# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28262 "2016-03-31T22:13:26Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Wait. Hold it. When is a “concealed revolver” _not_ a “concealed pistol”?

[Here ya go.](https://www.google.com/search?q=revolver+rifle&biw=1600&bih=785&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwj6mPTd-OvLAhXLMyYKHatzDOUQsAQIGw)

You’re welcome! (Good luck concealing one of these, but I guess a looooong jacket…)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28263 "2016-03-31T22:24:07Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Wait. Hold it. When is a “concealed revolver” _not_ a “concealed pistol”?

Pistol (in this sort of context) is meant to refer to a semi-auto pistol.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28264 "2016-03-31T22:27:39Z")

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Ah, yes! How Aggies play Russian Roulette.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28265 "2016-03-31T22:54:00Z")

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A pistol has a single chamber integral with the barrel. A revolver (a revolving pistol) has numerous chambers in a cylinder that revolves to line up its chambers one at a time with the barrel. That sort of distinction is important to the nutters, rather than simply using the term handgun.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28266 "2016-03-31T23:52:46Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Ah, yes! How Aggies play Russian Roulette.

Are you sure? Because I thought they used a classic revolver [like this one](http://www.historytoday.com/richard-cavendish/gatling-gun-patented).

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28267 "2016-04-01T00:21:02Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Mississippi Senate passes bills allowing churches to form militias.](http://www.salon.com/2016/03/31/someone_thought_this_was_a_good_idea_mississippi_senate_passes_bill_allowing_churches_to_form_militias/) What’s more,

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> The Act would, in part, “provide that killing a person while acting as a participant of a church or place of worship security team is justifiable homicide.” Such church security teams would authorize “designated members … to carry firearms for the protection of the congregation of such church or place of worship.”

Does ‘church’ include ‘mosque’?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28268 "2016-04-01T00:53:35Z")

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> [@SantaMan](#):
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> assuming I am not being whooshed, there’s a little show running on broadway at the moment that has been getting a little bit of press: [linky](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton_%28musical%29)

Peter Sagal, host of _Wait, Wait, Don’t Tell Me_, made a pledge time promo in which he suggests they cash in on the Hamilton phenom by his dressing in a waistcoat and wig and discussing late-18th-century monetary policy. The imaginary audience booed the lack of hip hop.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28269 "2016-04-01T01:00:13Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Mississippi Senate passes bills allowing churches to form militias.](http://www.salon.com/2016/03/31/someone_thought_this_was_a_good_idea_mississippi_senate_passes_bill_allowing_churches_to_form_militias/) What’s more,

This might not be a stupid idea.

[WBUR](http://www.npr.org/2015/06/29/418490411/arsonists-hit-6-black-churches-in-5-southern-states)

[The Atlantic](http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2015/06/arson-churches-north-carolina-georgia/396881/)

[And the Snopes article that assures us that the black churches burned wasn’t unusual](http://www.snopes.com/2015/07/06/black-churches-burning/)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28270 "2016-04-01T01:27:20Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> Does ‘church’ include ‘mosque’?

Well, it says “church or place of worship.”

Which with a little creative interpretation might also allow for militias in brothels.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28271 "2016-04-01T01:34:56Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Well, it says “church or place of worship.”
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> Which with a little creative interpretation might also allow for militias in brothels.

Surely only if the brothel is on a boat ?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28272 "2016-04-01T01:41:25Z")

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I wonder how fast they decide to repeal it when there are black militias guarding their churches. Probably have a few major busts of inner city churches, accusing them of hiring gang members and ‘brandishing’ firearms. Then of course, someone (black) is going to be shot.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28273 "2016-04-01T01:49:20Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Well, it says “church or place of worship.”
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> Which with a little creative interpretation might also allow for militias in brothels.

Well, if you claimed to be a South-Indian Hindu, or whatever they are down there, considering the way they decorated their temples, calling a brothel a place of worship might not seem to be a major reach.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28274 "2016-04-01T01:55:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …killing a person while acting as a participant of a church or place of worship security team is justifiable homicide.

Uh… does it matter who that person is, or what they’re doing at the time?

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28275 "2016-04-01T02:12:09Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Do we really want that person practicing any form of psychotherapy at all?

well probably not. But I can’t do much about that. So I’d rather those people at least have the option of refusing to treat rather than compelling them to do so and messing up the heads of already vulnerable people because of their religious beliefs. Of the two choices, I think that’s at least the better option.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28276 "2016-04-01T04:27:58Z")

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> [@Peremensoe](#):
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> Uh… does it matter who that person is, or what they’re doing at the time?

You know what altars are for.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28277 "2016-04-01T11:17:52Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Well, if you claimed to be a South-Indian Hindu, or whatever they are down there, considering the way they decorated their temples, calling a brothel a place of worship might not seem to be a major reach.

No need to be all exotic about it. Greeks and Romans had temples attended by holy prostitutes, for some divinities. Venereal diseases took an entirely different (but etymologically appropriate) dimension I suppose 😉

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28278 "2016-04-01T11:31:37Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> You know what altars are for.

Alterations?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28279 "2016-04-01T11:36:00Z")

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Altar egos?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28280 "2016-04-01T14:20:59Z")

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Altar boys. That is why the top of an altar is at perfect bend-'em-over height.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/28281 "2016-04-01T15:39:48Z")

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> [@Peremensoe](#):
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> Uh… does it matter who that person is, or what they’re doing at the time?

Reading the law [(pdf)](http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/documents/2016/pdf/HB/0700-0799/HB0786PS.pdf), all it says is

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> Any person who is indicted or charged with a violation of criminal law while acting in his capacity as a member of a security program of a church or place of worship may assert as a defense in addition to any other defense available, that at the time of the action in question, he or she was a member of a church or place of worship security program, was then actually engaged in the performance of his or her duties as a member of such program

And nowhere is the scope of duties specified. Other than to say that it includes

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> resisting any unlawful attempt to kill a member(s) or attendee(s) of such church or place of worship, or to commit any felony upon any such member or attendee in the church or place of worship or in the immediate premises thereof.

So it sounds as if Church says that executing gays falls under the duties its Security team, then you’re free to do so.

I’d actually be interested in hearing Bricker’s reading of the limits of the law.

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