# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35642 "2017-11-13T12:09:20Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> 29% of Alabama voters say they are MORE likely to vote for Moore since the sexual misconduct allegations have come out (pdf file)  
> [http://winwithjmc.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Alabama-Senate-Executive-Summary-General-Election-Poll-2.pdf](http://winwithjmc.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Alabama-Senate-Executive-Summary-General-Election-Poll-2.pdf)

[I like to listen to this podcast on Alabaman mentality.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD3bGEFxGC0)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35643 "2017-11-13T13:17:20Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> 29% of Alabama voters say they are MORE likely to vote for Moore since the sexual misconduct allegations have come out (pdf file)  
> [http://winwithjmc.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Alabama-Senate-Executive-Summary-General-Election-Poll-2.pdf](http://winwithjmc.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Alabama-Senate-Executive-Summary-General-Election-Poll-2.pdf)

> [@septimus](#):
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> [I like to listen to this podcast on Alabaman mentality.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD3bGEFxGC0)

Can someone sum up the reasoning here (using the term loosely)? Thanks.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35644 "2017-11-13T13:32:47Z")

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Maybe they’re thinking the allegations are fake news created by George Soros, and they have to vote for Moore to defeat the libtards?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35645 "2017-11-13T13:58:37Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Can someone sum up the reasoning here (using the term loosely)? Thanks.

Something something something LIBTARD TEARS LOL.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35646 "2017-11-13T14:41:14Z")

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It’s tribal. “The Others have said something bad about someone in my tribe. I must defend them, even if objectively they have done something bad, because they are part of my tribe and defense against the Others takes priority over anything a tribe member may have done wrong.”

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35647 "2017-11-13T15:31:20Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Can someone sum up the reasoning here (using the term loosely)? Thanks.

\*… Your Cadillac  
has got a wheel in the ditch  
And a wheel on the track

… What are you doing Alabama?  
You got the rest of the union to help you along  
What’s going wrong?\*

I think that is a fairly adequate summary.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35648 "2017-11-13T15:44:58Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Can someone sum up the reasoning here (using the term loosely)? Thanks.

You could call them “deplorables” and it would be very fitting. They would even wear shirts proudly proclaiming they are deplorable. They are racists and it appears they like their men having sex with their underage daughters. You better keep away from their underage son though, that’s sick! ☹

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35649 "2017-11-13T15:53:06Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> You could call them “deplorables” and it would be very fitting. They would even wear shirts proudly proclaiming they are deplorable. They are racists and it appears they like their men having sex with their underage daughters. You better keep away from their underage son though, that’s sick! ☹

What’s even sicker is that Moore molested someone _outside_ the family.  
I don’t understand why he has _any_ support.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35650 "2017-11-13T16:04:00Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> What’s even sicker is that Moore molested someone _outside_ the family.  
> I don’t understand why he has _any_ support.

Perhaps that just shows how maverick-y he is?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35651 "2017-11-13T16:18:15Z")

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I find this hilarious, for some reason:

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/keurig-boycott-leads-to-people-smashing-their-machines/ar-BBEU42x?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/keurig-boycott-leads-to-people-smashing-their-machines/ar-BBEU42x?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp)

Yep, apparently some people are smashing up their own Keurig coffee machines because they are upset over the company pulling its ads from Sean Hannity’s show.

Hey, if they want to pointlessly waste a couple hundred bucks that way, more power to them. What really bakes my noodle is that I thought conservatives were more the percolator type.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35652 "2017-11-13T17:08:23Z")

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**Icarus** over in the concurrent Sean Hannity thread linked to this eye-opening and jaw-dropping op-ed describing how in some fundamentalist Christian cultures, mid-teen girl/adult man pairings are seen as not only “no big deal” but even **desirable** :

> [@Jesus Christ Sean Hannity.........](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-sean-hannity/801190/97):
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> Interesting opinion piece in the LA Times last weekend.
> 
> [http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-brightbill-roy-moore-evangelical-culture-20171110-story.html](http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-brightbill-roy-moore-evangelical-culture-20171110-story.html)

From the link:

> [@](#):
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> In that world, which Moore travels in and I grew up in, 14-year-old girls courting adult men isn’t uncommon.
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> I use the phrase “14-year-old girls courting adult men,” rather than “adult men courting 14-year-old girls,” for a reason: Evangelicals routinely frame these relationships in those terms. That’s how I was introduced to these relationships as a home-schooled teenager in the 1990s, and it’s the language that my friends and I would use to discuss girls we knew who were in parent-sanctioned relationships with older men. […]
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> “Duck Dynasty” star Phil Robertson advocated for adult men to marry 15- and 16-year-old girls and deemed age 20 too old because “you wait until they get to be 20 years old, the only picking that’s going to take place is your pocket.” Home-school leader Kevin Swanson, whose 2015 convention was attended by several Republican presidential candidates, defended Robertson on his radio show after the story broke. Advocating for child marriage hasn’t slowed down Robertson’s career. He just got a new show on the conservative digital network CRTV. […]
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> Much of the sexual abuse that takes place in Independent Fundamentalist Baptist, or IFB, churches involves adult men targeting 14- to 16-year-old girls. If caught, the teenage victim may be forced to repent the “sin” of having seduced an adult man. Former IFB megachurch pastor Jack Schaap argued that he should be released from prison after being convicted of molesting a 16-year-old girl, asserting that the “aggressiveness” of his victim “inhibited [his] impulse control.” In the wake of the Schaap case, numerous other stories emerged of sexual abuse cover-ups involving teenage girls at IFB churches. In another high-profile case, pregnant 15-year-old Tina Anderson, who was raped by a church deacon twice her age, was forced to confess her “sin” to the congregation.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35653 "2017-11-13T18:18:15Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> **Icarus** over in the concurrent Sean Hannity thread linked to this eye-opening and jaw-dropping op-ed describing how in some fundamentalist Christian cultures, mid-teen girl/adult man pairings are seen as not only “no big deal” but even **desirable** :
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> From the link:
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> :eek: :eek: :eek:

AARRGGHH!!! _\<runs screaming from the room!\>_

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35654 "2017-11-13T18:32:12Z")

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Mitch McConnell says he believes Roy Moore’s accusers, and Roy Moore should step aside.

> **[McConnell Says Roy Moore ‘Should Step Aside’: ‘I Believe The Women’](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/majority-leader-mcconnell-moore-step-aside)**
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> Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said Monday that Roy Moore should step aside from his campaign for the U.S. Senate following allegations that he pursued relationships with teenagers…

If anything, this will probably add fuel to Moore’s supporters, who probably see this as a sign their guy must be scaring the establishment. But McConnell also said he was “looking at” engineering a write-in campaign to provide a Republican alternative to Moore. I would imagine Luther Strange is the most likely candidate for that. If this happens, maybe it will split enough votes off from Moore to open up a window for Doug Jones.

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**Author:** ![ricksummon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ricksummon/32/3333_2.png) [@ricksummon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricksummon)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35655 "2017-11-13T18:48:19Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> I find this hilarious, for some reason:
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> [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/keurig-boycott-leads-to-people-smashing-their-machines/ar-BBEU42x?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp)
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> Yep, apparently some people are smashing up their own Keurig coffee machines because they are upset over the company pulling its ads from Sean Hannity’s show.

That reminds me of a quote from Dave Barry’s book **Dave Barry’s Guide to Japan** where he mentions people protesting Japanese imports by smashing a Japanese radio with a sledgehammer, assisted by a member of Congress.

_This was, of course, an extremely effective way of reducing Japanese imports, the only problem being that it’s stupid, because in order to smash a Japanese radio, you have to import it. Some smart Japanese company is probably doing a brisk business over here selling radios designed to smash in a dramatic and photogenic manner. This company also supplies the sledgehammer, and perhaps even the member of Congress._

😃

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**Author:** ![Scoobysnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Scoobysnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoobysnax)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35656 "2017-11-13T19:04:22Z")

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According to a [poll published this morning](http://www.al.com/news/huntsville/index.ssf/2017/11/roy_moore_holds_10-point_lead.html#incart_river_home?li_source=base&li_medium=default-widget), Moore holds a 10 point lead over Jones.

You can’t make this shit up.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35657 "2017-11-13T19:10:02Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> If this happens, maybe it will split enough votes off from Moore to open up a window for Doug Jones.

> [@Scoobysnax](#):
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> According to a [poll published this morning](http://www.al.com/news/huntsville/index.ssf/2017/11/roy_moore_holds_10-point_lead.html#incart_river_home?li_source=base&li_medium=default-widget), Moore holds a 10 point lead over Jones.

But 4 other polls show the race as tied (close enough to be in the margin of error). So a write-in campaign on the Republican side could make a real difference.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35658 "2017-11-13T19:10:43Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Mitch McConnell says he believes Roy Moore’s accusers, and Roy Moore should step aside.
> 
> [McConnell Says Roy Moore ‘Should Step Aside’: ‘I Believe The Women’ - TPM – Talking Points Memo](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/majority-leader-mcconnell-moore-step-aside)
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> If anything, this will probably add fuel to Moore’s supporters, who probably see this as a sign their guy must be scaring the establishment. But McConnell also said he was “looking at” engineering a write-in campaign to provide a Republican alternative to Moore. I would imagine Luther Strange is the most likely candidate for that. If this happens, maybe it will split enough votes off from Moore to open up a window for Doug Jones.

Agree: the best shot for a Democrat would be for Moore to stay in the race and face a write-in campaign. The worst thing to happen for Democrats now would be for Moore to drop out.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35659 "2017-11-13T19:17:09Z")

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Roy Moore’s wife is trying to collect evidence to prove that Roy’s accusers are being paid.  
[https://www.yahoo.com/news/roy-moore-apos-wife-kayla-174009011.html](https://www.yahoo.com/news/roy-moore-apos-wife-kayla-174009011.html)

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**Author:** ![Scoobysnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Scoobysnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoobysnax)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35660 "2017-11-13T19:23:09Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Agree: the best shot for a Democrat would be for Moore to stay in the race and face a write-in campaign. The worst thing to happen for Democrats now would be for Moore to drop out.

Which is why the GOP leadership is calling for Moore to dropout. With McCain going rogue, their hold on the senate is tenuous at best. With the old Christian right supporting Moore no matter what, a strong write-in campaign would be disastrous.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35661 "2017-11-13T20:27:46Z")

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> [@Scoobysnax](#):
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> Which is why the GOP leadership is calling for Moore to dropout. With McCain going rogue, their hold on the senate is tenuous at best. With the old Christian right supporting Moore no matter what, a strong write-in campaign would be disastrous.

They are actually asking the Republican Governor to unilaterally decide to postpone the election till they can deal with the problem. One wonders just how legal that would be. “Oh, we don’t like the way the polls are going, Hillary might actually win in Alabama, let’s postpone the election till we can dig up or make up more dirt.”

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