# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3141 "2011-06-30T00:35:41Z")

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[Knock yourself out.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=605448)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3142 "2011-06-30T00:51:22Z")

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> [@boytyperanma](#):
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> Once again A Republican ignores intellectual property rights for their own benifit.
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> [Tom Petty To Michele Bachmann: Stop Playing 'American Girl' | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/28/tom-petty-michele-bachmann_n_886384.html#s299605&title=Tom_Petty_vs)
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> If you’re going to pretend your all about personal responsibility and property rights don’t you think you should at least ask if you can use other peoples stuff?

She’s not ignoring intellectual property rights. Her campaign has paid the ASCAP or publisher’s fee.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3143 "2011-06-30T00:53:40Z")

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This is why we need to draft laws addressing the issue of Gross Uncoolness.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3144 "2011-06-30T00:56:37Z")

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The maximum penalty is appearing in a denture fixative commercial.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3145 "2011-06-30T01:53:13Z")

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So Tom’s teeth are naturally awesome, and any pretender’s teeth are not? I can work with that.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3146 "2011-07-02T01:22:22Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Well, Obama IS still black. So there’s always that.

Not according to [Herman Cain he isn’t](http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/06/herman-cain-barack-obama-black-man-/1?csp=34news).

Note: Just to clarify things, Herman Cain is the African-American running for President of the United States who _didn’t_ order the killing of Osama bin Laden.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3147 "2011-07-02T01:28:43Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> She’s not ignoring intellectual property rights. Her campaign has paid the ASCAP or publisher’s fee.

Different issue. ASCAP covers a band playing the song in a venue. Using an existing recording as a theme song is in the area of “synchronization rights”. Let her find a Ted Nugent song that will work - he won’t mind. I would suggest _Little Miss Dangerous_.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3148 "2011-07-02T03:58:15Z")

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I was thinking\* Bat Shit Fever\*!

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3149 "2011-07-03T15:39:42Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I was thinking\* Bat Shit Fever\*!

I was looking for real Nugent song titles, but his stuff is so misogynistic that few women would want to be associated with them.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3150 "2011-07-03T23:27:17Z")

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_Wang Dang Sweet Poontang_? It is about the only advantage she brings to the primary.

_Stormtroopin’_?

_I love you so I told you a lie_?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3151 "2011-07-04T00:02:03Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> Different issue. ASCAP covers a band playing the song in a venue.

She’s not using it as a theme song. Her campaign played it once, as far as anyone knows. I’d go with Bound and Gagged, though.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3152 "2011-07-07T16:19:19Z")

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> **[On Heels Of Worker Benefits Deal, Gov. Christie Uses Line-Item Veto To Cut...](https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/nj-democrats-ponder-response-to-gov-christies-budget-cuts/)**
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> In New Jersey, Governor Chris Christie used his power to line-item veto a budget handed to him by Democrats. The governor said he's keeping his promise to not raise taxes.

So New Jersey Governor Chris Christie went after unions like a dozen other states across the nation have done in the past few months. NJ had the D votes to stop the measure but a number of state Senators went along with Christie and against their party. They made a separate agreement with Christie to fund a number of social programs in next year’s budget and gave up their vote.  
The bill passed, then Christie took it and used his line item veto power to specifically cut out all the programs (and then some) that had been brokered in the deal. So Unions get stripped and social programs get cut and the Democrats got played. Shrewd political move, eh?

There’s more than enough stupid to go around here. First, to the Democrats who went against the best interest of their party and their constituents. Have they no news in New Jersey? Did they not see what’s going on in states across the country? But this isn’t a thread about Democrats.

The stupid is on behalf of the Governor. Never in my life have I seen someone so blatantly, brazenly, openly renegged on a promise as happened here. Had Christie literally slapped the Democrats in the face, it wouldn’t have been far different from what really occurred. So the question is, is this the hill Christie wants to die on? He’s declared war on the state senate and openly admitted his word cannot be trusted on anything ever again.

I just…I don’t know. Half of me wants to applaud his sheer chutzpah. And half of me wants to do what the Senate leader threatened and punch him in the face.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3153 "2011-07-07T16:57:05Z")

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**Enderw24** , i’m not saying that it didn’t happen, but the story that you linked to does not support the allegations in your post. The allegations in your first two paragraphs, about Dems brokering a deal and then Christie going back on it, are not discussed in the article. You got a link with more information?

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3154 "2011-07-07T17:26:43Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> **Enderw24** , i’m not saying that it didn’t happen, but the story that you linked to does not support the allegations in your post. The allegations in your first two paragraphs, about Dems brokering a deal and then Christie going back on it, are not discussed in the article. You got a link with more information?

Sorry about that. I had heard it from another source and just went to go find a story to link to.

> **[The Bold & Courageous: Christie/Sweeney budget kneecaps NJ Unions, line...](https://luimbe.com/blog/2011/07/04/the-bold-courageous-christiesweeney-budget-kneecaps-nj-unions-line-item-veto-takes-care-of-the-rest/)**
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> In June 2011, NJ Senate President Stephen Sweeney crafted a budget that blew up collective bargaining for NJ’s public unions and required the Dems to be responsible for millions in state spending cuts. The Democrats would also rely on up to $300...

That gives a nice summation of the entire ordeal. The other two links are more about Sweeney’s reaction to what happened:

[http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/05/chris-christies-love-hate-relationship/](http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/05/chris-christies-love-hate-relationship/)

> **[NJ Politician On Chris Christie: 'I Want To Punch Him In His Head'](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chris-christie-punch_n_889565)**
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> NJ Politician On Chris Christie: 'I Want To Punch Him In His Head'

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3155 "2011-07-08T00:56:30Z")

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Sen. Orrin Hatch says [the poor need to “share some of the responsibility”](http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/07/dems-go-after-hatch-for-saying-poor-need-to-do-more-to-shrink-the-debt.php?ref=dcblt) for shrinking the debt:

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> “The top 10 percent are paying 70 percent of all income taxes. The top 50 percent pay something like 98 percent of all income taxes. Fifty-one percent don’t pay anything,” Hatch said.
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> “Democrats say they [the 51 percent] pay payroll taxes. Well, everybody does that because that’s Social Security.”
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> “All I can say is that we have got to get with it around here and we’ve got to start working together as Democrats and Republicans in the best interests of the American people and that is reforming this awful tax code – getting taxes down for everybody to have some skin in the game except the really poor and help our country to pull out of the mess that we’re in,” Hatch said.

Whenever they use that “skin in the game” talking point, you know they are going after they very bottom of the economic ladder.

And that offhand remark about ‘everybody pays Social Security’; I’d like to know what percent of his annual income Hatch pays toward SS, versus the percentage paid by workers in the bottom 51% of households.

These guys are just mad because they found out somebody who is not them still has some money.

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3156 "2011-07-08T01:41:48Z")

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So there is a tax increase that can get Republican support. What would Grover Norquist say?

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3157 "2011-07-08T02:52:01Z")

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> **[Buffett: GOP Threatening To 'Blow Your Brains Out' Over Debt Ceiling](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/warren-buffett-debt-ceiling_n_892332)**
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> Buffett: GOP Threatening To 'Blow Your Brains Out' Over Debt Ceiling

As Buffet says, the Repubs raised the debt ceiling 7 times when Bush was in. Now they suddenly developed a financial conscience when Obama is in. They are liars and hypocrites.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3158 "2011-07-08T09:03:36Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Sen. Orrin Hatch says
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> > [@](#):
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> > “The top 10 percent are paying 70 percent of all income taxes…”

I wonder what percentage of all income the top 10 percent earn?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3159 "2011-07-08T13:32:25Z")

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Can’t they just repeal the budget?

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**Author:** ![G-SE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f0a364/32.png) [@G-SE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G-SE)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3160 "2011-07-08T14:30:36Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> [Buffett: GOP Threatening To 'Blow Your Brains Out' Over Debt Ceiling | HuffPost Impact](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/07/warren-buffett-debt-ceiling_n_892332.html)  
> As Buffet says, the Repubs raised the debt ceiling 7 times when Bush was in. Now they suddenly developed a financial conscience when Obama is in. They are liars and hypocrites.

Yes, they raised it 7 times over 8 years.

Maybe they are a bit concerned about raising it for the 4th time in 2.5 years now?

On a side note, why did the Democrats vote almost unanimously against it in 2006? Why did Obama state in 2006:

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> The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

I think you may be a bit confused who the hypocrites and liars are.

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