# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1778
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35542 "2017-11-06T12:15:35Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > What makes him a good guy? The good guy with a gun, though he was too late to stop the massacre, arguably might have prevented further carnage elsewhere. I don’t think that you even need to bring in white/ex-military, as others did. The argument from the 2nd amendment absolutists seems to be that we must assume that anyone who wants to purchase somewhere between one and 1,000 weapons is a good guy/gal, right up until the moment they open fire on someone who society generally feels shouldn’t be shot (and people praying is right up there on that list, along with kids in school). ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35543 "2017-11-06T12:40:32Z")
OK this last one is better expressing the notion. Some of the other ones I found to be too damn close to ashattish gloating over a crime that involved the sort of people “we” dislike. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35544 "2017-11-06T13:16:55Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > I don’t think that you even need to bring in white/ex-military, as others did. The argument from the 2nd amendment absolutists seems to be that we must assume that anyone who wants to purchase somewhere between one and 1,000 weapons is a good guy/gal No, I think that’s a fairly accurate assessment. If you’re shot due to Carrying While Black, the NRA says “whoa there, let’s wait til all the facts come in!” ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35545 "2017-11-06T13:56:47Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > No, I think that’s a fairly accurate assessment. If you’re shot due to Carrying While Black, the NRA says “whoa there, let’s wait til all the facts come in!” Certainly don’t disagree with that. It’s just that it doesn’t need to be a racial thing (although it often is), and tying it to race can lead to a shutdown by people tired of constantly being called racists (whether they are or not). ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35546 "2017-11-06T15:50:58Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Certainly don’t disagree with that. It’s just that it doesn’t need to be a racial thing (although it often is), and tying it to race can lead to a shutdown by people tired of constantly being called racists (whether they are or not). How can one not bring bigotry into it, when the typical reaction to mass shootings is: 1. Black perp: – thug; 2. Mulsim perp: radical Islamic terrorist; 3. white perp – disturbed loner. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35547 "2017-11-06T15:57:44Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > How can one not bring bigotry into it, when the typical reaction to mass shootings is: > > 1. Black perp: – thug; > > 2. Mulsim perp: radical Islamic terrorist; > > 3. white perp – disturbed loner. Black perp: There’s something wrong with those people Muslim perp: There’s something wrong with those people White perp: He’s an outlier, there’s nothing wrong with white people in general ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35548 "2017-11-06T16:46:31Z")
Once again, not disagreeing that there is a strong racist component to reporting on shootings. I am looking forward to stories on the epidemic of white on white shootings - when are the leaders of the white community going to stand up and do something about it? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35549 "2017-11-06T17:02:20Z")
> [@Bill\_Door](#): > > I think the irony is that if you consider that the 26 dead were killed while actively praying you have to infer that prayer is demonstrably useless in these situations. I don’t know, maybe they just weren’t praying hard enough? Even people who believe prayer know it doesn’t work that way. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35550 "2017-11-06T17:14:25Z")
White perp: was he radicalized by muslims while serving in the middle east? I kid you not – that was from one of the dog-whistle Fox stations. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35551 "2017-11-06T17:16:23Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > White perp: was he radicalized by muslims while serving in the middle east? > > I kid you not – that was from one of the Fox stations. This is going to be hard for Fox - do we blame it on his apparent atheism, or is it because he is a Muslim? Decisions, decisions . . . ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35552 "2017-11-06T19:16:53Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > OK this last one is better expressing the notion. > > Some of the other ones I found to be too damn close to ashattish gloating over a crime that involved the sort of people “we” dislike. That’s bullshit and I didn’t even IMPLY that. I can’t help it if your mind goes that way. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35553 "2017-11-06T19:21:19Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > This is going to be hard for Fox - do we blame it on his apparent atheism, or is it because he is a Muslim? Decisions, decisions . . . Atheist Muslim, just like Obama. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35554 "2017-11-06T19:28:14Z")
All of this just underlines the growing cooperation of antifas and Muslims! Connect the dot, people! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35555 "2017-11-06T19:43:39Z")
Hans Fiene, who is a _ **pastor** _, and a regular contributor to the _The Federalist_, the right-wing website founded by John McCain’s son-in-law-to-be, says that the 26 people were murdered in church because God answered their prayers. > **[Conservative writer: God was 'answering prayers' of Texas victims by letting...](https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/conservative-writer-god-was-answering-prayers-of-texas-victims-by-letting-them-get-shot/#.WgCibkE4Nfc.twitter)** > > Hans Fiene, a Lutheran pastor who is also a regular contributor to the right-wing website The Federalist, has written a new column in which he explains that allowing 26 people to die at the hands of a crazed gunman at the First Baptist Church in... ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35556 "2017-11-06T20:50:38Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Hans Fiene, who is a _ **pastor** _, and a regular contributor to the _The Federalist_, the right-wing website founded by John McCain’s son-in-law-to-be, says that the 26 people were murdered in church because God answered their prayers. > [Conservative writer: God was 'answering prayers' of Texas victims by letting them get shot](https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/conservative-writer-god-was-answering-prayers-of-texas-victims-by-letting-them-get-shot/#.WgCibkE4Nfc.twitter) Holy. Crap. It’s M-F lunatics like this man who give God and religion a bad name. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35557 "2017-11-06T20:54:18Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Hans Fiene, who is a _ **pastor** _, and a regular contributor to the _The Federalist_, the right-wing website founded by John McCain’s son-in-law-to-be, says that the 26 people were murdered in church because God answered their prayers. > [Conservative writer: God was 'answering prayers' of Texas victims by letting them get shot](https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/conservative-writer-god-was-answering-prayers-of-texas-victims-by-letting-them-get-shot/#.WgCibkE4Nfc.twitter) > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Holy. Crap. > It’s M-F lunatics like this man who give God and religion a bad name. :smack: Did he specify _which_ God he worships? Kind of sounds as though it might be Cthulhu. In which case, it all makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35558 "2017-11-06T21:12:21Z")
Texas Attorney General: This shooting shows that more people should start carrying guns to church. > **[After Texas Massacre, The State's Attorney General Calls For More Guns At Church](https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-massacre-state-apos-attorney-112422029.html)** > > “This is going to happen again," Ken Paxton said. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35559 "2017-11-06T21:21:53Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Texas Attorney General: This shooting shows that more people should start carrying guns to church. > [After Texas Massacre, The State's Attorney General Calls For More Guns At Church](https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-massacre-state-apos-attorney-112422029.html) I hope the NRA sent him a nice gift basket. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35560 "2017-11-06T22:12:59Z")
Praise the lord and pass the ammunition I guess. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35561 "2017-11-06T22:20:57Z")
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