# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32422 "2017-01-25T01:56:02Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Somebody told them there was a new Ladies’ Room there and they all went together.

I believe there was a sale on pink knit hats at a local boutique.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32423 "2017-01-25T02:42:55Z")

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Serious question. Why pipe the oil long distances? Why not just build a refinery where the oil is? Could it be because where they want to ship it to is a port city and they want to export it for foreign consumption? Not knowledgeable about the field at all, just asking questions.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32424 "2017-01-25T02:59:16Z")

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You’d still need to ship the product to market.

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**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32425 "2017-01-25T04:21:49Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Serious question. Why pipe the oil long distances? Why not just build a refinery where the oil is? Could it be because where they want to ship it to is a port city and they want to export it for foreign consumption? Not knowledgeable about the field at all, just asking questions.

There is a huge refinery, stinky and potentially dangerous, I suppose, on the east side of Edmonton, Alberta, one of the biggest I’ve ever seen. I imagine it is more effective to ship one product, crude oil, by pipeline rather than have several different lines, or use ‘plugs’ between different products in the line. Perhaps it is a crappy place to build anything new, up on the Great Slave Lake, etc. I don’t know.

So far as the tribal problems with the Dakota line…all forms of shipment of products that are oil or chemicals present safety and pollution challenges. A pipeline is supposed to be the safest, least polluting method. That’s why I simply said ‘cultural’ problems, questions about sacred ground, burial sites, etc. I also avoided singling out the tribal folks for eminent domain abuses on them, since everyone along the way was subject to the same sort of eminent domain procedure.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32426 "2017-01-25T04:23:37Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Serious question. Why pipe the oil long distances? Why not just build a refinery where the oil is?

Refineries are huge, dirty, smelly, extremely expensive, and require expert employees to operate. They don’t that in western North Dakota. And there are existing refineries elsewhere that have unused capacity. Plus you still have to ship the refined output to customers – there aren’t many of them in western North Dakota, either.

> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Could it be because where they want to ship it to is a port city and they want to export it for foreign consumption?

Yes, I’m sure there is some of that involved, too.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32427 "2017-01-25T04:38:53Z")

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Isn’t the DAPL aimed to end up in New Orleans?

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32428 "2017-01-25T08:23:44Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Isn’t the DAPL aimed to end up in New Orleans?

Ends at Patoka, Ill.

> **[The Conflicts Along 1,172 Miles of the Dakota Access Pipeline (Published 2016)](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/23/us/dakota-access-pipeline-protest-map.html)**
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> A detailed map showing the Dakota Access Pipeline, the site of months of clashes near the Standing Rock Sioux Reservation in North Dakota.

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**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32429 "2017-01-25T11:35:48Z")

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Dakota resistance…back when the Seneca’s ability to sell gasoline and cigarettes without state taxes was questioned and challenged by the state of NY, the Seneca simply rolled burning tires onto the interstate from their stockpile of millions of scrap tires dumped for a small fee on the Rez. Effort ended soon, especially when the state was reminded of the power distribution lines crossing their nation.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32430 "2017-01-25T12:45:53Z")

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Some Trumpettes tried to start a _#ThankYouTrump_ Twitter rally[…and it didn’t quite go as planned.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/thank-you-trump-twitter-rally_us_58884c75e4b0441a8f71db38?)

“#ThankYouTrump for freezing all regulations. Who wants educated and concerned people looking out for our health, the environment and stuff”

“#ThankYouTrump for gathering together a bunch of old, white, GOP men to sign away women’s rights in order to soothe your impotency issues. ������”

“For caring about popular votes and crowd sizes more than the American people #ThankYouTrump”

“#ThankYouTrump for turning our country into a dystopian reality show”

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32431 "2017-01-25T14:34:09Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX); [don’t watch the news, because Donald Trump is the only source you need for absolute truth.](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/lamar-smith-trump-liberal-media)

Ladies and gentlemen, the chairman of the House Science, Space and Technology Committee.

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**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32432 "2017-01-25T16:22:18Z")

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I am sick to death of all the ignorant and evil Republicans. May they all drown in their own pflem.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32433 "2017-01-25T22:07:24Z")

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Nitpick: phlegm

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32434 "2017-01-25T23:38:10Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Ends at Patoka, Ill.  
> [The Conflicts Along 1,172 Miles of the Dakota Access Pipeline - The New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/23/us/dakota-access-pipeline-protest-map.html)

So it has to go over or under the Mississippi River?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32435 "2017-01-25T23:40:52Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> So it has to go over or under the Mississippi River?

Not a problem. Trump will just command the Mississippi to flow around the pipeline.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32436 "2017-01-25T23:49:06Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Not a problem. Trump will just command the Mississippi to flow around the pipeline.

King Cannot has spoken!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32437 "2017-01-25T23:52:58Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Nitpick: phlegm

Nickel says you been whooshed.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32438 "2017-01-26T02:03:48Z")

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While many high ranking Republicans finally seem to get it about tax cuts and making sure they are revenue neutral, a lot of Republicans are still revelling in the stupid:

[http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-tax-cuts-deficits-234143](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-tax-cuts-deficits-234143)

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> Contrast that with comments by Heritage Action’s Dan Holler, who argued that less revenue is better and more akin to GOP values: “The federal government has a spending problem, not a revenue problem. Lawmakers do not need to be constrained by ‘revenue neutrality’ as they pursue much needed, pro-growth tax reform.”
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> Adamant Trump supporter Steve Forbes argued in an op-ed Monday that Republicans are too obsessed with paying for tax cuts.
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> “Great tax cutters of the past, such as Ronald Reagan and John F. Kennedy, were wise enough to never make tax cuts contingent on spending cuts,” Forbes wrote. “[T]hose two great leaders knew that it can take time for new investments to come to full fruition. … Even though a properly structured major tax cut will start showing big, positive results right away, its full benefits will flow in over several years.”

We’ve done this twice already. Tax cuts without spending cuts just means huge deficits and often economic bubbles. Do NOT do this a third time!

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32439 "2017-01-26T03:50:09Z")

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So you’re going to consider not voting for them any more?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32440 "2017-01-26T04:13:19Z")

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My vote for Republican candidates has always been conditional on them actually being good candidates. I’ve only voted for a Republican for President twice in seven elections, and for Congress probably about 70% of the time. I don’t make excuses like, “Control of Congress! Supreme Court!” like Democrats do.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/32441 "2017-01-26T05:04:32Z")

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Great tax cutters of the past like Ronald Reagan??? He raised taxes 9 times (or 11 counting some other actions) during his 8 years in office.

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