# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29642 "2016-06-16T18:03:39Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Want to make more that $7.50 an hour in Alabama? [Tough Shit Numb Nutz.](http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2016/02/23/3752525/alabama-birmingham-minimum-wage/)

They claim to prefer local rule over big government… unless they disagree with the local rules and agree with the big government.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29643 "2016-06-16T18:23:51Z")

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Democrats believe decisions should be made by a strong central government. Republicans believe that decisions should be made by whatever level of government is controlled by Republicans.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29644 "2016-06-16T18:52:13Z")

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The man behind the attempt to get an anti-trans referendum on the ballot in my state has come up with a new plan for how to get petition signatures, and it’s[exactly as hypocritical and stupid as you might expect;](http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/is-it-only-a-joke-local-transgender-community-concerned-about-comments/344115923)

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> For the gentlemen, what I would encourage you to do, if you are so bold and to make the point, take your petition and stand outside the women’s restroom at the mall. If any of the women don’t want to sign it, just go ahead and follow them in. Maybe this will be a better time to sign our little petition, and we can make the point that way.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29645 "2016-06-16T19:42:21Z")

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[McCain directly blames the Orlando shooting on Obama.](http://www.mediaite.com/online/john-mccain-president-obama-is-directly-responsible-for-orlando-terror/)

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> Arizona Republican Senator John McCain harshly criticized President Barack Obama Thursday, telling reporters that he was “directly responsible” for Sunday’s terrorist attack on an Orlando gay club.
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> Reporters at the gaggle tweeted that McCain tied the reportedly ISIS-inspired attack to Obama’s failure to defeat the group in the Middle East.

Still won’t say what he would have done.  
Beyond saying the magic phrase over and over. Becoming increasingly frantic as it fails to destroy ISIS.

[And he backpedals.](https://twitter.com/SenJohnMcCain)

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> To clarify, I was referring to Pres Obama’s national security decisions that have led to rise of #ISIL, not to the President himself

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29646 "2016-06-16T19:48:09Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [McCain directly blames the Orlando shooting on Obama.](http://www.mediaite.com/online/john-mccain-president-obama-is-directly-responsible-for-orlando-terror/)  
> Still won’t say what he would have done.  
> Beyond saying the magic phrase over and over. Becoming increasingly frantic as it fails to destroy ISIS.
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> [And he backpedals.](https://twitter.com/SenJohnMcCain)

Perhaps he has forgotten what ‘directly’ means?

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29647 "2016-06-16T20:01:29Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> \<snip\>
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> > [@](#):
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> > To clarify, I was referring to Pres Obama’s national security decisions that have led to rise of #ISIL, not to the President himself.
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> [And he backpedals.](https://twitter.com/SenJohnMcCain)

He also seems to have forgotten that it was BUSH’S decision to go into Iraq in the first place, and that it was BUSH’S administration that negotiated the troop withdrawal from Iraq agreement. Both of which he agreed with, and both of which are inarguably proximate causes of the creation of ISIL.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29648 "2016-06-16T20:01:53Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> Perhaps he has forgotten what ‘directly’ means?

He’s simply throwing red meat to his idiotic, hard-right supporters. McCain’s not trying to move the debate in a constructive direction, nor does he intend to follow up his comments with anything substantial; it’s just a swipe at Obama because he can.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29649 "2016-06-16T20:32:54Z")

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In the latest attempt by Republicans to paint themselves as the _true_ defenders of LBGT Americans, Mo Brooks, congressman from Alabama, claims that the American Muslim community wants to “[kill every homosexual in the United States](https://www.buzzfeed.com/christophermassie/alabama-congressman-muslim-community-wants-to-kill-every-hom?utm_term=.qy9NDvM30#.is3zV0MLa)”.

Not only is he wrong, but, in fact, [American Muslims are more supportive of same-sex-marriage than Christian evangelicals, like Brooks, are.](http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/04/22/3649935/poll-american-muslims-supportive-sex-marriage-white-evangelical-christians/)

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29650 "2016-06-16T20:33:10Z")

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“Homosexuals ‘Worthy of Death’ Bible Verse Read Before Key Vote”  
[http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/bible-verse-homosexuals-heard-house-gop-prior-vote](http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/bible-verse-homosexuals-heard-house-gop-prior-vote)

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> House Republicans at a conference meeting heard a Bible verse that calls for death for homosexuals shortly before the chamber voted Thursday morning to reject a spending bill that included an amendment barring discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity.
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> Whether the freshman member who gave the prayer intended to condemn members of the LGBT community has left Republicans and Democrats deeply divided.  
> …  
> Georgia Rep. Rick W. Allen led the opening prayer by reading from Romans 1:18-32, and Revelations 22:18-19. An aide to Allen told CQ that Allen did not mention the upcoming vote on the Energy-Water spending bill or an amendment that would reinforce a presidential directive prohibiting federal contractors from discriminating against LGBT employees.

[Romans 1:18-32](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1%3A18-32&version=ESV)

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29651 "2016-06-16T20:38:38Z")

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Amazing how they never read the rest of Romans I as if it is actually talking to them.

Because its basically a huge diatribe about what shitbags we all are and how we need to stop being so judgmental of each other.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.  
29 \*\*They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,  
30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;  
31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. \*\*  
32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.  
Sounds like the Republicans to me.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29652 "2016-06-16T21:25:08Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> He’s simply throwing red meat to his idiotic, hard-right supporters. McCain’s not trying to move the debate in a constructive direction, nor does he intend to follow up his comments with anything substantial; it’s just a swipe at Obama because he can.

He’s running for re-election against a Tea Partyist to his right and a Democrat to his left, he has to tack to the right.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29653 "2016-06-16T21:27:53Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Amazing how they never read the rest of Romans I as if it is actually talking to them.

And heaven forbid they read all the way to chapter 14, which is about not judging other people who don’t believe in the same rules that you do.

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> 4 Who are you to pass judgment on servants of another? It is before their own lord that they stand or fall. […] 10 Why do you pass judgment on your brother or sister? Or you, why do you despise your brother or sister? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29654 "2016-06-16T22:32:02Z")

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Is that Romans One or Romans Eye? /DT

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29655 "2016-06-16T22:46:43Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> He also seems to have forgotten that it was BUSH’S decision to go into Iraq in the first place, and that it was BUSH’S administration that negotiated the troop withdrawal from Iraq agreement. Both of which he agreed with, and both of which are inarguably proximate causes of the creation of ISIL.

Actually, I think Saddam was doing a fine job of suppressing Daesh, but then somebody or another undertook to have Saddam undertaken.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29656 "2016-06-17T06:46:08Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [McCain directly blames the Orlando shooting on Obama.](http://www.mediaite.com/online/john-mccain-president-obama-is-directly-responsible-for-orlando-terror/)  
> Still won’t say what he would have done.  
> Beyond saying the magic phrase over and over. Becoming increasingly frantic as it fails to destroy ISIS.
> 
> [And he backpedals.](https://twitter.com/SenJohnMcCain)

To me, the worst part is the “#ISIS.”

Is he trying to get them trending on Twitter?

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29657 "2016-06-17T14:37:04Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> In the latest attempt by Republicans to paint themselves as the _true_ defenders of LBGT Americans, Mo Brooks, congressman from Alabama, claims that the American Muslim community wants to “[kill every homosexual in the United States](https://www.buzzfeed.com/christophermassie/alabama-congressman-muslim-community-wants-to-kill-every-hom?utm_term=.qy9NDvM30#.is3zV0MLa)”.
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> Not only is he wrong, but, in fact, [American Muslims are more supportive of same-sex-marriage than Christian evangelicals, like Brooks, are.](http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/04/22/3649935/poll-american-muslims-supportive-sex-marriage-white-evangelical-christians/)

I thought they stopped having prayers to open sessions. It’s unconstitutional, after all, and Republicans are _all about_ being constitutional, right?

Are they still including citations in bills to the part of the Constitution that supports it?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29658 "2016-06-18T14:28:37Z")

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[Florida AG Pam Bondi is miffed](http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/14/politics/pam-bondi-anderson-cooper-gay-rights-orlando/) that Anderson Cooper had the audacity to ask about her record on gay rights (not a good one) instead just of letting her posture about Orlando.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29659 "2016-06-19T06:20:29Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> [Florida AG Pam Bondi is miffed](http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/14/politics/pam-bondi-anderson-cooper-gay-rights-orlando/) that Anderson Cooper had the audacity to ask about her record on gay rights (not a good one) instead just of letting her posture about Orlando.

She’s lucky all he did was repeat his question instead of delving into how her “I was only following orders” defense was as chicken-shit as it was during [Nuremberg](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nuremberg_defense).

The fact is that [there is no law](http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-10-03/story/candidates-florida-attorney-general-have-differing-views-where-gay#) that mandates the Florida AG to defend a law and [many of her peers](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/07/09/utah-attorney-general-says-he-must-defend-his-states-gay-marriage-ban-some-of-his-counterparts-disagree/) have [balked at defending laws](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/state-officials-balk-at-defending-laws-they-deem-unconstitutional/2013/07/18/14cf86ce-ee2b-11e2-9008-61e94a7ea20d_story.html) they felt were unconstitutional.

And even if she felt the law was Constitutional, she was doing more than defending a law, she was appealing [Federal court rulings](http://www.advocate.com/politics/marriage-equality/2014/11/19/pam-bondi-working-overtime-stop-same-sex-marriages-florida) against the law. An AG could easily say “The federal courts ruled, let’s move on,” but not Pam.

And how about that defense! Even if her job was to defend those discriminatory laws tooth and nail to the final Supreme Court decision, she didn’t have to [say these things](http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/bondi-fumbles-on-gay-marriage/2182725) in court documents:

> [@](#):
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> Attorney General Pam Bondi’s office wrote: … _disrupting Florida’s existing marriage laws would impose significant public harm._
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> Which sure sounds like: Changing the law to allow gay marriage would hurt Florida.
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> And this eyebrow-raising passage: _Florida’s marriage laws … have a close, direct and rational relationship to society’s legitimate interest in increasing the likelihood that children will be born to and raised by the mothers and fathers who produced them in stable and enduring family units._
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> Which, once you untangle the legalese, seems to suggest it takes a man and a woman to make a stable family.

So yeah, Cooper and the LGBT community in Florida have every reason to question why she is suddenly claiming to be a friend to their community when she went to great lengths - practically none of them mandatory for her job description - to discriminate against them.

She can stick that fainting couch she apparently needed up her ass.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29660 "2016-06-19T07:02:12Z")

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Trump complains that the TSA isn’t doing its job. He’s correct, the TSA [isn’t even involved this time.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-helpful-republicans-help-him-193128437--election.html)

I don’t know why he bothers with security screenings at all. If more people were allowed to bring guns to his rallies, he’d be so much safer. Do I have that right?

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**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/29661 "2016-06-19T07:41:46Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> In the latest attempt by Republicans to paint themselves as the _true_ defenders of LBGT Americans, Mo Brooks, congressman from Alabama, claims that the American Muslim community wants to “[kill every homosexual in the United States](https://www.buzzfeed.com/christophermassie/alabama-congressman-muslim-community-wants-to-kill-every-hom?utm_term=.qy9NDvM30#.is3zV0MLa)”.
> 
> Not only is he wrong, but, in fact, [American Muslims are more supportive of same-sex-marriage than Christian evangelicals, like Brooks, are.](http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/04/22/3649935/poll-american-muslims-supportive-sex-marriage-white-evangelical-christians/)

I don’t see that the survey you cited says that at all.

Of all the religious groups reported in that survey, Muslims are the 2nd worst, with a strong majority still opposing marriage equality. Only the white evangelical protestants are worse.

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