# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1744
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34862 "2017-08-23T02:31:42Z")
Idaho Republican thinks the Charlottesville violence was orchestrated by Obama, Soros and Terry McAuliffe in order to make Trump look bad. [http://www.postregister.com/articles/news-daily-email-todays-headlines/2017/08/18/rep-shares-article-saying-charlottesville-was-](http://www.postregister.com/articles/news-daily-email-todays-headlines/2017/08/18/rep-shares-article-saying-charlottesville-was-) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34863 "2017-08-23T02:44:17Z")
Louise Linton photo, [provided with a different set of tags](https://twitter.com/WorkingFamilies/status/900018943347314690/photo/1) explaining where she and Sugar Daddy got the cash to buy her all that designer bling. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34864 "2017-08-23T02:53:17Z")
He got that money producing **Suicide Squad.** He should be ashamed. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34865 "2017-08-23T14:09:35Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Idaho Republican thinks the Charlottesville violence was orchestrated by Obama, Soros and Terry McAuliffe in order to make Trump look bad. > [http://www.postregister.com/articles/news-daily-email-todays-headlines/2017/08/18/rep-shares-article-saying-charlottesville-was-](http://www.postregister.com/articles/news-daily-email-todays-headlines/2017/08/18/rep-shares-article-saying-charlottesville-was-) Unfortunately, ID has many other grade A dunces like this maroon. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34866 "2017-08-23T14:53:10Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Jim Bakker: [The eclipse is God’s punishment for the Obama years](http://bizstandardnews.com/2017/08/19/bakker-eclipse-is-gods-punishment-for-obama-years/). 😕 Why is the image in that link a photo of Wolf Blitzer? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34867 "2017-08-23T15:01:42Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > He got that money producing **Suicide Squad.** He should be ashamed. He probably got more from _Wonder Woman_. If you bought a ticket, you helped subsidize this travesty. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34868 "2017-08-23T15:13:22Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > God, continued: And I will do them after a significant period of time of his leaving office! That’ll show everyone! > > [Starts cackling madly, the volume and insanity growing as He continues His maniacal laughter] > > St Peter: Dude, are you okay? That plan doesn’t make sense… > > God: Doesn’t have to. That’s the beauty of it! It doesn’t do anything! > > [God looks around] > > God: Where did I put that medamned bottle of whisky? Satan: That’s messed up, dude. [(see red button)](http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/dear-god-2) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34869 "2017-08-23T18:07:46Z")
Going to take a moment to underscore a bit of good news. Eric Prince, America’s answer to Ernst Stavro Blofeld, came up with a brilliant plan for Afghanistan. Give him ten billion dollars a year and he will privatize the war with his team of crack mercenaries…excuse, security consultants…and they will take over the effort. > **[Erik Prince's Plan to Privatize the War in Afghanistan](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/afghanistan-camp-david/537324/)** > > President Trump is meeting with his aides on Friday at Camp David—and some unorthodox ideas are on the table. (link included only because somebody who did not already know this would probably think I am making this up. I am not making this up!) This plan has been rejected. Rejoice, children, we have finally found the Outer Limit, the thing that is too crazy for Trump! Now we can calibrate, now we have an actual line that is too fucking batshit! (Either that, or Chuck Norris was too busy…) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34870 "2017-08-23T18:38:57Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Going to take a moment to underscore a bit of good news. Eric Prince, America’s answer to Ernst Stavro Blofeld, came up with a brilliant plan for Afghanistan. Give him ten billion dollars a year and he will privatize the war with his team of crack mercenaries…excuse, security consultants…and they will take over the effort. > > [Erik Prince's Plan to Privatize the War in Afghanistan - The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/afghanistan-camp-david/537324/) > > (link included only because somebody who did not already know this would probably think I am making this up. I am not making this up!) > > This plan has been rejected. Rejoice, children, we have finally found the Outer Limit, the thing that is too crazy for Trump! Now we can calibrate, now we have an actual line that is too fucking batshit! > > (Either that, or Chuck Norris was too busy…) His sister can’t handle education, how can he handle a war? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34871 "2017-08-24T02:43:46Z")
Newt Gingrich: “If you go and you look at how South Carolina’s slave newspapers responded to Lincoln and then you look at how the left responded to Trump. They are almost verbatim parallels” > **[Newt Gingrich: The left's opposition to Trump is "almost verbatim" reaction...](https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/newt-gingrich-lefts-opposition-trump-almost-verbatim-reaction-slave-newspapers-had)** > > From the August 23 edition of Fox News' Tucker Carlson Tonight: ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34872 "2017-08-24T13:54:06Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Newt Gingrich: > “If you go and you look at how South Carolina’s slave newspapers responded to Lincoln and then you look at how the left responded to Trump. They are almost verbatim parallels” > > [https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2017/08/23/Newt-Gingrich-The-lefts-opposition-to-Trump-is-almost-verbatim-reaction-slave-newspapers-h/217746](https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2017/08/23/Newt-Gingrich-The-lefts-opposition-to-Trump-is-almost-verbatim-reaction-slave-newspapers-h/217746) I do seem to remember the Charleston Gazette reporting on Lincoln’s tweets. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34873 "2017-08-24T14:14:28Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I do seem to remember the Charleston Gazette reporting on Lincoln’s tweets. One reason Barack Obama is better than Jeff Davis is that he’s more tech-savvy. And s couldn’t get a tweet in under 140 characters to save his life. His pronouncements were _wordy_. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34874 "2017-08-24T16:31:45Z")
I tried to find more information on the parallels Newt was talking about, and while it appears the professor he mentioned does actually exist ([Allen Guelzo](https://www.gettysburg.edu/academics/cwes/faculty/employee_detail.dot?empId=02779742420013302&pageTitle=Allen+Guelzo)) I can’t find any articles Dr Guelzo has published on this particular topic. Can some with access to some academic databases do a search? I’m really quite interested to see if the parallels are as plentiful and close as Newt makes it sound. ---
**Author:** ![Sterling\_Archer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Sterling\_Archer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterling_Archer)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34875 "2017-08-24T16:53:16Z")
I think looking for a factual basis in Newt’s quote is missing the point, just like fact-checking Trump is missing the point. They put out a message and certain kinds of people like it – regardless of truth – and rather than attacking the veracity of the message, we should be addressing WHY it has become popular to think that way. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34876 "2017-08-24T17:02:12Z")
> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#): > > I tried to find more information on the parallels Newt was talking about, and while it appears the professor he mentioned does actually exist ([Allen Guelzo](https://www.gettysburg.edu/academics/cwes/faculty/employee_detail.dot?empId=02779742420013302&pageTitle=Allen+Guelzo)) I can’t find any articles Dr Guelzo has published on this particular topic. Can some with access to some academic databases do a search? I’m really quite interested to see if the parallels are as plentiful and close as Newt makes it sound. I’m not sure there’s actual publications so much as the conversation described on [this blog post by Gingrich](http://www.gingrichproductions.com/2017/01/understanding-trump-and-trumpism-part-5-after-the-inaugural-2/) (search for Guelzo, it’s about halfway down the page). Gingrich asked Guelzo to compare Trump’s inaugural speech to Lincoln’s in 1861, and the respective reactions to them, and Guelzo complied. Why either Gingrich or Guelzo would think that this was some kind of big “GOTCHA!” to liberals I don’t understand, except maybe on the level of _“Ha ha see liberals are just like slaveholders because both of them got mad at a President!”_ People get mad at things they consider unworthy or contemptible. And AFAICT, the fact that 19th-century slaveowners got mad at a guy like Lincoln in no way discredits the fact that 21st-century liberals got mad at a guy like Trump. Apples and orange Kool-Aid. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34877 "2017-08-24T17:11:37Z")
> [@Sterling\_Archer](#): > > I think looking for a factual basis in Newt’s quote is missing the point, just like fact-checking Trump is missing the point. They put out a message and certain kinds of people like it – regardless of truth – and rather than attacking the veracity of the message, we should be addressing WHY it has become popular to think that way. It’s not that hard to figure out. Tell people what they want to hear. Done. You want a pony, I’ll get you a pony. Doesn’t that make my message sound so great and wonderful. So wonderful in fact, that you have no reason to wonder whether or not I can actually follow through on my promise to get you a pony. So, to answer the question as to why people resonate to these ideas, why people will follow those who tell them what they want to hear, is that they are completely lacking any sort of critical thinking skills. We should be addressing why people are so accepting of voting for people who they very well know just lied to their face. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34878 "2017-08-24T18:16:51Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Why either Gingrich or Guelzo would think that this was some kind of big “GOTCHA!” to liberals I don’t understand, except maybe on the level of _“Ha ha see liberals are just like slaveholders because both of them got mad at a President!”_ It’s exactly like some nut who can’t get anyone to take his perpetual motion machine seriously. “They laughed at Galileo!!” His logic being, “If they laugh at me, then I’m as smart as Galileo!” But as Carl Sagan said, “They also laughed at Bozo the Clown.” ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34879 "2017-08-24T18:35:12Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [Let Them Eat Cake!](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/22/us/politics/mnuchin-louise-linton-treasury-instagram.html) > > (emphasis on tacky nouveau-riche attitude added) Whoa. You REALLY should not be an asshole on the Internet like Louise Linton (Missus Munchkin) did, when there are nekkid pictures of you on the Internet. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34880 "2017-08-24T19:11:54Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > It’s exactly like some nut who can’t get anyone to take his perpetual motion machine seriously. “They laughed at Galileo!!” His logic being, “If they laugh at me, then I’m as smart as Galileo!” > > But as Carl Sagan said, “They also laughed at Bozo the Clown.” Hey! Pinto Colvig was one savvy guy. He not only did voices for Disney AND for Fleischer, he was also a newspaper cartoonist, an animator, a radio and movie actor, and a director. He performed live as a clown and invented Bozo (even though too many people think that Larry Harmon did), voicing him on three records. Besides, when people laughed at Bozo, it means he was doing it _right_ > **[Pinto Colvig](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinto_Colvig)** > > Vance DeBar Colvig Sr. (September 11, 1892 – October 3, 1967), known professionally as Pinto Colvig, was an American voice actor, cartoonist, and circus and vaudeville performer whose schtick was playing the clarinet off-key while mugging. Colvig was the original performer of the Disney characters Goofy and Pluto, as well as Bozo the Clown and Bluto in Popeye. In 1993, he was posthumously made a Disney Legend for his contributions to Walt Disney Films, including Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs ... ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34881 "2017-08-24T20:23:42Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Whoa. You REALLY should not be an asshole on the Internet like Louise Linton (Missus Munchkin) did, when there are nekkid pictures of you on the Internet. Did she tag them with the clothing designers whose clothes she was not wearing? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1743) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1745)