# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34942 "2017-09-01T18:47:20Z")

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Congressman Ron DeSantis wants to put a time limit on the Mueller investigation.

> **[GOP lawmaker wants to give Robert Mueller's Russia investigation a six-month...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/08/29/ron-desantis-wants-to-shorten-probe-into-trump-russia-ties/612029001/)**
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> Florida Republican Ron DeSantis has filed legislation that would put a 180-day limit on the investigation into the Trump campaign's connections with Moscow.

But he wants investigations into Debbie Wasserman-Schultz

> **[Rep. DeSantis Wants Congress to Investigate Wasserman Schultz - Roll Call](https://rollcall.com/2017/07/31/rep-desantis-wants-congress-to-investigate-wasserman-schultz/)**
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> Rep. Ron DeSantis told “Fox & Friends” Monday  said Congress should investigate Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s employment of a man charged with submitting a fraudulent loan application and potentially scamming his House...

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34943 "2017-09-01T19:39:09Z")

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Texas’s Secretary of State turned down offers of manpower and equipment from the province of Quebec, asking her to send the state prayers, instead.

> **[Texas' secretary of state turned down Quebec's aid offer, asked for "prayers"...](https://www.salon.com/2017/09/01/texas-secretary-of-state-turned-down-quebecs-aid-offer-asked-for-prayers-instead/)**
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> Hurricane Harvey is illustrating America's tense international relationships

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34944 "2017-09-02T00:40:53Z")

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I maintain that _Texas_ should not get a dime in aid.

If _Houston_ wants aid, we can make it its own state. _Texas_ gets nothing, as per the principles so avowedly espoused for so long.

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**Author:** ![Reddy\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@Reddy\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reddy_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34945 "2017-09-02T01:04:53Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> **Build the Wall!**
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> The sea wall, to keep the rising ocean and storm surges out of the city.

+1000

Every single port city and island should be having billions pumped into it for sea-wall and sea level rise protections. I live in New York City. At the rate things are going, this city will vanish from the Earth in the future because of sea level rise. So many precious areas of our planet, like Venice and San Francisco will either be washed away or greatly diminished because of sea-level rise and no one is doing anything.

Building a wall to keep out some of our hardest working people is just so stupid.

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**Author:** ![Reddy\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@Reddy\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reddy_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34946 "2017-09-02T01:05:58Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> I maintain that _Texas_ should not get a dime in aid.
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> If _Houston_ wants aid, we can make it its own state. _Texas_ gets nothing, as per the principles so avowedly espoused for so long.

That’s a little cruel. Not every Texan is a Republican or conservative. You’re basically harming a million good people to spite a hundred thousand bad ones.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34947 "2017-09-02T01:28:12Z")

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> [@Reddy\_Mercury](#):
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> That’s a little cruel. Not every Texan is a Republican or conservative. You’re basically harming a million good people to spite a hundred thousand bad ones.

I think you’ve got that backwards, in terms of who’s good and who’s bad.\*

That is, harming one hundred thousand good ones for the sake of spiting a million bad ones.

You _are_ correct that harming the few good ones to spite the many bad ones is a misguided idea.

\*For clarity, it’s the Republicans and the [del]conservatives[/del] reactionaries who are bad, and the non-Republicans (who are unfortunately outnumbered by the bad guys) who are (at least provisionally) good.

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**Author:** ![Reddy\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@Reddy\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reddy_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34948 "2017-09-02T02:03:07Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I think you’ve got that backwards, in terms of who’s good and who’s bad.\*
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> That is, harming one hundred thousand good ones for the sake of spiting a million bad ones.
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> You _are_ correct that harming the few good ones to spite the many bad ones is a misguided idea.
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> \*For clarity, it’s the Republicans and the [del]conservatives[/del] reactionaries who are bad, and the non-Republicans (who are unfortunately outnumbered by the bad guys) who are (at least provisionally) good.

Yeah, either way you spin it, not helping Texas because some level of people there are people you don’t like is immoral. And even then - not all Republicans and conservatives are bad. There plenty of Republicans who despise Trump. I’ve never been to Texas but I wouldn’t support denying aid to any part of the country just because the majority of its inhabitants don’t agree with me politically. We’re one nation.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34949 "2017-09-02T02:14:47Z")

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> [@Reddy\_Mercury](#):
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> Yeah, either way you spin it, not helping Texas because some level of people there are people you don’t like is immoral. And even then - not all Republicans and conservatives are bad. There plenty of Republicans who despise Trump. I’ve never been to Texas but I wouldn’t support denying aid to any part of the country just because the majority of its inhabitants don’t agree with me politically. We’re one nation.

All of Texas from Austin-San Antonio and southward went for Hillary. There are PLENTY of us who listen to NPR and read the New York Times every day and loved Obama. This is a BIG state. And yet there are many many days when the Texas legislature and Texas politicians are an embarrassment and a disgrace to level-headed people like myself and all of my friends.

Instead of denying aid to Texas, let’s just split the difference and float Ted Cruz out to sea in a leaky raft.

ETA: You don’t really want to deny aid to people like this, do you?

> [@](#):
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> HOUSTON — A Holocaust survivor waded waist-deep in flood water. Dozens of people were trapped in a 14-story residence for seniors. A disabled man sat alone at home, without the aide who usually helps him, watching the water rise and unsure if anyone would come.
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> Harvey was terrifying for millions of people along the Gulf Coast. But it was particularly difficult for the region’s seniors and disabled, many of whom struggled to escape as the water rose. Now, some wait in shelters for chemotherapy, dialysis, pain medication, a pillow. Rescue teams are still evacuating people from their homes…

[Cite](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/us/storm-elderly-harvey.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0)

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34950 "2017-09-02T02:33:59Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Texas’s Secretary of State turned down offers of manpower and equipment from the province of Quebec, asking her to send the state prayers, instead.  
> [http://www.salon.com/2017/09/01/texas-secretary-of-state-turned-down-quebecs-aid-offer-asked-for-prayers-instead/](http://www.salon.com/2017/09/01/texas-secretary-of-state-turned-down-quebecs-aid-offer-asked-for-prayers-instead/)

_Canadian_ prayers? Is he _trying_ to get them all smited?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34951 "2017-09-02T03:55:01Z")

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> [@Reddy\_Mercury](#):
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> That’s a little cruel. Not every Texan is a Republican or conservative. You’re basically harming a million good people to spite a hundred thousand bad ones.

My cynical California self actually believes that Texans would turn their backs on California if there were a disaster here.

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**Author:** ![Reddy\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@Reddy\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reddy_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34952 "2017-09-02T03:58:24Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> My cynical California self actually believes that Texans would turn their backs on California if there were a disaster here.

It’s possible, but it’s nice to be the better person. If you turn your back on them, then you’re no better than they are.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34953 "2017-09-02T04:41:11Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> My cynical California self actually believes that Texans would turn their backs on California if there were a disaster here.

Please don’t demonize all of us, because we have stupid politicians and a bunch of jerky Trump supporters. That hurts. We’re not all like that. The state isn’t one monolithic entity, just like California isn’t.

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**Author:** ![Reddy\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@Reddy\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reddy_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34954 "2017-09-02T04:44:12Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Please don’t demonize all of us, because we have stupid politicians and a bunch of jerky Trump supporters. That hurts. We’re not all like that. The state isn’t one monolithic entity, just like California isn’t.

Every State in the Union has its value, and its good and bad moments.

The Alt-Right hates New York City as much as they hate California. Both are seen as places of “Liberal depravity.” I for one welcome any affiliation with California.

But even though they hate my city, I would never hate theirs. There’s always a diamond in the rough.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34955 "2017-09-02T08:46:43Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> _Canadian_ prayers? Is he _trying_ to get them all smited?

Just what Houston needs. A heavenly barge full of poutine mysteriously shows up.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34956 "2017-09-02T09:22:33Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Just what Houston needs. A heavenly barge full of poutine mysteriously shows up.

Shit! Now I TOTALY want Heavenly Poutine.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34957 "2017-09-02T19:35:14Z")

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Didn’t Heavenly Poutine open at Lilith Fair back in '98.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34958 "2017-09-02T21:06:10Z")

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Last year a québécoise family made the world a better place by opening up a poutine restaurant in my town.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34959 "2017-09-03T05:32:23Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> My cynical California self actually believes that Texans would turn their backs on California if there were a disaster here.

My cynical Massachusetts self remembers the energy crisis of the 1970s and how [Texans reacted to the crisis in the Northeast:](http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/let_the_bastards_freeze_in_the_dark_drive_80_mph_and_freeze_a_yankee)

> [@](#):
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> “Let the bastards freeze in the dark” (or “Let the Yankee bastards freeze in the dark” or “Let them freeze in the dark”) and “Drive 80 mph and freeze a Yankee” (or “Drive 90 mph and freeze a Yankee” or “Drive fast and freeze a Yankee") were bumper stickers that were popular in Texas during the 1973-74 energy crisis.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34960 "2017-09-03T15:05:58Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> My cynical Massachusetts self remembers the energy crisis of the 1970s and how [Texans reacted to the crisis in the Northeast:](http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/let_the_bastards_freeze_in_the_dark_drive_80_mph_and_freeze_a_yankee)

Thank you for the reminder. I was feeling guilty as hell about not really giving a shit about the Texans; now I’m a lot better.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/34961 "2017-09-03T15:46:18Z")

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Oh, us Bay Staters are sending help, lots of it – trained rescue crews, tractor-trailer loads of donated goods, even down to taking (even more than we usually do) shelter dogs from Southern partner rescues\* to free up room in them for Harvey refugees. Collecting money, too, of course. And we expect our tax dollars to go to the rebuilding effort – because all of that is what good citizens do.

But we have long memories.

- Shelters in the Northeast regularly import and rehome dogs from high-kill shelters in the Southeastern states. For example: [http://arnne.org/home/about-us/](http://arnne.org/home/about-us/)

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