# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31842 "2016-11-10T16:22:37Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Democrats did pave the way for Trump, but in this case I’m talking about the midterm defeats that preceded it. Wave elections don’t just happen and Democrats suffered two of them.

Bwaa?? This is in no way a wave election. Trump squeaked out a win without winning the popular vote, and Republicans lost seats in the House and Senate. To call this a wave election is to cheapen the term to mean any win in a presidential election. Next you will be telling me Trump won a mandate.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31843 "2016-11-10T19:53:01Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> This is a time for humility, not hubris.

I think y’all picked the wrong guy for that, then.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31844 "2016-11-10T19:56:50Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> I think y’all picked the wrong guy for that, then.

Surely you’re joking! Donald J. Trump is far more humble than ordinary people can understand. Just ask him.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31845 "2016-11-10T20:28:49Z")

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If there was a “Most Humble” tournament…  
Trump would produce it, judge it and demand a swimsuit competition.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31846 "2016-11-13T22:24:40Z")

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[Paul Ryan says the racist attacks occurring around the country are not being done by Republicans, and he’s sure Trump would repudiate them.](http://newcenturytimes.com/2016/11/13/cnn-host-stunned-by-what-paul-ryan-just-said-about-post-election-racist-attacks-video/)

So, Der Donald, any comment?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31847 "2016-11-14T20:37:59Z")

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[The director of a publicly-funded West Virginia development agency called Michelle Obama “an ape in heels”, and the local Mayor approved her posting](http://addictinginfo.org/2016/11/14/wv-public-officials-call-michelle-obama-an-ape-in-heels-call-outrage-against-them-a-hate-crime/). But they’re not being racist.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31848 "2016-11-14T20:49:51Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Paul Ryan says the racist attacks occurring around the country are not being done by Republicans, and he’s sure Trump would repudiate them.](http://newcenturytimes.com/2016/11/13/cnn-host-stunned-by-what-paul-ryan-just-said-about-post-election-racist-attacks-video/)
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> So, Der Donald, any comment?

As part of making liberals and Democrats better, I think we need to stay away from click-baity hyperbolic “truthy” (rather than “facty”) articles like this one. Yes, Ryan was being political in trying to dissociate racist assholes from the Republican party, and he was probably being disingenuous to some degree in pretending that there’s absolutely nothing to claims of association between racism and conservatism/Republicans. But he also said “People who espouse those views, they’re not Republicans. We don’t want them in our party even if they’re thinking about it.” That’s actually a good thing that we should want Republicans to say more often.

IMO, articles like that are part of the bubble and don’t help liberals and Democrats make progress and have success politically. I urge Dopers to be more circumspect and have higher standards when it comes to claims from liberal strongholds on the internet – I don’t think this one meets the standard.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31849 "2016-11-14T20:53:48Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> As part of making liberals and Democrats better, I think we need to stay away from click-baity hyperbolic “truthy” (rather than “facty”) articles like this one. Yes, Ryan was being political in trying to dissociate racist assholes from the Republican party, and he was probably being disingenuous to some degree in pretending that there’s absolutely nothing to claims of association between racism and conservatism/Republicans. But he also said “People who espouse those views, they’re not Republicans. We don’t want them in our party even if they’re thinking about it.” That’s actually a good thing that we should want Republicans to say more often.
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> IMO, articles like that are part of the bubble and don’t help liberals and Democrats make progress and have success politically. I urge Dopers to be more circumspect and have higher standards when it comes to claims from liberal strongholds on the internet – I don’t think this one meets the standard.

Are you saying this is a lie? Are we supposed to sweep all of this bullshit under the rug?

How about this bullshit, should we ignore it, too?

[Sean Hannity wants CNN, the New York Times and the Washington Post banned from the White House.](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/14/1599035/-Sean-Hannity-promotes-the-idea-of-banning-the-New-York-Times-Washington-Post-from-the-White-House?detail=facebook)

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31850 "2016-11-14T20:55:27Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Are you saying this is a lie? Are we supposed to sweep all of this bullshit under the rug?
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> How about this bullshit, should we ignore it, too?
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> [Sean Hannity wants CNN, the New York Times and the Washington Post banned from the White House.](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/14/1599035/-Sean-Hannity-promotes-the-idea-of-banning-the-New-York-Times-Washington-Post-from-the-White-House?detail=facebook)

No, I’m criticizing that specific article, not all the others you’ve posted.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31851 "2016-11-14T21:06:40Z")

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I think we’ll all agree that there is a conservative infotainment sphere that has ill-served serious conservatives and Republicans (and the country at large) for years – this includes Breitbart, Infowars, Hannity, and much more.

There are equivalents on the left, even if they’re much smaller and less influential than Breitbart and Hannity. But we still shouldn’t trust or rely on them, and we should call them out when they’re utilized – I think New Century Times is a click-baity aggregator (notice heavy use of ALL CAPS and words like STUNNING and EVERYTHING WE HOPED FOR in headlines on their homepage), and thus pretty much useless when trying to suss out fact from fiction.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31852 "2016-11-14T21:09:00Z")

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Other people can ignore all caps headlines and loaded words and just watch the video that is embedded, but for some, I guess that’s too much work.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31853 "2016-11-14T21:16:23Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Other people can ignore all caps headlines and loaded words and just watch the video that is embedded, but for some, I guess that’s too much work.

Fair enough. But conservatives could say the same thing if they use a Breitbart link.

I think they should use better sources, and so should we.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31854 "2016-11-14T21:25:08Z")

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I saw a headline that said Newty said the new administration was going to ignore reason, but down the article, his quote (something about not being reasonable) did not match up with the headline. If he _had_ literally said that, I certainly would have posted the story. We all make mistakes. It is better to explore the sources than to just slap up Kos and Rawstory articles without looking into them, for the sake of this thread remaining valid and useful.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31855 "2016-11-14T23:14:08Z")

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Another amusing example of Tard “journalism.”

[Der, it was a landslide](http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/11/12/electoral-college-landslide-donald-trump-pummels-clinton-306232-n2243962)

I wonder if this putz, Matt Vespa, knows that Obama got more EC votes both times. Somehow I just can’t envision his “Obama Landslide” articles. Fucking moron.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31856 "2016-11-15T00:35:06Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Other people can ignore all caps headlines and loaded words and just watch the video that is embedded, but for some, I guess that’s too much work.

You know what would be great? It would be great if you could stick to actual news sites. Then when they had videos, why, they’d actually be at the primary sources of the videos! AMAZING!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31857 "2016-11-17T16:23:05Z")

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Just an idea, but it has a lot of potential for some serious stupid.

> [@"\[Moonie](#):
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> ([http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/16/gop-senator-to-propose-bill-criminalizing-illegal-/](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/16/gop-senator-to-propose-bill-criminalizing-illegal-/))"]Sen. Doug Ericksen of Ferndale (WA) said in a news release his bill would create a new crime of “economic terrorism” and would allow felony prosecution of people involved in protests that block transportation and commerce, damage property, threaten jobs and put public safety at risk, he said.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31858 "2016-11-17T16:59:40Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> If there was a “Most Humble” tournament…  
> Trump would produce it, judge it and demand a swimsuit competition.

Imagining The Donald in a Speedo.

Thanks a lot.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31859 "2016-11-17T21:13:02Z")

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[There is a bill proposed in the Georgia state legislature to ban the wearing of burqas and hijabs](http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2016/11/16/a-bill-to-restrict-the-wearing-of-muslim-burqa-and-veil-in-georgia/). The article starts off mentioning the ban while getting DMV photos taken, which is fine, but it then goes on to say, “Spencer said his legislation was intended to apply to women who are driving on public roads, but the wording suggests the restriction might also apply to any kind of public property.”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31860 "2016-11-17T21:26:20Z")

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And a crowd of angry traditional nuns march on Atlanta, steel rulers gleaming…

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/31861 "2016-11-17T21:48:51Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [There is a bill proposed in the Georgia state legislature to ban the wearing of burqas and hijabs](http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2016/11/16/a-bill-to-restrict-the-wearing-of-muslim-burqa-and-veil-in-georgia/). The article starts off mentioning the ban while getting DMV photos taken, which is fine, but it then goes on to say, “Spencer said his legislation was intended to apply to women who are driving on public roads, but the wording suggests the restriction might also apply to any kind of public property.”

“which is fine”? What’s wrong with a head scarf?

Yes, burqas might be problematic. But they are exceedingly rare–I think I’ve seen two here in diverse Houston. On patients at the TMC–probably rich ladies who flew in, will fly out if they live & will not drive here.

Dumb crackers.

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