# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1658
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33142 "2017-03-20T06:31:35Z")
Whenever people, such as Hannity, start blathering about “deep state”, I realize that I’m the fool. I’m the fool for paying attention to them in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33143 "2017-03-20T10:30:52Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > **[White House installs political aides at Cabinet agencies to be Trump’s eyes and ears](https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/white-house-installs-political-aides-at-cabinet-agencies-to-be-trumps-eyes-and-ears/2017/03/19/68419f0e-08da-11e7-93dc-00f9bdd74ed1_story.html?utm_term=.b6b390cb506d)** Well that’s very normal and democratic. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33144 "2017-03-20T16:31:07Z")
This is a serious question, how is the “deep state” different from the longstanding institutional bureaucracy of the federal government? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33145 "2017-03-20T16:38:21Z")
> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#): > > This is a serious question, how is the “deep state” different from the longstanding institutional bureaucracy of the federal government? It’s an imaginary enemy, as opposed to a real enemy? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33146 "2017-03-20T16:41:27Z")
I get the feeling “deep state” has as sort of evocative quality, wafting a scent of something like “trilateral commission” type thing. Alex-Jonesy-types respond emotionally to that kind of language. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33147 "2017-03-20T16:57:04Z")
> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#): > > This is a serious question, how is the “deep state” different from the longstanding institutional bureaucracy of the federal government? In less contentious times, I think the same people were referred to as “career diplomats”. Or at worst, “bureaucrats”. But now they’re something much more sinister, like the Martians planted underground in War of the Worlds. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33148 "2017-03-20T18:00:49Z")
> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#): > > This is a serious question, how is the “deep state” different from the longstanding institutional bureaucracy of the federal government? It’s essentially that, coupled with the notion that the bureaucrats are also sufficiently evil/partisan/brainwashed that they’ll risk torpedoing their own careers (and maybe ending up in prison) in order to make Trump look bad. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33149 "2017-03-20T18:41:18Z")
> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#): > > This is a serious question, how is the “deep state” different from the longstanding institutional bureaucracy of the federal government? There are four distinct groups of Federal employees: [ul][li] The lazy incompetent “Teat Sucklers.” These people live in the hope that a cure for cancer or fusion-power patent will cross their desk, so they can stamp _“Application Denied”_ with one hand while yanking their ding-dong with the other.[/li][li] The new-order “Enlightened Ones.” These are the people who have been replacing Fort Knox’s gold with tungsten, shipping the real stuff to the Rothschild Zionists. They’ve also been selectively poisoning water supplies throughout the country to affect racial balances. (I think they’re the ones who planted explosives in the WTC on September 10, though some say this was a Deep-Fucker operation.)[/li][li] The pro-Drumpf “Ass Lickers”, largely found in the military and police forces. These were biding their time until 2017 but are now fantasizing about working in the torture dungeons of the many new private prisons that will soon be built.[/li][li] The ones Trump is concerned about are the “Deep Fuckers.” They are desperately trying to brainwash our children into becoming homosexuals, Muslims or both. With The Wall going up, they have a plan to bring terrorists by submarine straight from Kenya to Berkeley, California.[/li][/ul] The nicknames I’ve shown for the four groups are not my invention. These are the team names they use for their week-end intramural softball matches. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33150 "2017-03-20T21:22:52Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Wouldn’t it be great if nobody bids, if nobody builds the damn thing? I’m guessing the bids will come in high. Remember, in addition to the materials and labor, they have to [condemn a whole lot of property](https://www.texasobserver.org/texas-border-wall-mexico-condemnation-letter/). Some owners won’t be happy and will take them to court which, by my guess, will last until after the 2020 election. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33151 "2017-03-20T21:31:05Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > I’m guessing the bids will come in high. Remember, in addition to the materials and labor, they have to [condemn a whole lot of property](https://www.texasobserver.org/texas-border-wall-mexico-condemnation-letter/). Some owners won’t be happy and will take them to court which, by my guess, will last until after the 2020 election. Trump just needs to declare those property owners “deep state traitors” and have them shipped off to Guantanamo. Problem solved. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33152 "2017-03-20T21:34:18Z")
Well, if I lived in, say, Columbus NM, and my annoying next-door neighbor put up a fight, I would just say, hey, build it on my property, so that he is on the Mexico side. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33153 "2017-03-20T21:38:20Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > I’m guessing the bids will come in high. Remember, in addition to the materials and labor, they have to [condemn a whole lot of property](https://www.texasobserver.org/texas-border-wall-mexico-condemnation-letter/). Some owners won’t be happy and will take them to court which, by my guess, will last until after the 2020 election. All that, just to satisfy some people’s racism. It’s not anything else–as we know, net immigration from Mexico is about zero, and all illegal immigration has been dropping: > [@](#): > > More Mexican immigrants have returned to Mexico from the U.S. than have migrated here since the end of the Great Recession, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of newly available government data from both countries. The same data sources also show the overall flow of Mexican immigrants between the two countries is at its smallest since the 1990s, mostly due to a drop in the number of Mexican immigrants coming to the U.S. [More Mexicans Leaving Than Coming to the U.S. | Pew Research Center](http://www.pewhispanic.org/2015/11/19/more-mexicans-leaving-than-coming-to-the-u-s/) So ‘the Wall’ isn’t about protecting the US economy; it’s about expressing hatred, fear, and revulsion against the Trump regime’s second (or third, if you count “the Media” and “Muslims” as tied for first) favorite scapegoat: Latino people. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33154 "2017-03-20T22:59:11Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > I’m guessing the bids will come in high. Remember, in addition to the materials and labor, they have to [condemn a whole lot of property](https://www.texasobserver.org/texas-border-wall-mexico-condemnation-letter/). Some owners won’t be happy and will take them to court which, by my guess, will last until after the 2020 election. And on top of that, they have to build in a “Trump is going to fuck the contractors, as usual” percentage in order to remain profitable. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33155 "2017-03-20T23:18:30Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Whenever people, such as Hannity, start blathering about “deep state”, I realize that I’m the fool. I’m the fool for paying attention to them in the first place. I watch that sociopath from time to time, mostly for amusement but occassionally to confirm that _I’m_ not fucking nutz. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33156 "2017-03-20T23:24:21Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > And on top of that, they have to build in a “Trump is going to fuck the contractors, as usual” percentage in order to remain profitable. Don’t forget building a series of roads to get the workers and material to the wall-building sites. Unless they plan to use sky-hooks. (These roads will also make it much easier for illegals going over or under the wall to reach urban centers!) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33157 "2017-03-20T23:44:23Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Don’t forget building a series of roads to get the workers and material to the wall-building sites. Unless they plan to use sky-hooks. > > (These roads will also make it much easier for illegals going over or under the wall to reach urban centers!) Don’t forget sanitary facilities, housing, food, laundry, etc. Some areas are too far for the workers to be commuting. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33158 "2017-03-21T00:24:03Z")
The bids/proposals are due March 29th. Nine days to bid on what would be one of the biggest construction projects ever (Panama canal has it beat, but what else? The Chunnel perhaps, Hoover dam, Three Gorges dam). Nine. Days. Hahaahahhahahahahah. > [@](#): > > \hour to cut through it with a "sledgehammer, **car jack** , pick axe, chisel, battery operated impact tools, battery operated cutting tools, Oxy/acetylene torch or other similar hand-held tools. Bolding mine. Car jack? BWWWaAAhhahaahahah. Chisel, battery operated cutting tools? Was the RFP written by a 10 year old? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33159 "2017-03-21T00:25:23Z")
The old saying goes “Show me a thirty foot wall and I’ll show you a thirty five foot ladder.” ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33160 "2017-03-21T00:34:47Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > The old saying goes “Show me a thirty foot wall and I’ll show you a thirty five foot ladder.” Or a shovel. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/33161 "2017-03-21T00:40:49Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > > [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > > > Don’t forget building a series of roads to get the workers and material to the wall-building sites. Unless they plan to use sky-hooks. > > > > (These roads will also make it much easier for illegals going over or under the wall to reach urban centers!) > > Don’t forget sanitary facilities, housing, food, laundry, etc. Some areas are too far for the workers to be commuting. That part can be contracted out to Sheriff Joe Arpaio — I’d imagine he’d be willing to supply tents, rotten bologna sandwiches and pink underwear at only a slight markup. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1657) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1659)