# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30842 "2016-08-24T22:48:00Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> The guy in the article seems a little confused. He relates Obama’s alleged bad odor to the “Skull and Bones” society, which Obama didn’t join. But GW Bush did.

Yale, Harvard; same difference.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30843 "2016-08-24T23:04:04Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> The guy in the article seems a little confused. He relates Obama’s alleged bad odor to the “Skull and Bones” society, which Obama didn’t join. But GW Bush did.

Confused?

The voices of the modern Republican Party are genuinely mentally ill. This guy is not normal, but he has a very wide reach in Radio, and is a big, big part of the Republican party. People listen to him. He’s basically the crazy guy on the corner with the “world is ending” sign, but now, these guys are the core of the party.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30844 "2016-08-24T23:21:06Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Sorry for putting this here, but I wasn’t sure where else to ask.
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> I’ve seen on a conservative blog a NEW REPORT that casts MASSIVE DOUBT on the “born this way narrative” for gays — “SHOTS FIRED,” as the headline said.
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> I really don’t feel like reading it, especially not today. Does anyone know WTF these people are talking about, and how they’re almost undoubtedly twisting the logic like pretzels, or alternatively, how biased the source is?

This appears to be a report/blog that is ripe for abuse.

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> ([Conclusion – Sexuality and Gender](http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/conclusion-sexuality-and-gender))"]When the research touches on controversial themes, it is particularly important to be clear about precisely what science has and has not shown. For complex, complicated questions concerning the nature of human sexuality, there exists at best provisional scientific consensus; much remains unknown, as sexuality is an immensely complex part of human life that defies our attempts at defining all its aspects and studying them with precision.

If you read more of the conclusion, it becomes evident that McHugh’s intent is not to pander to the nutwing that want to “heal” the “perverts”. He is merely saying that “born that way” is too simplistic and has not been clearly established by scientific analysis.

More of the text reveals that McHugh does _seem_ to show genuine concern for LGBTs. Unfortunately, that concern may be eclipsed by _ **NEW REPORT! … MASSIVE DOUBT! … SHOTS FIRED!** _

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30845 "2016-08-24T23:35:44Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> This appears to be a report/blog that is ripe for abuse.  
> If you read more of the conclusion, it becomes evident that McHugh’s intent is not to pander to the nutwing that want to “heal” the “perverts”. He is merely saying that “born that way” is too simplistic and has not been clearly established by scientific analysis.
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> More of the text reveals that McHugh does _seem_ to show genuine concern for LGBTs. Unfortunately, that concern may be eclipsed by _ **NEW REPORT! … MASSIVE DOUBT! … SHOTS FIRED!** _

The New Atlantis is a publication of the Ethics and Public Policy Center, "[conservative Washington, D.C.-based think tank and advocacy group.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_and_Public_Policy_Center) "

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30846 "2016-08-24T23:38:13Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> If you read more of the conclusion, it becomes evident that McHugh’s intent is not to pander to the nutwing that want to “heal” the “perverts”. He is merely saying that “born that way” is too simplistic and has not been clearly established by scientific analysis.

Paul McHugh has a long-established history of [evidence-free claims about sexuality;](http://www.transadvocate.com/clinging-to-a-dangerous-past-dr-paul-mchughs-selective-reading-of-transgender-medical-literature_n_13842.htm)

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> McHugh, professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University, has been actively working against the medical treatment of trans people since the 1970’s. As the university’s chief psychiatrist, he was instrumental in closing the Johns Hopkins Gender Program in 1979, one of the first programs of its kind, citing the 1977 study by his Hopkins colleague Dr Jon Meyer, which claimed that surgical intervention did not improve the psychological functioning of the individuals treated. McHugh himself admits to directing Meyer to conduct to further his anti-trans agenda in a 2004 article titled “Surgical Sex”. In the same article, McHugh also continues to preach the largely discredited “autogynephilia” theory of Ray Blanchard and J. Michael Bailey. McHugh is also known for filing an amicus curiae brief in Hollingsworth v. Perry, asserting that homosexuality is a choice, as well as for his participation of the campaign against Kansas abortion provider Dr George Tiller– who was murdered in 2009 by a anti-abortion activist.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30847 "2016-08-25T01:19:34Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> The guy in the article seems a little confused. He relates Obama’s alleged bad odor to the “Skull and Bones” society, which Obama didn’t join. But GW Bush did.

Obama got his undergrad degree at Columbia, so he can’t be a member of Skull and Bones, which is a Yale secret society. Unless they started franchising it out and didn’t tell me?

(The Prez earned his law degree at Harvard, but the secret societies don’t “tap” law students. It’s an undergraduate thing. So he didn’t get into Porcellian, either)

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30848 "2016-08-25T01:35:48Z")

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There’s a _new_ Atlantis?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30849 "2016-08-25T01:40:24Z")

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[Governor Rick Scott Says it’s Safe to Visit Florida](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/governor-rick-scott-says-safe-214200773.html)

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> “We have great mosquito control boards. We have great health departments across our state. We have 43 cases in an entire state that takes 15 hours to get from one end to the other of 20.6 million people. We have 43 cases of local transmission,” Scott said during an interview on the FOX Business Network’s Cavuto: Coast-to-Coast.

Could be the Gov. is lying.

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> According to the Florida Department of Health, [there are 523 total cases not involving pregnant women and 70 cases involving pregnant women,](http://www.floridahealth.gov/diseases-and-conditions/zika-virus/) regardless of symptoms. The governor said his administration is taking the necessary precautions to ensure the safety of everyone in Florida.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30850 "2016-08-25T01:43:39Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> There’s a _new_ Atlantis?

You didn’t hear the news?

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30851 "2016-08-25T02:44:28Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Could be the Gov. is lying.

At the top of the by-county section is a note indicating that all cases are travel related; e.g., not local transmission.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30852 "2016-08-25T03:49:32Z")

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> [@](#):
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> According to the Florida Department of Health, there are 523 total cases not involving pregnant women and 70 cases involving pregnant women, regardless of symptoms. The governor said his administration is taking the necessary precautions to ensure the safety of everyone in Florida.

If 70 pregnant women are confirmed as having it, and 523 people other than pregnant woman are confirmed as having it, then there are probably over six thousand other people who have it but have not yet been diagnosed. (2.12% of women are preggers at any given time, 51% of people are women, ergo . . . )

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30853 "2016-08-25T05:49:59Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> There’s a _new_ Atlantis?

The old one burned down, fell over and sank in the ocean.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30854 "2016-08-25T05:53:59Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> There’s a _new_ Atlantis?

Someone inform Donovan at once!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30855 "2016-08-25T06:36:59Z")

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The old Atlantis is on display at Kennedy. Houston wanted it, but they said “no, you already got Columbia”.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30856 "2016-08-25T07:06:29Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> The old one burned down, fell over and sank in the ocean.

New Atlantis has a Queen with huge tracts of land.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30857 "2016-08-25T07:45:38Z")

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> New Atlantis has a Queen with huge tracts of land.

And mermaids. Because of all the Coca-Cola.

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**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30858 "2016-08-25T13:01:31Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Someone inform Donovan at once!

> [@Superdude](#):
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> And mermaids. Because of all the Coca-Cola.

The magician?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30859 "2016-08-25T13:34:22Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Could be the Gov. is lying.

> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> At the top of the by-county section is a note indicating that all cases are travel related; e.g., not local transmission.

Yeah, he does lie all the time, but this is not one of those times.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30860 "2016-08-25T22:28:42Z")

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[Republican Alabama mayor goes full racist after losing to her black opponent, claims her Facebook account was hacked.](http://www.dothaneagle.com/news/local/midland-city-mayor-denies-she-made-racially-charged-facebook-comment/article_e5d0f51c-6b0c-11e6-af36-77afbcac0113.html)

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**Author:** ![aliensshow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@aliensshow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aliensshow)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/30861 "2016-08-25T23:22:56Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Republican Alabama mayor goes full racist after losing to her black opponent, claims her Facebook account was hacked.](http://www.dothaneagle.com/news/local/midland-city-mayor-denies-she-made-racially-charged-facebook-comment/article_e5d0f51c-6b0c-11e6-af36-77afbcac0113.html)

Well she didn’t insist that blacks are too stupid to get photo IDs, so she didn’t go _full_ racist 🙂

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