but a select-fire AR-15 with full-metal-jacket ammo.”

– Armaments 3:12.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28209 "2016-03-30T17:21:42Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> “I am come not to bring peace, but a select-fire AR-15 with full-metal-jacket ammo.”
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> – Armaments 3:12.

Good to see that book doesn’t only speak about Holy Hand Grenades. …

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28210 "2016-03-30T18:42:13Z")

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I guess you can’t say this is a stupid idea, because it follows on from their idea that lame duck Presidents can’t nominate Supreme Court justices, but [the “House Freedom Caucus” is floating an idea to shut down all of Congress after the election until the newly elected members take office](http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/30/1507793/-House-Freedom-Caucus-thinks-there-s-not-enough-chaos-in-the-GOP-is-ready-to-inject-some-more).

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28211 "2016-03-30T19:04:44Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> I guess you can’t say this is a stupid idea, because it follows on from their idea that lame duck Presidents can’t nominate Supreme Court justices, but [the “House Freedom Caucus” is floating an idea to shut down all of Congress after the election until the newly elected members take office](http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/30/1507793/-House-Freedom-Caucus-thinks-there-s-not-enough-chaos-in-the-GOP-is-ready-to-inject-some-more).

Shut down Congress? How could we tell the difference?

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28212 "2016-03-30T19:07:40Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Shut down Congress? How could we tell the difference?

The vote count on repealing Obamacare remains steady.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28213 "2016-03-30T19:16:18Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> I guess you can’t say this is a stupid idea, because it follows on from their idea that lame duck Presidents can’t nominate Supreme Court justices, but [the “House Freedom Caucus” is floating an idea to shut down all of Congress after the election until the newly elected members take office](http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/30/1507793/-House-Freedom-Caucus-thinks-there-s-not-enough-chaos-in-the-GOP-is-ready-to-inject-some-more).

So… they want to allow Obama to make recess appointments, then?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28214 "2016-03-30T19:30:53Z")

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Let’s **all** join the House Freedom Caucus!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28215 "2016-03-30T19:33:03Z")

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Hey, yeah, I want some freedom!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28216 "2016-03-30T19:36:57Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> So… they want to allow Obama to make recess appointments, then?

Which would stand for eleven weeks?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28217 "2016-03-30T19:53:01Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Hey, yeah, I want some freedom!

But I just mailed you some last week . . . maybe there wasn’t enough postage.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28218 "2016-03-30T20:00:18Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> But I just mailed you some last week . . . maybe there wasn’t enough postage.

Freedom isn’t Free.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28219 "2016-03-30T20:00:19Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> But I just mailed you some last week . . . maybe there wasn’t enough postage.

Freedom isn’t free?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28220 "2016-03-30T20:01:20Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Freedom isn’t free?

Great Minds Run in the Same Channel.

On the other hand, Fools Think Alike.

(My thanks to Robert Ripley, of _Believe it or Not_)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28221 "2016-03-30T20:02:40Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Freedom isn’t Free.

> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Freedom isn’t free?

And if you won’t give your $1.05, who will?

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