# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35322 "2017-10-17T01:23:55Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> I don’t know if this qualifies, but it pissed me the fuck off. [FB post](https://www.facebook.com/EricGreitens/?hc_ref=ARTA2ift461sSoaVVLoVA8ks35Hphtk1zuvUIDbo7h24QqoqPOkGBexouCEZKJ0Fg6Y&fref=nf&pnref=story)from the Governor of Missouri:
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> > The Satanic Temple, Planned Parenthood, and the ACLU are suing Missouri because of our conservative reforms. We must be doing something right!
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> Fucking troll post. Nice.

“Tee hee hee, we’re fucking up our citizens’ constitutional rights and pissing off the liberals! Isn’t that fun? Yay us!”

Modern US conservatives are operating literally with the mentality of a third-grade playground. They seriously don’t give a hoot how unsustainable, unconstitutional, or irresponsible their actions are as long as they manage to make liberals mad at them.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35323 "2017-10-17T03:55:49Z")

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Governor Voldemort, er, Scott has declared a state of emergency because Richard Spencer is going to be speaking at the University of Florida.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35324 "2017-10-17T03:58:49Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> I don’t know if this qualifies, but it pissed me the fuck off. [FB post](https://www.facebook.com/EricGreitens/?hc_ref=ARTA2ift461sSoaVVLoVA8ks35Hphtk1zuvUIDbo7h24QqoqPOkGBexouCEZKJ0Fg6Y&fref=nf&pnref=story)from the Governor of Missouri:  
> Fucking troll post. Nice.

I live in Missouri. One of my FB friends liked the Governor’s post. This friend is county police captain.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35325 "2017-10-17T08:42:35Z")

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Newt Gingrich has a “covfefe” moment in tweeting his support of the president:

> [@Newt](#):
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> Presideent Trtump was rermarkably stgroing in hius joint press event with Sen McConnell. His grasp of the issues is very deep and growing.

The internet provides burns so strong they threaten to set off new wildfires:

> [@Ramzy Nasrallah](#):
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> I assume your spellcheck is in the hospital battling cancer so you abandoned it

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35326 "2017-10-17T13:42:36Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Newt Gingrich has a “covfefe” moment in tweeting his support of the president:
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> The internet provides burns so strong they threaten to set off new wildfires:

Even corrected, that tweet would be complete gibberish.

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35327 "2017-10-17T14:02:22Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I live in Missouri. One of my FB friends liked the Governor’s post. This friend is county police captain.

I worked, until recently, in a law enforcement setting in MO. It’s scary how ate up cops are with this guy and Trump.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35328 "2017-10-17T14:32:02Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> Fun with statistics - I’d love to see the median number (assuming that these values aren’t just pulled out of the administration’s ass).
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> And of course, a lot of people scanning the article will read it as “the average household will get a $4,000 tax cut”.

Give a $5,000,000 tax cut to one family, raise 1000 other families’ taxes by $1000 each, and the average tax cut is $4000. Yay for tax cuts!

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35329 "2017-10-17T19:06:54Z")

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Michael Williams, candidate for Governor of Georgia, in response to calls to make bump stocks illegal, is giving one away, calling it a violation of the Second Amendment to take them away.

> **[Georgia Governor Candidate Giving Away Bump Stock](https://www.newsweek.com/candidate-georgia-governor-giving-away-bump-stock-one-used-las-vegas-shooting-686475)**
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> Blaming bump stocks for gun crime is like "blaming McDonald's for heart disease," says Michael Williams.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35330 "2017-10-17T19:13:56Z")

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Rand Paul and Lindsey Graham are publicly feuding on twitter over who’s responsible for torpedoing budget talks.

Rand Paul:  
“Senators McCain and Graham are torpedoing the budget by insisting on busting the budget caps for more spending.”

> <https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/920307764609667077>

Lindsey Graham:  
“Getting more bad info @RandPaul. Don’t screw up #TaxReform now. You already saved #Obamacare by trashing #GrahamCassidy-Heller-Johnson.”

> <https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/920328738767859712>
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> Rand Paul @RandPaul

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35331 "2017-10-17T20:12:23Z")

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This one could go into the **Clusterfuck** thread, but I will drop it here first. The Whitehouse Council on Environmental Quality will probably be headed by [this person](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438177/coal-clean-energy-it-gop-platform-righ),  
“_Although now viewed by the EPA as dirty carbon pollution, carbon dioxide (CO2) lacks any of the characteristics of a real pollutant. CO2 is an odorless, invisible, and beneficial natural gas and the catalyst for photosynthesis, the most vital energy conversion in our biosphere. How soon we forget eight-grade science! CO2’s life-amplifying potency is why greenhouses pump CO2 to levels over four times that of the natural concentration in the air we breathe._”

Goddam those creepy tree-huggers and AGW alarmists. More CO[sub]2[/sub]. Such great stuff it is. Burn more coal!

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35332 "2017-10-18T15:27:03Z")

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Plants grow well in a green house, so presumably advancing the greenhouse effect will make for a wonderfully lush planet, and who wouldn’t like that. Venus has a runaway greenhouse effect and just look at [its lovely biodiversity](http://manapop.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/escape-on-venus-pb.jpg).

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35333 "2017-10-18T18:14:39Z")

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**GOP Lawmaker Says Emergency Rooms Should Be Able To Turn People Away**

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> Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.) proposed on Friday that hospital emergency rooms should be able to turn patients away to help keep health care costs down.  
> “I’m an emergency room nurse,” [edited to add: !!!] Black told MSNBC host Chuck Todd on Friday. “There are people that came into my emergency room that I, the nurse, was the first one to see them. I could have sent them to a walk-in clinic or their doctor the next day, but because of a law that Congress put into place to say, no, I have to treat everybody that walks into that emergency room.”  
> “You took away our ability to say, ‘No, an emergency room is not the proper place.’ And then, you put a burden on top of that to say, ‘You must do that,’” added the congresswoman, who is also running for governor of Tennessee.

Yeah, but:

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> At issue is the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act, which was signed into law by former President Ronald Reagan in 1986. It was a congressional response to stories of “patient dumping” ― hospitals would deny treatment to patients or send them elsewhere, usually because the individuals didn’t have insurance. Many of these patients were unemployed or were people of color.  
> Those transferred individuals were more likely to die, and the delayed care often jeopardized the patients’ health.  
> The law put a particular focus on pregnant women (hence “active labor” in the law’s name), to ensure that they would be able to deliver their babies and receive full care.  
> Changing the law, as Black advocates, would send America back to a time when hospitals can use their discretion to turn people away.

The problem with leaving things up to people’s discretion is that some people don’t have any.

> **[GOP Lawmaker Says Emergency Rooms Should Be Able To Turn People Away](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/diane-black-emergency-rooms_n_59e674cce4b0d0e4fe6bd0ee?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009)**
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> Back to the good old days.

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> Also, technically, no doctor or hospital is required to see anybody. But treating all patients is a requirement for hospitals using Medicare funds. So already, a doctor or hospital can turn people away ― as Black suggests they should be able to do ― they just won’t get to bill Medicare.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35334 "2017-10-18T19:08:49Z")

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There is some sense to the idea that it shouldn’t be hospitals which bear the brunt of ETMTALA. There are certainly arguments on both sides.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35335 "2017-10-18T19:22:26Z")

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Laura Ingraham thinks that Congresswoman Wilson in her story about Trump calling the grieving widow is a nutbag, because she wears a hat that looks like she took it out of Dolly Parton’s closet.

> **[Laura Ingraham: Congresswoman present for Trump call to military widow should...](https://www.mediamatters.org/laura-ingraham/laura-ingraham-congresswoman-present-trump-call-military-widow-should-be-ignored)**
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> From the October 18 edition of Courtside Entertainment Group’s The Laura Ingraham Show:

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35336 "2017-10-18T19:22:55Z")

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> [@](#):
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> There is some sense to the idea that it shouldn’t be hospitals which bear the brunt of ETMTALA. There are certainly arguments on both sides.

Isn’t that the kinda thing the ACA was designed for?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35337 "2017-10-18T19:41:25Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> Isn’t that the kinda thing the ACA was designed for?

Absoluteley. So that Mitt Romney – who should definitely have known better – couldn’t say of the uninsured and uninsurable that “they can go to the Emergency Rooms”  
There may indeed be arguments on both sides, but without Emergency Rooms taking in people, in the time before they had ETMTALA, as the article says, people _were_ being turned away without any recourse. That’s why the law was signed in the first place.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35338 "2017-10-18T20:04:40Z")

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Not to mention that the availability of ER’s has been one of the most popular Oppositionist arguments that we don’t \*need \*to guarantee affordable health care to anyone. They wouldn’t make liars of themselves, would they? Rhetorical question, btw.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35339 "2017-10-19T01:37:32Z")

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Can I interrupt this thread to ask a seven-grade question about the Web?

_ **Is there a search engine that will allow me** _ to search for “eight-grade”? No matter which buttons I click, the engines just show me hits on “eighth grade”. This would be fine, I suppose, if I were looking for material written by someone with the English skills of, well, an eighth-grader, _ **but I wanted to find out who writes “eight-grade.”** _ Google, Bing, Yahoo — they all interpret the search string “eight-grade” as asking for “eighth grade.” Google gives me a chance to click “Yes, I really wanted ‘eight-grade’”, but when I do, _it still shows results for ‘eighth grade.’_ :mad:

> [@eschereal](#):
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> This one could go into the **Clusterfuck** thread, but I will drop it here first. The Whitehouse Council on Environmental Quality will probably be headed by [this person](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438177/coal-clean-energy-it-gop-platform-righ),  
> “_Although now viewed by the EPA as dirty carbon pollution, carbon dioxide (CO2) lacks any of the characteristics of a real pollutant. CO2 is an odorless, invisible, and beneficial natural gas and the catalyst for photosynthesis, the most vital energy conversion in our biosphere. [COLOR=“Red”] **How soon we forget eight-grade science!** CO2’s life-amplifying potency is why greenhouses pump CO2 to levels over four times that of the natural concentration in the air we breathe.[/COLOR]_”
> 
> Goddam those creepy tree-huggers and AGW alarmists. More CO[sub]2[/sub]. Such great stuff it is. Burn more coal!

Remember the halcyon days way back in 2016? When crap like this would show up only in the stupidest Yahoo blogs? Now these words come out of the puke-holes of top government “scientists.” :smack:

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35340 "2017-10-19T01:39:19Z")

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I was given to believe a lot of the time, when search engines do that, they simply can’t find the results for the specific term you’re looking for. If they did, they’d show it.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35341 "2017-10-19T02:06:02Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Can I interrupt this thread to ask a seven-grade question about the Web?
> 
> _ **Is there a search engine that will allow me** _ to search for “eight-grade”? No matter which buttons I click, the engines just show me hits on “eighth grade”. This would be fine, I suppose, if I were looking for material written by someone with the English skills of, well, an eighth-grader, _ **but I wanted to find out who writes “eight-grade.”** _ Google, Bing, Yahoo — they all interpret the search string “eight-grade” as asking for “eighth grade.” Google gives me a chance to click “Yes, I really wanted ‘eight-grade’”, but when I do, _it still shows results for ‘eighth grade.’_ :mad:

Google works for this if you put “Eight-Grade” in quotes ["eight-grade" - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=%22eight-grade%22&nfpr=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZ_q_8y_vWAhUJ7iYKHbreAMYQvgUIJCgB&biw=1366&bih=659)

finds [https://www.teacherspayteachers.com/Store/Eight-Grade](https://www.teacherspayteachers.com/Store/Eight-Grade)  
and [https://jms-torrance-ca.schoolloop.com/cms/page\_view?d=x&piid=&vpid=1458814692619](https://jms-torrance-ca.schoolloop.com/cms/page_view?d=x&piid=&vpid=1458814692619) (which is titled “Eight Grade”)

Picking the “Books” opinion ["eight-grade" - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=%22eight-grade%22&nfpr=1&source=lnms&tbm=bks&biw=1366&bih=659)

gets books with “Eight Grade” like “Quality of the responses of eight-grade students”

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