# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JKilez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@JKilez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKilez)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36042 "2017-12-26T20:22:20Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> He obviously hadn’t read it, because, although the headline says, “Why Orrin Hatch is Utahn of the Year”, it then goes on to criticize him viciously and begs him not to run for re-election.

He probably has, he is just confident that his constituency won’t.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36043 "2017-12-26T20:23:06Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> It’s been 19 hours since he tweeted. I’m astounded he hesn’t read it/had it brought to his attention.  
> Agreed, hilarious.

You assume that when he read the article, he took the comments about his positions as negatives.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36044 "2017-12-26T20:29:41Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> You assume that when he read the article, he took the comments about his positions as negatives.

Even if he’s proud to have no integrity, he also knows it’s not considered a compliment.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36045 "2017-12-26T21:07:05Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> It’s been 19 hours since he tweeted. I’m astounded he hesn’t read it/had it brought to his attention.  
> Agreed, hilarious.

Who knew reading was so hard?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36046 "2017-12-26T21:33:33Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Who knew reading was so hard?

Does Senator Hatch take his reading tips from the Golfer in Chief?

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36047 "2017-12-26T21:38:32Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Even if he’s proud to have no integrity, he also knows it’s not considered a compliment.

Here’s something I have a hard time grasping from the SLC Tribune editorial: they strongly imply that there was a quid pro quo: Hatch agrees to support Trump’s tax plan (I would have assumed he would have done so anyway, just on Republican “principle”) in exchange for Trump slashing the Utah national monuments.

Maybe it’s because the concept of \*reducing \*the size of a national monument is so unprecedented – I fail to understand why this is what Hatch was willing to sell his soul for.

All I can think of: Hatch secretly owns a uranium mine on the property. But that sounds more like a Scooby-Doo plot than real life.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36048 "2017-12-26T21:47:51Z")

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Maybe he’s got an ATV he’s been itching to use.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36049 "2017-12-26T21:48:17Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Here’s something I have a hard time grasping from the SLC Tribune editorial: they strongly imply that there was a quid pro quo: Hatch agrees to support Trump’s tax plan (I would have assumed he would have done so anyway, just on Republican “principle”) in exchange for Trump slashing the Utah national monuments.
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> Maybe it’s because the concept of \*reducing \*the size of a national monument is so unprecedented – I fail to understand why this is what Hatch was willing to sell his soul for.
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> All I can think of: Hatch secretly owns a uranium mine on the property. But that sounds more like a Scooby-Doo plot than real life.

He gets campaign contributions from the people planning on buying the mining rights.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36050 "2017-12-26T22:03:49Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> He gets campaign contributions from the people planning on buying the mining rights.

And votes from Utahn’s that wish to see their natural areas that are attracting tourism dollars to the state and communities be turned into barren wasteland for the profit of some out of state company.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36051 "2017-12-26T23:23:57Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> And votes from Utahn’s that wish to see their natural areas that are attracting tourism dollars to the state and communities be turned into barren wasteland for the profit of some out of state company.

TBF, to the naïve eye, many of Utah’s parks and monuments _already look like barren wastelands_. In which, to me, lies their appeal. There is much life going on in those rocks, spires, blobs and deserts – you just have to know how to look for it.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36052 "2017-12-26T23:28:13Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> TBF, to the naïve eye, many of Utah’s parks and monuments _already look like barren wastelands_. In which, to me, lies their appeal. There is much life going on in those rocks, spires, blobs and deserts – **you just have to know how to look for it**.

Look fast!

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36053 "2017-12-26T23:35:38Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> TBF, to the naïve eye, many of Utah’s parks and monuments _already look like barren wastelands_. In which, to me, lies their appeal. There is much life going on in those rocks, spires, blobs and deserts – you just have to know how to look for it.

Fair enough, I suppose I picked my adjectives poorly. Point is, it is currently in a largely unspoiled state, and I don’t see mining operations and other forms of resource exploitation improving upon it.

After a few out of state mining companies make some money off the land, it’ll no longer be as attractive to tourism. I see this as a loss for Utah in particular, and the US as a whole.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36054 "2017-12-27T13:16:22Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> After a few out of state mining companies make some money off the land, it’ll no longer be as attractive to tourism. I see this as a loss for Utah in particular, and the US as a whole.

Well, you are not adding in all the new ATV trails that can now be used!

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36055 "2017-12-27T16:55:13Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Is this the place to note that the founder of Papa John’s Pizza has been forced out as CEO because of his idiotic comments about the NFL and “Take A Knee?”
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> Pig-fucker.

I always enjoy when CEOs, all high and mighty and full of themselves, decide that spouting off their ideology is a GREAT way to get their names in the paper, raise their public profile, stroke their ego to climax; and will in no way impact their business.

Doesn’t matter what side of the political fence you’re on, you’re a CEO, not a politician. You represent a company that needs all of it’s customers, not just your little slice of Americana. STFU, no one cares what you think about anything but your product.

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36056 "2017-12-27T17:35:33Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> . . .Doesn’t matter what side of the political fence you’re on, you’re a CEO, not a politician. You represent a company that needs all of it’s customers, not just your little slice of Americana. STFU, no one cares what you think about anything but your product.

How is this any different from what “Papa John” was saying about the players?

mc

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36057 "2017-12-27T18:45:37Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> How is this any different from what “Papa John” was saying about the players?

**Chimera** isn’t a CEO of a company that relies on the goodwill of the people his public opinion would piss off.

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36058 "2017-12-27T18:55:36Z")

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IIRC **Chimera** does support the NFL players potentially pissing on the goodwill their customers, tho.  
So why is what’s good for the goose not good for the gander?

mc

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36059 "2017-12-27T19:19:48Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> How is this any different from what “Papa John” was saying about the players?
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> mc

Players are the CEO’s of the NFL?

If the Papa John’s pizza delivery guy has a confederate/gay pride flag on his car, are you going to hold that against Papa John’s in general?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36060 "2017-12-27T19:27:35Z")

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Paul Nehlen, the opponent of Paul Ryan’s re-election from the far right, is so far out there, he’s even too extreme for Breitbart.

> **[Bannon adviser: Paul Ryan challenger Paul Nehlen is 'dead to us' after...](https://money.cnn.com/2017/12/27/media/paul-nehlen-steve-bannon-breitbart/index.html)**
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> Breitbart cuts ties with Paul Nehlen, the far-right activist challenging Paul Ryan for his congressional seat who has received extremely favorable coverage from Breitbart in the past.

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36061 "2017-12-27T19:40:22Z")

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(sigh)  
so when an employee exercises their freedom of expression in a way that potentially angers the company’s customers and possibly affects the bottom line - that’s good.  
but, when a CEO exercises his freedom of expression in a way that potentially angers his customers and possibly affects the bottom line - he should just shut the fuck up?

mc

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