# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31122 "2016-09-10T07:36:43Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> [Louie Gohmert says Hillary Clinton is mentally impaired.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/louie-gohmert-hillary-clinton_us_57d2cc22e4b03d2d4599fc74?section=)

Well, he WOULD know about mental impairments…

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31123 "2016-09-10T10:52:37Z")

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> [@MacCat](#):
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> It’s OK though, “When I go to church and when I drink my little wine and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of forgiveness.”

Holy CRAP, is that really something that he said out loud?

PLEEEEEEEAAASE link to it!

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**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31124 "2016-09-10T11:22:24Z")

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> **[Donald Trump: 'I'm Not Sure If I Ever Asked God's Forgiveness'](https://www.christianpost.com/news/donald-trump-im-not-sure-if-i-ever-asked-gods-forgiveness-141706/)**
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> At the Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa on Saturday, Donald Trump says he s not sure if he s asked God for forgiveness, while slamming Senator John McCain and President Barack Obama

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> Donald Trump says he’s not sure if he’s asked God for forgiveness, at the Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa on Saturday, which led some to question the sincerity of his alleged Christian faith.
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> Moderator Frank Luntz asked Trump on Saturday if he had ever sought God’s forgiveness and Trump replied, “I’m not sure I have ever asked God’s forgiveness. I don’t bring God into that picture.”
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> Trump clarified further about forgiveness in the church setting saying, “When I go to church and when I drink my little wine and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of forgiveness. I do that as often as I can because I feel cleansed. I say let’s go on and let’s make it right,” declared Trump.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31125 "2016-09-10T12:07:24Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Holy CRAP, is that really something that he said out loud?
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> PLEEEEEEEAAASE link to it!

Only the video does it justice (at about 2:25):

> **[Trump: Drink my little wine, have my little cracker | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/08/13/donald-trump-religion-serfaty-dnt-erin.cnn)**
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> Some conservatives doubt Republican candidate Donald Trump can win over evangelicals. CNN’s Sunlen Serfaty reports.

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**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31126 "2016-09-10T12:23:47Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Well, he WOULD know about mental impairments…

That was also my immediate thought, but then with his degree of impairment I had to consider he has zero knowledge of the condition.

America’s Dumbest Congressman, for him is not particularly insulting.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31127 "2016-09-10T13:40:30Z")

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I’ve been rereading The Dead Zone and I know I’m not the first to think that Trump’s campaign makes the book much scarier.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31128 "2016-09-10T15:32:15Z")

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Huh. Didn’t know Larry King was working for RT. I’ll read the occasional article on RT if it’s about fluffy bunnies or something, but wouldn’t take much else they say seriously.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31129 "2016-09-10T15:45:23Z")

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Last night, [Hillary Clinton had a fundraiser where she said:

> [@Hillary Clinton](#):
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> To just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic - you name it.
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> And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people - now how 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks - they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America.

]([http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_CAMPAIGN\_2016\_BAOL-?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-09-10-11-05-11](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CAMPAIGN_2016_BAOL-?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-09-10-11-05-11))  
Mr. Trump read about this or heard about this and later remarked on Twitter:

> [@Donald Trump](#):
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> Wow, Hillary Clinton was SO INSULTING to my supporters, millions of amazing, hard working people. I think it will cost her at the Polls!

:dubious:

Who exactly does Mr. Trump think this will turn away from Mrs. Clinton?

I don’t think he understands how this whole voting thing works.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31130 "2016-09-10T16:00:02Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Who exactly does Mr. Trump think this will turn away from Mrs. Clinton?
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> I don’t think he understands how this whole voting thing works.

Well, Washington Post is wondering if this could be a Romney 47% gaff. If 40% of Americans are leaning towards Trump, she just insulted a lot of people who aren’t racists hanging out on hate websites.

I assume 40% of Americans don’t hang out on hate sites.

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/10/republicans-think-hillary-clinton-just-made-her-own-47-percent-gaffe-did-she/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/10/republicans-think-hillary-clinton-just-made-her-own-47-percent-gaffe-did-she/)

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31131 "2016-09-10T16:15:04Z")

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She said _half_ of his supporters.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31132 "2016-09-10T16:21:06Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> She said _half_ of his supporters.

What’s the other half’s excuse?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31133 "2016-09-10T16:24:48Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Well, Washington Post is wondering if this could be a Romney 47% gaff. If 40% of Americans are leaning towards Trump, she just insulted a lot of people who aren’t racists hanging out on hate websites.
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> I assume 40% of Americans don’t hang out on hate sites.
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> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/10/republicans-think-hillary-clinton-just-made-her-own-47-percent-gaffe-did-she/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/10/republicans-think-hillary-clinton-just-made-her-own-47-percent-gaffe-did-she/)

> [@Procrustus](#):
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> She said _half_ of his supporters.

See that’s the difference: Mr. Romney insulted nearly half of the population of the country, while Mrs. Clinton’s comment only calls out half of the people who support Mr. Trump.

I’m curious why that wasn’t clear to you already, tho, **levdrakon**.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31134 "2016-09-10T16:32:02Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I’m curious why that wasn’t clear to you already, tho, **levdrakon**.

I’m already a Clinton supporter which makes me biased in her favor. I don’t feel insulted. But, I think Clinton should be careful about how many other Americans she insults. Making it us vs. them, and the cool kids vs. the losers doesn’t seem the healthiest way to win. Don’t vote for Trump or you’re a racist loser. How about trying to win over more Americans instead of writing them off and making fun of them.

Liberals have become rather elitist and smug. That’s not the liberal I want to be.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31135 "2016-09-10T16:37:10Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> I’m already a Clinton supporter which makes me biased in her favor. I don’t feel insulted. But, I think Clinton should be careful about how many other Americans she insults. Making it us vs. them, and the cool kids vs. the losers doesn’t seem the healthiest way to win. Don’t vote for Trump or you’re a racist loser. How about trying to win over more Americans instead of writing them off and making fun of them.
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> Liberals have become rather elitist and smug. That’s not the liberal I want to be.

I understand what you’re saying but I think you’re way off-base with how the general public will react to this because I think you’re reacting to what you think she said rather than what she said.

The people she called out are never going to vote for Mrs. Clinton and are already engaged in “us vs. them” behaviours. She isn’t trying to win over those voters because they cannot be swayed. Her comments don’t write off anyone not already written off. And she didn’t make fun of people or ridicule anyone; not sure where that comment of yours came from TBH.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31136 "2016-09-10T16:50:14Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> The people she called out are never going to vote for Mrs. Clinton and are already engaged in “us vs. them” behaviours. She isn’t trying to win over those voters because they cannot be swayed. Her comments don’t write off anyone not already written off. And she didn’t make fun of people or ridicule anyone; not sure where that comment of yours came from TBH.

The actual people she’s talking about, the racists, sexists, etc., weren’t going to be swayed. But how many people will think she’s talking about them and take offense?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31137 "2016-09-10T17:20:42Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> What’s the other half’s excuse?

That they’re motivated by fear, not hate.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31138 "2016-09-10T17:57:28Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> The actual people she’s talking about, the racists, sexists, etc., weren’t going to be swayed. But how many people will think she’s talking about them and take offense?

Who gives a shit if Trump supporters take offense at her comments? Let them stop hanging out with racists, sexists, etc. if they don’t want to feel tarred by the same brush.

Or do you think someone who supports Mr. Trump but isn’t racist or sexist is more likely to say “well fuck her; I’ll show them! I’m sticking with the racists!”? :dubious:

Do you think anyone who doesn’t support Mr. Trump is now more likely to do so because they will want to be known as someone who supports racism, sexism, etc.? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31139 "2016-09-10T18:14:53Z")

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I’m really tired of Democrats and supporters being all worried about insulting the extreme right. Too goddamned weak and apologetic. No wonder the right scorns them.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31140 "2016-09-10T18:15:52Z")

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I’m with ya there, **Chimera**.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31141 "2016-09-10T18:23:35Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> The actual people she’s talking about, the racists, sexists, etc., weren’t going to be swayed. But how many people will think she’s talking about them and take offense?

As I pointed in another thread, not talking about what is happening with the Republican party is playing in what the xenophobes, bigots and racists want to do. Normalizing them and their ideas into the political mainstream.

That is IMHO what Romney was talking about when he commented that Trump was going to make “Trickle down racism” a thing in America.

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