# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2018, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36142 "2018-01-02T23:52:53Z")

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You thought you were done hearing about Michelle Bachmann? [You thought wrong](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/watch-michele-bachmann-says-shes-consulting-with-god-on-whether-to-run-for-al-frankens-senate-seat/). She’s consulting with her top campaign adviser, God, about running for Al Franken’s Senate seat.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36143 "2018-01-03T00:24:46Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> You thought you were done hearing about Michelle Bachmann? [You thought wrong](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/watch-michele-bachmann-says-shes-consulting-with-god-on-whether-to-run-for-al-frankens-senate-seat/). She’s consulting with her top campaign adviser, God, about running for Al Franken’s Senate seat.

Is this the same God that told her to run for president in 2012? Considering how well that went for her, I’d be looking for a new consultant.

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**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36144 "2018-01-03T00:32:40Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> If Wikileaks deliberately gathers and publishes incriminating documents from one party (or viewpoint, etc.) but not another, that’s as misleading as any other sort of biased reporting.

I’m okay with that. If I want the other side of the story, I’ll find an article from the 1,531 other print outlets talking about how Edward Snowden is a traitor, NSA spying is necessary for our safety and it’s really not as bad as they’re making it out to be, and it’s not torture, it’s enhanced interrogation and we have to do it or the terrorists win. Outliers like Wikileaks (when they actually do their work of verifying their sources, which they do) provide a necessary counterbalance to the standard narrative.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36145 "2018-01-03T00:41:46Z")

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> [@AI\_Proofreader](#):
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> I’m okay with that. If I want the other side of the story, I’ll find an article from the 1,531 other print outlets talking about how Edward Snowden is a traitor, NSA spying is necessary for our safety and it’s really not as bad as they’re making it out to be, and it’s not torture, it’s enhanced interrogation and we have to do it or the terrorists win.

I can think of plenty of outlets that neither proclaim any of these things nor indulge in Snowden’s obvious pro-russian bias.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36146 "2018-01-03T01:47:33Z")

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Not an actual Republican pol or Media personality but I don’t know where else to put this so here goes…  
[Pizzagate is still alive and well.](https://www.pedestrian.tv/entertainment/teigen-pizzagate-conspiracy/)

Apparently,

(Baby dressed up like alice in wonderland) + (pizza emoji) = Satanic Pedophile pimping out her two-year-old.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36147 "2018-01-03T02:30:44Z")

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> [@AI\_Proofreader](#):
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> I’m okay with that. If I want the other side of the story, I’ll find an article from the 1,531 other print outlets talking about how Edward Snowden is a traitor, NSA spying is necessary for our safety and it’s really not as bad as they’re making it out to be, and it’s not torture, it’s enhanced interrogation and we have to do it or the terrorists win. Outliers like Wikileaks (when they actually do their work of verifying their sources, which they do) provide a necessary counterbalance to the standard narrative.

I don’t see that as being the other side of this story. Real balance would be if there was a group hacking Republican’s and Trump’s e-mails and putting them on line, and that isn’t happening. Or at the very least, get Wikileaks to drop any “we open governments” bullshit and admit that they’re happy not to look into the secrets of groups that they like.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36148 "2018-01-03T02:41:23Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> You thought you were done hearing about Michelle Bachmann? [You thought wrong](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/watch-michele-bachmann-says-shes-consulting-with-god-on-whether-to-run-for-al-frankens-senate-seat/). She’s consulting with her top campaign adviser, God, about running for Al Franken’s Senate seat.

As a Minnesotan, I say “ **Go for it, Ms. Crazypants!** ”

Frank(en)ly, I don’t think she’d make it past the primary. She may have been able to keep being re-elected in the most racist area of the state (Cambridge-St.Cloud area), but she isn’t going to get the Republican nod.

Fuck, I think _I_ could run against her and win.

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**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36149 "2018-01-03T04:28:24Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I don’t see that as being the other side of this story. Real balance would be if there was a group hacking Republican’s and Trump’s e-mails and putting them on line, and that isn’t happening. Or at the very least, get Wikileaks to drop any “we open governments” bullshit and admit that they’re happy not to look into the secrets of groups that they like.

[Sarah Palin’s Emails Leaked By WikiLeaks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_material_published_by_WikiLeaks#Sarah_Palin's_Yahoo!_email_account_contents)  
[Republican Senator’s Campaign Contributors Leaked by WikiLeaks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_material_published_by_WikiLeaks#Contributors_to_Coleman_campaign)

Take a look at the whole list in the wiki… I think the narrative of WikiLeaks being partisan hacks who only release things to attack the DNC is a lot of sour grapes from the 2016 election, and a gross oversimplification.

If anything, WikiLeaks should be the natural _ally_ of the left because the things they tend to expose - war crimes, prisoner mistreatment, torture, mass surveillance programs, environmental disasters and toxic dumping, etc - all tend to be things the left is universally opposed to, and the right generally looks the other way on when they aren’t tacitly in support of it.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36150 "2018-01-03T06:26:40Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> You thought you were done hearing about Michelle Bachmann? [You thought wrong](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/watch-michele-bachmann-says-shes-consulting-with-god-on-whether-to-run-for-al-frankens-senate-seat/). She’s consulting with her top campaign adviser, God, about running for Al Franken’s Senate seat.

Hypocrite Bachmann attempts to follow Hypocrite Moore’s attempt at a Senate seat while invoking God. Republican Party attempts to ignore God’s voice shouting down, “Fuck no!” yet again.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36151 "2018-01-03T12:21:38Z")

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> [@AI\_Proofreader](#):
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> If anything, WikiLeaks should be the natural _ally_ of the left because the things they tend to expose - war crimes, prisoner mistreatment, torture, mass surveillance programs, environmental disasters and toxic dumping, etc - all tend to be things the left is universally opposed to, and the right generally looks the other way on when they aren’t tacitly in support of it.

It _should_ be, and as a matter of fact, Democracy Now used to regularly report on WikiLeaks updates. Now that they’ve been revealed as a complete Russian puppet, not so much.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36152 "2018-01-03T13:30:44Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> As a Minnesotan, I say “ **Go for it, Ms. Crazypants!** ”
> 
> Frank(en)ly, I don’t think she’d make it past the primary. She may have been able to keep being re-elected in the most racist area of the state (Cambridge-St.Cloud area), but she isn’t going to get the Republican nod.
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> Fuck, I think _I_ could run against her and win.

I want to believe you, but my childlike faith in the goodness of the universe has been shattered.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36153 "2018-01-03T20:49:16Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> You thought you were done hearing about Michelle Bachmann? [You thought wrong](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/watch-michele-bachmann-says-shes-consulting-with-god-on-whether-to-run-for-al-frankens-senate-seat/). She’s consulting with her top campaign adviser, God, about running for Al Franken’s Senate seat.

The entertainment value in this is worth it.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36154 "2018-01-03T23:14:05Z")

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> [@AI\_Proofreader](#):
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> [Sarah Palin’s Emails Leaked By WikiLeaks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_material_published_by_WikiLeaks#Sarah_Palin's_Yahoo!_email_account_contents)  
> [Republican Senator’s Campaign Contributors Leaked by WikiLeaks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_material_published_by_WikiLeaks#Contributors_to_Coleman_campaign)
> 
> Take a look at the whole list in the wiki… I think the narrative of WikiLeaks being partisan hacks who only release things to attack the DNC is a lot of sour grapes from the 2016 election, and a gross oversimplification.
> 
> If anything, WikiLeaks should be the natural _ally_ of the left because the things they tend to expose - war crimes, prisoner mistreatment, torture, mass surveillance programs, environmental disasters and toxic dumping, etc - all tend to be things the left is universally opposed to, and the right generally looks the other way on when they aren’t tacitly in support of it.

What in the world does behavior back in 2008 have to do with the current issue? In 2016, they specifically leaked the DNC emails. Assange himself made it clear he was extremely anti-Clinton. Back in November of this year, we found that [Assange was in contact with Trump Jr](https://www.avclub.com/julian-assange-has-been-all-over-donald-trump-jr-s-dms-1820415800).

Wikileaks took a side in the 2016 election. They collaborated with Russia to try and stop Clinton from becoming president of the US. They specifically avoided anything that would hurt the other side.

Wikileaks became explicitly political, rather than remaining neutral. They did not merely leak all the information they had, but had an explicit agenda, as Assange made clear.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36155 "2018-01-03T23:15:48Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> I want to believe you, but my childlike faith in the goodness of the universe has been shattered.

_You are a fluke  
Of the universe  
You have no right to be here  
And whether you can hear it or not  
The universe  
Is laughing  
Behind your back_

Give Up

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36156 "2018-01-03T23:54:02Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> _You are a fluke  
> Of the universe  
> You have no right to be here  
> And whether you can hear it or not  
> The universe  
> Is laughing  
> Behind your back_
> 
> Give Up

Linkiness : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey6ugTmCYMk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey6ugTmCYMk)

(Late at night, I could hear an AM station that carried the “National Lampoon Radio Hour Half Hour”; this is so much more entertaining if you were already sick of “Desiderata”…)

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36157 "2018-01-04T00:45:08Z")

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> **[Trump dissolves voter-fraud commission, blames states](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-dissolves-voter-fraud-commission-blames-states-2018-01-03)**
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> President Donald Trump dissolved his controversial voter-fraud commission late Wednesday, blaming states for not providing enough information. "Despite...

Hot take from Agent Orange:

President Donald Trump dissolved his controversial voter-fraud commission late Wednesday, blaming states for not providing enough information. “Despite substantial evidence of voter fraud, many states have refused to provide the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity with basic information relevant to its inquiry,” Trump said in a statement. “Rather than engage in endless legal battles at taxpayer expense, today I signed an executive order to dissolve the Commission.”

Unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud - “Waaaa, Hillary did not beat me in popular vote.”

States fault - or maybe protection of voter information.

Didn’t give vice-Dotard information - or give to noted voter suppression champions such as "Kris Kobach, the Republican Secretary of State of Kansas, who is also now running for Kansas governor. Along with Kobach, three other commissioners have extensive backgrounds in voter suppression — Hans von Spakovsky of the Heritage Foundation, J. Christian Adams, president of the Public Interest Legal Foundation, and former Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell

Endless legal battles - The commission hasn’t turned over any documents to Dunlap, one of four Democrats on the 11-member commission. It hasn’t met since September, but it [del]is[/del] was expected to issue a report early this year. Court ruled that the Republicans did indeed have to share information with democratic members.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36158 "2018-01-04T02:19:39Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> The entertainment value in this is worth it.

a lot of people said that throughout a lot of 2016 …

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36159 "2018-01-04T02:48:01Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> [Trump dissolves voter-fraud commission, blames states - MarketWatch](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-dissolves-voter-fraud-commission-blames-states-2018-01-03)
> 
> Hot take from Agent Orange:
> 
> President Donald Trump dissolved his controversial voter-fraud commission late Wednesday, blaming states for not providing enough information. “Despite substantial evidence of voter fraud, many states have refused to provide the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity with basic information relevant to its inquiry,” Trump said in a statement. “Rather than engage in endless legal battles at taxpayer expense, today I signed an executive order to dissolve the Commission.”
> 
> Unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud - “Waaaa, Hillary did not beat me in popular vote.”
> 
> States fault - or maybe protection of voter information.
> 
> Didn’t give vice-Dotard information - or give to noted voter suppression champions such as "Kris Kobach, the Republican Secretary of State of Kansas, who is also now running for Kansas governor. Along with Kobach, three other commissioners have extensive backgrounds in voter suppression — Hans von Spakovsky of the Heritage Foundation, J. Christian Adams, president of the Public Interest Legal Foundation, and former Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell
> 
> Endless legal battles - The commission hasn’t turned over any documents to Dunlap, one of four Democrats on the 11-member commission. It hasn’t met since September, but it [del]is[/del] was expected to issue a report early this year. **Court ruled that the Republicans did indeed have to share information with democratic members.**

This is probably the most disturbing part. That the Repub. members were _forced_ to share with the Dems.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36160 "2018-01-04T03:17:48Z")

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Hey trump. Steve Bannon, that great guy you made a member of the security counsel. Remember him? He remembers you. Enjoy swimming with those sharks moron.

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**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36161 "2018-01-04T03:29:17Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> This is probably the most disturbing part. That the Repub. members were _forced_ to share with the Dems.

IMO that was kind of the whole point of asking for the voter data; to gain an upper hand over the Democrats with access to info on millions of voters the Democrats may not have for 2018 and 2020.

At least, for the people who actually did the legwork in this “election fraud commission.” In the mind of Trump it’s entirely possible, even likely, that he’s deluded himself into believing 3 million illegal votes were cast because \*of course \*he couldn’t have lost the popular vote.

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