# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31142 "2016-09-10T18:25:20Z")

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Fear Itself wrote: [Louie Gohmert Says Hillary Clinton Is 'Mentally Impaired' And Has 'Special Needs' | HuffPost Latest News](http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_147353192261610&key=ce270d38103a630c3181db372a25a052&libId=isxit47v010004p6000DAc4dyo0uf&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fboards.straightdope.com%2Fsdmb%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D511831%26page%3D623&v=1&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fentry%2Flouie-gohmert-hillary-clinton_us_57d2cc22e4b03d2d4599fc74%3Fsection%3D&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fboards.straightdope.com%2Fsdmb%2Fforumdisplay.php%3Fs%3D%26daysprune%3D10%26f%3D5&title=Stupid%20Republican%20idea%20of%20the%20day%20-%20Page%20623%20-%20Straight%20Dope%20Message%20Board&txt=Louie%20Gohmert%20says%20Hillary%20Clinton%20is%20mentally%20impaired).

The irony, it burns.

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31143 "2016-09-10T18:25:22Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> I’m really tired of Democrats and supporters being all worried about insulting the extreme right. Too goddamned weak and apologetic. No wonder the right scorns them.

Yup.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31144 "2016-09-10T18:27:46Z")

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The last thing we need to worry about is insulting and calling out blatant racists. I’m not really sure who some of you think we’d be driving away.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31145 "2016-09-10T18:40:32Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> I’m really tired of Democrats and supporters being all worried about insulting the extreme right.

I’m good with not insulting them (though, ‘what’s good for the goose’…), but too many people extend that to ignoring the actual shit they say because everybody knows being a bigot is a bad thing, so calling people on their bigotry is therefor an insult, therefor it should never be done, because that’s MEAN. Which is bullshit.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31146 "2016-09-10T20:05:00Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Liberals have become rather elitist and smug. That’s not the liberal I want to be.

But, this is America. We’re ALL smug.

The Left is donating to NPR but still saving up to buy a Toyota Pious, and reading Actual Hardcover Books, and the Right is smug 'cause they’re listening to Country _and_ Western in their rusty pickup trucks, and don’t need no Actual Hardcover Books to tell 'em what’s what 'cause that’s just common sense, amiright?

Damn, I’m smug on both sides of my family…

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31147 "2016-09-10T20:17:41Z")

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OK, but at least they’re ashamed of you for different reasons! Always look on the blight side of life!

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31148 "2016-09-10T20:23:32Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> I’m really tired of Democrats and supporters being all worried about insulting the extreme right. Too goddamned weak and apologetic. No wonder the right scorns them.

The right hates the left because the left doesn’t insult them enough? Really?

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31149 "2016-09-10T21:45:23Z")

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The issue isn’t about getting racist Trump voters, it’s that she will be the president of those people too if she wins.

Am undecided voter might wonder, I have Trump supporters as friends and family. She thinks that way about my friends and family?

It’s a gaffe. One that compares to Obama’s “they cling to religion and guns” gaffe. Minimizing it won’t change that.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31150 "2016-09-10T21:46:18Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> The people she called out are never going to vote for Mrs. Clinton and are already engaged in “us vs. them” behaviours. She isn’t trying to win over those voters because they cannot be swayed. Her comments don’t write off anyone not already written off. And she didn’t make fun of people or ridicule anyone; not sure where that comment of yours came from TBH.

Update to the article I posted

[QUOTE=Washington Post]  
Update: Clinton has expressed “regret” for using the word “half.” See her statement at the bottom of this post.  
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She regrets the percentage, but not the language. Well, if people who disagree with her are racists and stuff, I guess that’s one way to play the race.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31151 "2016-09-10T21:52:13Z")

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“Half those guys are 90% mental.”

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31152 "2016-09-10T22:12:22Z")

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> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> The issue isn’t about getting racist Trump voters, it’s that she will be the president of those people too if she wins.
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> Am undecided voter might wonder, I have Trump supporters as friends and family. She thinks that way about my friends and family?
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> It’s a gaffe. One that compares to Obama’s “they cling to religion and guns” gaffe. Minimizing it won’t change that.

Your first sentence is insightful. I agree that the issue you raise is valid, but every President serves on behalf of people who do not like them or at least did not vote for them.

Your 2nd & 3rd sentences are a wash, IMO. Are you suggesting that people don’t know which of their friends and family are racists, sexists, etc.? Are you suggesting that people will think Hillary was talking about people who support Mr. Trump but who are not racists, sexists, etc.? Exactly what segment of the non-racist, non-sexist voting demographic do you think will actually vote for Mr. Trump instead of Hillary because she called out racist, sexist, etc. Trump supporters as being racist, sexist, etc.?

Your last sentence tries to draw a parallel or make a comparison where there really is none, IMO. I don’t think you could parse out your own comparison to make the two comments line up as similar except that they were both about specific groups of people and were not exactly complimentary. But the groups and the perception of the comments by people outside that group are wildly different in both cases IMO.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31153 "2016-09-10T22:31:53Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> The right hates the left because the left doesn’t insult them enough? Really?

scorn not = hate

It’s the whole ‘apology’ thing. We hear from the right all the time how the left is always apologizing for America and everything. Then we have people on the left apologizing or really wringing their hands about the idea of calling racists racists, because it might upset them.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31154 "2016-09-11T01:14:50Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Your first sentence is insightful. I agree that the issue you raise is valid, but every President serves on behalf of people who do not like them or at least did not vote for them.
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> Your 2nd & 3rd sentences are a wash, IMO. Are you suggesting that people don’t know which of their friends and family are racists, sexists, etc.? Are you suggesting that people will think Hillary was talking about people who support Mr. Trump but who are not racists, sexists, etc.? Exactly what segment of the non-racist, non-sexist voting demographic do you think will actually vote for Mr. Trump instead of Hillary because she called out racist, sexist, etc. Trump supporters as being racist, sexist, etc.?
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> Your last sentence tries to draw a parallel or make a comparison where there really is none, IMO. I don’t think you could parse out your own comparison to make the two comments line up as similar except that they were both about specific groups of people and were not exactly complimentary. But the groups and the perception of the comments by people outside that group are wildly different in both cases IMO.

What are you talking about? Election strategy aside it’s not statesmenlike to insult your countrymen.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31155 "2016-09-11T01:44:15Z")

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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> What are you talking about? Election strategy aside it’s not statesmenlike to insult your countrymen.

Sure it is, if you can accuse them of being unpatriotic.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31156 "2016-09-11T02:17:45Z")

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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> What are you talking about? Election strategy aside it’s not statesmenlike to insult your countrymen.

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Sure it is, if you can accuse them of being unpatriotic.

Or, like Trump has been doing in this election, accusing even immigrants that are citizens of being criminals.

As for insulting your countrymen, Trump did not even limit his insults to just 1/2 of his opponents in the primaries.

> **[‘How stupid are the people of Iowa?’ Trump asks, blasting Carson - The Boston...](https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/11/13/how-stupid-are-people-iowa-trump-asks-while-blasting-carson/o3RJKigUQyqzjU9U8skVuO/story.html)**

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> FORT DODGE, Iowa — Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, brushing aside any recent claims of civility, has equated Ben Carson’s childhood ‘‘pathological temper’’ to the illness of a child molester, questioned his religious awakening and berated voters who support him.
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> ‘‘How stupid are the people of Iowa?’’ declared Trump during a rally at Iowa Central Community College. **‘‘How stupid are the people of the country to believe this crap?’’** For more than an hour and a half Thursday night, the billionaire real estate mogul harshly criticized not only Carson, but many of his other competitors in the race for the GOP presidential nomination.

Oh yeah, for a few days it looked as if Carson was getting close to 1/2 of the Republican support in the polls. So the media that is not reminding this to their viewers and readers can respectfully bite me.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31157 "2016-09-11T04:57:43Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Or, like Trump has been doing in this election, accusing even immigrants that are citizens of being criminals.
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> As for insulting your countrymen, Trump did not even limit his insults to just 1/2 of his opponents in the primaries.
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> [https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/11/13/how-stupid-are-people-iowa-trump-asks-while-blasting-carson/o3RJKigUQyqzjU9U8skVuO/story.html](https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/11/13/how-stupid-are-people-iowa-trump-asks-while-blasting-carson/o3RJKigUQyqzjU9U8skVuO/story.html)  
> Oh yeah, for a few days it looked as if Carson was getting close to 1/2 of the Republican support in the polls. So the media that is not reminding this to their viewers and readers can respectfully bite me.

Trump is terrible, the majority of the nation and the world agree. It’s best for the nation if he stays the only terrible candidate. Hillary is a smart and accomplished politician, she should have known better. If one political party is a petulant child, it helps no one to become a petulant child yourself. Those who think it shows some kind of liberal weak-kneed cowardice to criticize your candidate for speaking down to citizens you don’t agree with are already buying into the bombastic bully world view the GOP is selling as fact. There is no way to win that game in my opinion.

Obama’s response to Duterte calling him a son of a bitch, that is how a statesman responds. Don’t bluster, don’t reciprocate, just simply leave the other looking like a fool who missed an opportunity.

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**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31158 "2016-09-12T14:00:52Z")

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Chimera, that is the generalization about Republicans I was talking about last week. To say half of them are a medley of all things bad and that the other half are just as bad by association.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31159 "2016-09-12T14:35:56Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> But how many people will think she’s talking about them and take offense?

I am reminded of a Soviet-era joke about a writer arrested for subversion who offered the defense that his satirical barbs were actually directed at American capitalists. The judge sneeringly dismissed this argument: “You constantly refer to ‘frauds’ and ‘thieves’ and ‘murderers’ and ‘tyrants’. This Court knows exactly whom you are attacking!”

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31160 "2016-09-12T14:43:04Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Chimera, that is the generalization about Republicans I was talking about last week. To say half of them are a medley of all things bad and that the other half are just as bad by association.

Yes, it is despicably horrible and unamerican of Democrats to call out the Republicans for the way the racists are running the party under Trump. :rolleyes:

Gosh, next thing you know we’ll be quietly suggesting, not asking mind you, but merely suggesting that they not speak so ill of us in return. If it isn’t too much trouble.

Fuck the Tone Police who don’t mind the foulness coming from the Republicans, but want to wag their fingers at the Dems.

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**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31161 "2016-09-12T15:15:03Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> I’d like an example of someone who has been called any given one of those words and has not stated things demonstrating that they are those things. Hell, since I’m giving you a rather large number of words to use, I want three examples before we start whining about “everyone” being called all of those words, which is a bit of hyperbole.

Seriously? I might as well talk to a brick wall. So, you say no that does not happen. Oh, it does. Well sarcasm and a dash of ignorance works to clear that up.

I said both sides do it. I said both sides should not. My point was I said that I felt that repubs got broad brushed. You said no that does not happen.

So wtf?

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