# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32142 "2017-01-06T20:19:52Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> And he called it the “Great Wall”, caps and all. Is that new for him, or has he called it the Great Wall before? Naturally I’d assumed Trump would build the wall with undocumented immigrants from Mexico, as any good real estate developer would. But if he’s going full “Great Wall”, maybe he’ll be getting the labor from China instead.

Interesting fact about \*that \*Great Wall : despite the colossal investment it didn’t actually, yanno, work. The Chinese \*still \*ended up with a Manchu dynasty. The Han were arguably better off cooperating with the Mongols & Jurchen rather than spending so much effort trying to keep them out at all costs, though. Maybe there’s a lesson there, too ;).

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32143 "2017-01-06T20:21:36Z")

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[Is Ann Coulter dogwhistling to the white nationalists?](http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/giddy-white-nationalists-hail-ann-coulter-after-she-seemingly-tweets-out-infamous-neo-nazi-slogan/)

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32144 "2017-01-06T21:19:41Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Interesting fact about \*that \*Great Wall : despite the colossal investment it didn’t actually, yanno, work. The Chinese \*still \*ended up with a Manchu dynasty. The Han were arguably better off cooperating with the Mongols & Jurchen rather than spending so much effort trying to keep them out at all costs, though. Maybe there’s a lesson there, too ;).

Cooperating with the people who had to be convinced that the Chinese people had more value as living producers of tax revenue than by killing them all and converting their lands to horse pasture? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32145 "2017-01-06T21:42:18Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Is Ann Coulter dogwhistling to the white nationalists?](http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/giddy-white-nationalists-hail-ann-coulter-after-she-seemingly-tweets-out-infamous-neo-nazi-slogan/)

Much as loathe this eggsuckingwhooore, I think they may reaching on this one.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32146 "2017-01-06T23:11:38Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> Much as loathe this eggsuckingwhooore, I think they may reaching on this one.

I’m on the fence about this one. Just tweeting “14!” without context is odd, and the responses from the open white nationalists are troubling, especially if she has not clarified her intent and distanced herself from them. And Coulter has dipped a toe or two into the racist sewer. I mean this as an honest question–not trying to be argumentative–what other explanations might there be?

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32147 "2017-01-06T23:13:13Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I’m on the fence about this one. Just tweeting “14!” without context is odd, and the responses from the open white nationalists are troubling, especially if she has not clarified her intent and distanced herself from them. And Coulter has dipped a toe or two into the racist sewer. I mean this as an honest question–not trying to be argumentative–what other explanations might there be?

“14 days to inauguration!”

I’m with TypoNegative…she’s terrible, but calling this a dog-whistle is a stretch.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32148 "2017-01-06T23:25:49Z")

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Why can’t it be both, like the late Earl Warren?

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32149 "2017-01-06T23:26:48Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> “14 days to inauguration!”
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> I’m with TypoNegative…she’s terrible, but calling this a dog-whistle is a stretch.

Except that inauguration is 15 days away. And “14 days!” would be a whole lot more clear if that’s what she meant.

Has she come out yet and said, “Oh shit, no! That’s not what I meant, you awful racists!”

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32150 "2017-01-06T23:31:06Z")

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Ah, actually she did later state that she was referring to the days left in the Obama administration.

[https://www.google.com/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us\_586e7734e4b02b5f858765ff/amp](https://www.google.com/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_586e7734e4b02b5f858765ff/amp)

I retract my allegation of racism and replace it with an allegation of poor math skills.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32151 "2017-01-06T23:47:01Z")

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Like I implied halfheartedly in the last post, she could be referring to both intentionally, with plausible deniability, in order to troll everyone.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32152 "2017-01-07T00:16:28Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Is Ann Coulter dogwhistling to the white nationalists?](http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/giddy-white-nationalists-hail-ann-coulter-after-she-seemingly-tweets-out-infamous-neo-nazi-slogan/)

Pic in the story looks like Alice Cooper.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32153 "2017-01-07T00:20:34Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Like I implied halfheartedly in the last post, she could be referring to both intentionally, with plausible deniability, in order to troll everyone.

This is entirely her M.O.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32154 "2017-01-07T01:46:29Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Congress wants to be able to cut the salary of federal employees to $1 at whim.](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/01/05/1617368/-GOP-goes-nuclear-on-federal-workers-instating-the-ability-to-slash-annual-salaries-to-1?detail=facebook)

That’s the Holman Rule. Probably will be used to hold as a threat against any civil service employee who doesn’t toe the POP\* party line. For example a NASA civilian employee working with satellite data on weather insisting on reporting actual numbers rather than Exxon provided numbers. Not fired, just reduced to $1 per year salary.  
\*POP = Party of Pepe, the white supremacist cartoon frog.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32155 "2017-01-07T01:50:13Z")

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> [@muffin](#):
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> two pinocchios up his ass? Republican’s sure are into their kink.

“Lie, damn you! Lie!”

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32156 "2017-01-07T01:54:56Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> “Lie, damn you! Lie!”

USE A SINGLE LOWER CASE CHARACTER AND CHANGE THE COLOR TO WHITE  
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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32157 "2017-01-07T01:57:17Z")

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[House GOP votes to conceal cost of Obamacare repeal to taxpayers](http://shareblue.com/house-gop-appallingly-votes-to-conceal-cost-of-obamacare-repeal-to-taxpayers/)

So much for transparency.

> [@](#):
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> On page 25 of the final rules package Republicans adopted this year, a subsection instructs the director of the Congressional Budget Office to perform a 10-year cost analysis of each bill reported by the House:
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> (1) CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE ANALYSIS OF PROPOSALS.—The Director of the Congressional Budget Office shall, to the extent practicable, prepare an estimate of whether a bill or joint resolution reported by a committee (other than the Committee on Appropriations), or amendment thereto or conference report thereon, would cause, relative to current law, a net increase in direct spending in excess of $5,000,000,000 in any of the 4 consecutive 10 fiscal year periods beginning with the first fiscal year that is 10 fiscal years after the current fiscal year.
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> But on the next page (emphasis added):
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> (4)\*\* LIMITATION\*\*.—This subsection shall not apply to any bill or joint resolution, or amendment thereto or conference report thereon—
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> (A) \*\*repealing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act \*\*and title I and subtitle B of title II of the Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010;
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> (B) reforming the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and the Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010; or
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> (C) for which the chair of the Committee on the Budget has made an adjustment to the allocations, levels, or limits contained in the most recently adopted concurrent resolution on the budget.
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> In other words, the new Republican rules package specifically instructs the CBO not to say how much it would cost to repeal Obamacare.
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> It is worth pointing out that the last time the CBO did a cost analysis of repealing Obamacare, in 2015, they found that it would increase the deficit by $353 billion.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32158 "2017-01-07T01:57:36Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> USE A SINGLE LOWER CASE CHARACTER AND CHANGE THE COLOR TO WHITE  
> a

YOU LlE!

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32159 "2017-01-07T02:01:27Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> That’s the Holman Rule. Probably will be used to hold as a threat against any civil service employee who doesn’t toe the POP\* party line. For example a NASA civilian employee working with satellite data on weather insisting on reporting actual numbers rather than Exxon provided numbers. Not fired, just reduced to $1 per year salary.

Also has the side benefit of gratifying non-wealthy Trump voters’ resentment that other people have decent job benefits and workplace protections, when their own jobs (if any) are so lousy and precarious.

So the wealthy elite Republicans get to intimidate federal employees whose actions might inconvenience them, and the non-wealthy struggling Republicans get to enjoy the schadenfreude of seeing those better-paid middle-class workers suffering. Nobody does covert class antagonism like the Republicans.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32160 "2017-01-07T04:22:16Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> If the Pubs make sure nothing gets done when the Dems have the majority and/or the Presidency, but the Dems allow good stuff to get done when the Pubs have the majority and/or Presidency, then the only rational way to vote is Republican. And obstructionism shouldn’t be rewarded.

It’s one of those Dilemmas.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32161 "2017-01-07T04:28:20Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> USE A SINGLE LOWER CASE CHARACTER AND CHANGE THE COLOR TO WHITE  
> a

Ah! Thank you!

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