# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31022 "2016-09-04T17:07:56Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Cause nothing says moral principles like ethics violations.

Hey, only the _first_ stone has to be cast by someone without sin. This is, like, the five-millionth stone.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31023 "2016-09-04T17:12:00Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Michele Bachmann: [‘This Is the Last Election’ if Hillary Clinton Wins, Because Jesus’](http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/michele_bachmann_this_is_the_last_election_if_hillary_clinton_wins_video)

Is anyone even pretending Trump is religious?

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31024 "2016-09-04T20:32:38Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Michele Bachmann: [‘This Is the Last Election’ if Hillary Clinton Wins, Because Jesus’](http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/michele_bachmann_this_is_the_last_election_if_hillary_clinton_wins_video)

> [@Michele Bachmann](#):
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> She’s for everything I’m against.

It’s hard to imagine a more ringing endorsement from a pro-Apocalypse nutcase. I never expected to be enthusiastic about voting for Hillary, but I’m getting closer every time Bachmann and her ilk open their mouths.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31025 "2016-09-05T02:41:54Z")

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[Scott Walker: Potential Employees Turn Down Jobs for Welfare Money](https://pjmedia.com/video/scott-walker-potential-employees-turn-down-jobs-for-welfare-money/)

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> In a speech at the Defending the American Dream Summit with Americans for Prosperity, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker told a story about employers looking for people to hire. These job creators were willing to offer welfare recipients a job, but those on the dole turned them down — because they made more money on welfare!

And he thinks it’s the people on welfare who are the problem. Maybe we who employ Gov. Walker and others like him should determine what his market value is.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31026 "2016-09-05T02:53:06Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Is anyone even pretending Trump is religious?

“I’m great at religious. I probably know more about religious than the popes. I got a call the kther day from a top guy, very big, very respected up there, he said Mr. Trump, you’re telling is stuff about religious that we didn’t even know.”

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31027 "2016-09-05T02:57:19Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Is anyone even pretending Trump is religious?

I hope my presidents pretend to be religious but really aren’t.

Do you want a religious president?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31028 "2016-09-05T03:14:42Z")

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If they can be religious, sincere, tolerant and not self-righteous, I’m cool with that.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31029 "2016-09-05T03:35:27Z")

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Religious _and_ grown-ups? Dang, son, that is democrat territory.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31030 "2016-09-05T15:38:56Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> I hope my presidents pretend to be religious but really aren’t.
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> Do you want a religious president?

I don’t. Hell, I’d prefer they don’t even pretend. But the religious right seems to think Trump is one of them.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31031 "2016-09-05T19:52:57Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> If they can be religious, sincere, tolerant and not self-righteous, I’m cool with that.

Jimmy Carter. He might not have been a very good president, but his religion had nothing to do with it.  
If you don’t give a shit about religion, either shut up or fake it well. Trump can’t do either, and most of the evangelicals are too stupid to realize the are being taken.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31032 "2016-09-05T20:07:00Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> I hope my presidents pretend to be religious but really aren’t.
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> Do you want a religious president?

This Stupid Liberal Idea that we want our politicians to lie, as long as we think we’re in on the deception and only the rubes are being fooled, really needs to be retired.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31033 "2016-09-05T20:16:51Z")

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Just as soon as it stops being true.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31034 "2016-09-05T20:17:36Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> This Stupid Liberal Idea that we want our politicians to lie, as long as we think we’re in on the deception and only the rubes are being fooled, really needs to be retired.

Better than actually believing in sky fairies.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31035 "2016-09-05T20:20:40Z")

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[More bubblethink, presented here for entertainment value:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19606956#post19606956)

> [@Hillary Clinton's Presidential Campaign Discussion](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/911):
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> Trump’s finally getting a little more disciplined and his summit with the Mexican President went shockingly well.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31036 "2016-09-05T20:28:46Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Better than actually believing in sky fairies.

No, lying is a lot worse than believing in irrational things. That’s the corollary to the previous Stupid Liberal Idea: better to be smart than to be moral.

One of these days a lot of your friends will die because you supported a self-interested liar over someone of real faith.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31037 "2016-09-05T20:31:53Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> That’s the corollary to the previous Stupid Liberal Idea: better to be smart than to be moral.

As Congressman Reed retorted to Henry Clay, “The gentleman need not worry. He will never be either.”

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31038 "2016-09-05T20:33:10Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> [More bubblethink, presented here for entertainment value:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19606956#post19606956)

In all fairness to **adaher** , Trump didn’t use the word “wetback” when addressing the Mexican President, which at this point might qualify as doing “shockingly well.”

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31039 "2016-09-05T20:37:52Z")

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You sure? That’s pretty much what “a frank and open exchange of views” _is_.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31040 "2016-09-05T20:46:15Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> You sure? That’s pretty much what “a frank and open exchange of views” _is_.

In diplomatic speak, a “frank and open exchange of views” means that the cleaners have to mop up the blood in the morning.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31041 "2016-09-05T21:17:23Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> No, lying is a lot worse than believing in irrational things. That’s the corollary to the previous Stupid Liberal Idea: better to be smart than to be moral.
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> One of these days a lot of your friends will die because you supported a self-interested liar over someone of real faith.

No, because lies about religion, or sex, don’t matter. Lies about racism, or knowing more than the generals, or about a million other things are way more important.

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