# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1804
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36062 "2017-12-27T19:56:10Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > (sigh) > so when an employee exercises their freedom of expression in a way that potentially angers the company’s customers and possibly affects the bottom line - that’s good. > but, when a CEO exercises his freedom of expression in a way that potentially angers his customers and possibly affects the bottom line - he should just shut the fuck up? > > mc (sigh right back) The CEO doesn’t _need_ to shut up, we have freedom of expression in this country, however the shareholders may indeed want him to shut the fuck up. Which seems to be the case with Papa Johns current corporate shakeup. The shareholders are, in fact, able to tell the CEO to shut the fuck up. A single NFL player does not speak for his entire team, let alone the entire NFL. You can certainly agitate for that player to be disciplined for the speech he decided to use, but these are clearly different things. I’m wondering why you can’t see the difference. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36063 "2017-12-27T19:58:14Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > (sigh) > so when an employee exercises their freedom of expression in a way that potentially angers the company’s customers and possibly affects the bottom line - that’s good. > but, when a CEO exercises his freedom of expression in a way that potentially angers his customers and possibly affects the bottom line - he should just shut the fuck up? > > mc You are making value judgements here, when there are none to be made. When an employee exercise their freedom of expression, that’s their right, good or bad. When a CEO expresses their same freedom, that is their right too, good or bad. Now that you see that both have rights to expression, and that ability is not an inherently good or bad thing, you should be able to tell what other differences there are between employees and owners. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36064 "2017-12-27T20:25:40Z")
did you even read what i was responding to? **Chimera** told the PJ CEO to STFU. I was asking how that is different from the PJ CEO from telling the NFL players to STFU. Why is it not ok for PJ CEO to say STFU but it is OK for \*\*Chimera \*\*to say it? Let me put it this way: **Chimera** seemed to be happy that PJ CEO’s statements (that he presumably disagrees with) came back to bite him in the ass. That he shoulda just keep his opinions to himself. But. when others, including PJ CEO, were suggesting that the players stance should be used against them, that THEY should just kept their opinions to themselves many were outraged. How is what \*\*Chimera \*\*said different from what PJ CEO said? mc ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36065 "2017-12-27T20:37:15Z")
Holy crap. Yes all of us can read. Now that literacy has been established let’s move on. **Chimera** does not represent a corporation with shareholders that would rather he not express those views. Clearly the (former) PJ CEO did represent a corporation with shareholders that have, in fact, told him that expressing his views have harmed the bottom line of the company, and therefore he is no longer the CEO. Both **Chimera** and the (former) PJ CEO are able to express their opinions, but only one of them needed to worry about the company that they represent. As far as I know **Chimera** is not the CEO of a company so how would you suggest he face the same consequences? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36066 "2017-12-27T20:49:54Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > How is what \*\*Chimera \*\*said different from what PJ CEO said? > > mc Mr. “John” is welcome to say any damn thing he pleases, it is a free country, and short of inciting violence, his expressions are perfectly legal. Chimera also is free to express him(/her?)self, even if that expression if mocking a CEO who has stuck his foot in his mouth. If John is in a position that what he says may turn away customers from his restaurants and franchisee, then he needs to be careful about what he says. He is the head and defacto spokesmen for the company. He represents its values and positions. Chimera represents only Chimera. Other than that, the differences in what they said are many and vaired. Perhaps you would like to puruse the Papa John’s offical statements regarding the NFL protests, and demonstrate any similarties whatseover to what Chimera said. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36067 "2017-12-27T20:58:45Z")
NM I just realized this is the pit, where recreational outrage, hypocrisy, and willful misunderstanding rule the day. forget I said anything. mc ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36068 "2017-12-27T21:08:37Z")
That won’t be a problem ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36069 "2017-12-27T21:12:00Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > I just realized this is the pit, where recreational outrage, hypocrisy, and willful misunderstanding rule the day. I laughed. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36070 "2017-12-28T01:05:08Z")
> [@wonky](#): > > I laughed. Me too but it was because I read it as “rue the day”, which makes it a hilarious flounce. > [@Chris Knight](#): > > “Rue the day”; who talks like that? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36071 "2017-12-28T06:45:17Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > NM > > I just realized this is the pit, where recreational outrage, hypocrisy, and willful misunderstanding rule the day. …to say nothing of hilariously ironic displays of a lack of self-awareness. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36072 "2017-12-28T12:53:50Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Me too but it was because I read it as “rue the day”, which makes it a hilarious flounce. Which makes me wonder what ever happened to the poster **Rue DaDay** , or however it was spelled. ---
**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36073 "2017-12-28T13:22:22Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > NM > > I just realized this is the pit, where recreational outrage, hypocrisy, and willful misunderstanding rule the day. forget I said anything. > > mc It took you 36,059 posts to realize this thread is in the the pit? Kinda slow on the uptake aren’t ya? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36074 "2017-12-28T15:14:04Z")
Roy “Sore Loser” Moore is still [stuck in the “denial” stage](http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/28/politics/roy-moore-files-complaint/index.html): > [@](#): > > …Moore and his campaign filed the complaint in the Circuit Court of Montgomery, Alabama, listing several allegations and called for “a new special election.” > His complaint alleges that out-of-state residents had been allowed to vote and that election fraud experts had concluded through statistical analyses that fraud had taken place. One of the election experts Moore cites is Richard Charnin, who also posts about JFK conspiracy theories and the murder of DNC staffer, Seth Rich… He throws in the kitchen sink… > [@](#): > > …In his election complaint, Moore stated that he took a polygraph test over the sexual misconduct allegations made against him by Leigh Corfman, Beverly Nelson and Tina Johnson. Moore says that he took the polygraph test after the December 12 election, according to his affidavit, included in the complaint… …and scrapes the gunk out of the garbage disposal and throws that in too, filing a Breitbart article (complete with comment section) as an appendix to his [complaint](https://www.scribd.com/document/367998949/Roy-Moore-Complaint). ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36075 "2017-12-28T16:33:24Z")
He’s still taking campaign contributions from the faithful. Also, for his foundation’s whore chest. “War chest”, sorry, slip of the keyboard. He doesn’t need money for hookers to “get some”, lollipops are pretty cheap. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36076 "2017-12-28T19:15:07Z")
One of Roy Moore’s lawyers is a JFK/Seth Rich murder conspiracy theorist > **[In Election Complaint, Moore Relies on ‘Expert’ Who is JFK and Seth Rich...](https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/in-effort-to-delay-vote-certification-roy-moore-uses-election-expert-who-is-jfk-and-seth-rich-conspiracy-theorist/)** > > Late Wednesday night, Roy Moore filed a complaint alleging "systematic voter fraud" in Alabama's special election, and asked a judge to delay certifying the results. Another one is a Jews run the world conspiracy theorist > **[Alabama certifies Doug Jones’s victory over Roy Moore in Senate election](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/12/28/roy-moore-asks-alabama-court-for-a-new-election/?utm_term=.99a961414de3)** > > His lawsuit cites rumors of election fraud that have already been investigated and refuted by the Alabama secretary of state. I wonder which one of those is their pet Jewish lawyer. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36077 "2017-12-28T20:30:09Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > One of Roy Moore’s lawyers is a JFK/Seth Rich murder conspiracy theorist > [In Election Complaint, Moore Relies on ‘Expert’ Who is JFK and Seth Rich Conspiracy Theorist | Law & Crime](https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/in-effort-to-delay-vote-certification-roy-moore-uses-election-expert-who-is-jfk-and-seth-rich-conspiracy-theorist/) > > Another one is a Jews run the world conspiracy theorist > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/12/28/roy-moore-asks-alabama-court-for-a-new-election/?utm\_term=.99a961414de3](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/12/28/roy-moore-asks-alabama-court-for-a-new-election/?utm_term=.99a961414de3) > > I wonder which one of those is their pet Jewish lawyer. He has three experts: one who can read, one who can write, and one to keep an eye on the two dangerous intellectuals. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36078 "2017-12-29T04:04:40Z")
Sessions Says to Courts: Go Ahead, Jail People Because They’re Poor > **[Opinion | Sessions Says to Courts: Go Ahead, Jail People Because They’re Poor...](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/28/opinion/sessions-says-to-courts-go-ahead-jail-people-because-theyre-poor.html)** > > Ferguson’s debtors’ prisons devastated its black community. The attorney general wants to keep it that way. > [@](#): > > Last week, Attorney General Jeff Sessions retracted an Obama-era guidance to state courts that was meant to end debtors’ prisons, where people who are too poor to pay fines are sent. This practice is blatantly unconstitutional, and the guidance had helped jump-start reform around the country. Its withdrawal is the latest sign that the federal government is retreating from protecting civil rights for the most vulnerable among us… As long as we’re returning to Dickensian times, why don’t we put children back to work in factories and coal mines, too? That way they can make a little money, and we can stop wasting taxpayer funds on schools. Win-win. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36079 "2017-12-29T04:10:35Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > {…} As long as we’re returning to Dickensian times, why don’t we put children back to work in factories and coal mines, too? That way they can make a little money, and we can stop wasting taxpayer funds on schools. Win-win. May I suggest that your Proposal is too Modest? CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36080 "2017-12-29T04:34:50Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > May I suggest that your Proposal is too Modest? > > CMC fnord! Well done ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36081 "2017-12-29T04:41:07Z")
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