# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36162 "2018-01-05T06:43:20Z")

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Ivanka wants to be the first female president.

> **[Ivanka Trump Privately Mocks Her Dad's Hair and Aspires to Be 'First Woman...](https://people.com/politics/ivanka-trump-dad-hair-first-woman-president/)**
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> Ivanka Trump wants to make presidential history, according to a controversial upcoming book

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36163 "2018-01-05T13:34:20Z")

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The thought of the Trumps becoming a political dynasty makes me want Cthulhu to eat the planet even more.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36164 "2018-01-06T00:19:36Z")

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“Even more”?

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36165 "2018-01-06T00:32:24Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> “Even more”?

Presumably they meant that their existing desire to see the planet be eaten would increase, but I can’t disprove the possibility that an eldritch abomination has been progressively turning upwards of 30% of the population insane for years, and has physically eaten southern Florida.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36166 "2018-01-06T03:30:01Z")

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Not sure where to put this, but:

Roy Moore’s accuser’s house has burned down. Arson suspected.

> **[Roy Moore accuser's home burns down; arson suspected](https://www.foxnews.com/us/roy-moore-accusers-home-burns-down-arson-suspected)**
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> Authorities in Alabama said Friday they had launched an arson investigation after the home of a woman who accused Roy Moore of groping her nearly two decades ago burned to the ground Wednesday.

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**Author:** ![Hung\_Mung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hung\_Mung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hung_Mung)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36167 "2018-01-08T10:56:59Z")

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Two steps forward, three steps back for Alabama.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36168 "2018-01-08T21:32:00Z")

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[From the “WTF were you thinking” file](https://apnews.com/ab9cb8a8cf68494581e9fc6379f8e33c/White-Kansas-lawmaker-says-blacks-'responded-worst'-to-drugs):

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> At the meeting, [State Rep. Steve] Alford [(R-Ulysses)]referenced a time in the 1930s when marijuana was prohibited.
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> “What was the reason they did that?” he asked a crowd of about 60 people, none of whom were black. “One of the reasons why — I hate to say it — is the African Americans, they were basically users and they responded the worst off to those drugs. It’s because of their character makeup — their genetics and that. And so basically what we’re trying to do, is we’re trying to do a complete reverse of the people not remembering what’s happened in the past.”

[Video here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IVNkUr8t4k), in case you doubt.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36169 "2018-01-09T09:37:05Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Not sure where to put this, but:
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> Roy Moore’s accuser’s house has burned down. Arson suspected.
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> [Roy Moore accuser's home burns down; arson suspected | Fox News](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/05/roy-moore-accusers-home-burns-down-arson-suspected.html)

There have also been recent fires at the Clintons’ place in NY, and at Trump Tower. Weird, but not a SRIOTD.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36170 "2018-01-09T12:56:11Z")

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[Republican Rep. Steve Alford says we need to ban pot because African Americans can’t handle it safely.](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-alford-kansas-marijuana-black-people_us_5a53e133e4b01e1a4b18a12b?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009)  
It’s in their genes, y’know. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Strassia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@Strassia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strassia)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36171 "2018-01-09T13:32:52Z")

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Almost every drug criminalization law on the books was passed for racists reasons. When white people were getting addicted to opiates a century ago, the response was labeling laws and treatment. Some Southern Senator claims it is driving blacks to come after white women, lock them up!  
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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36172 "2018-01-09T13:35:16Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [Republican Rep. Steve Alford says we need to ban pot because African Americans can’t handle it safely.](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-alford-kansas-marijuana-black-people_us_5a53e133e4b01e1a4b18a12b?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009)  
> It’s in their genes, y’know. :rolleyes:

So now the Repubs are believing science? I’m certain Alford will cite the study concerning the genetic weakness of African Americans.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36173 "2018-01-09T14:29:57Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> So now the Repubs are believing science? I’m certain Alford will cite the study concerning the genetic weakness of African Americans.

From The Journal of Well, Just _Look_ At Them!

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36174 "2018-01-09T19:22:46Z")

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Joe Arpaio has announced his candidacy for the Senate. Talk about stupid Republican ideas.  
[Ex-Arizona sheriff Arpaio says he will run for Senate](https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-arizona-sheriff-arpaio-says-running-u-senate-163717938.html)?

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36175 "2018-01-10T02:59:17Z")

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Texas appears to be close to passing a bill that would essentially require women to buy insurance before having an abortion, even if it’s the result of rape.

[https://ourvoiceny.com/texas-house-representatives-bill-women-buy-rape-insurance/](https://ourvoiceny.com/texas-house-representatives-bill-women-buy-rape-insurance/)

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36176 "2018-01-10T06:06:42Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Texas appears to be close to passing a bill that would essentially require women to buy insurance before having an abortion, even if it’s the result of rape.
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> [https://ourvoiceny.com/texas-house-representatives-bill-women-buy-rape-insurance/](https://ourvoiceny.com/texas-house-representatives-bill-women-buy-rape-insurance/)

But weren’t these the same people who were arguing that forcing people to purchase health insurance was the worst thing ever and akin to slavery?

I’m hoping people bring that up in the resulting lawsuits.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36177 "2018-01-10T14:58:28Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Texas appears to be close to passing a bill that would essentially require women to buy insurance before having an abortion, even if it’s the result of rape.
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> [https://ourvoiceny.com/texas-house-representatives-bill-women-buy-rape-insurance/](https://ourvoiceny.com/texas-house-representatives-bill-women-buy-rape-insurance/)

Considering that the bill appears to be close to passing both houses of the Texas legislature, this might very well be the dumbest idea in the entire (8 year) history of this thread.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36178 "2018-01-10T15:18:41Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Considering that the bill appears to be close to passing both houses of the Texas legislature, this might very well be the dumbest idea in the entire (8 year) history of this thread.

Maybe it would fail if people started calling “Prenatal Obamacare”?

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36179 "2018-01-10T16:54:28Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Texas appears to be close to passing a bill that would essentially require women to buy insurance before having an abortion, even if it’s the result of rape.
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> [https://ourvoiceny.com/texas-house-representatives-bill-women-buy-rape-insurance/](https://ourvoiceny.com/texas-house-representatives-bill-women-buy-rape-insurance/)

First, this bill is not “close to passing”; it was passed and [signed into law](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-texas-abortion/texas-governor-signs-bill-to-limit-insurance-coverage-for-abortions-idUSKCN1AV2F4) by Texas Governor Greg Abbott back in August.

Second, the bill does not _require_ women to buy insurance before having an abortion. What it does is require the purchase of supplemental insurance coverage by women who want a (possible) abortion paid for by insurance rather than out of pocket. The rationale for this, on the part of the conservatives who passed it, is that people who oppose abortion on moral or religious grounds should not have to subsidize it.

The law is an abomination, yet another disgusting attempt by conservative assholes to make abortions more difficult and more expensive. And it contains no exception for rape or incest. It also effectively makes health care more expensive for women, and disproportionately screws poor women. In other words, it’s a fairly standard piece of Texas legislation.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36180 "2018-01-10T16:55:42Z")

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n/m, edit addressed my question.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36181 "2018-01-10T18:54:54Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> First, this bill is not “close to passing”; it was passed and [signed into law](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-texas-abortion/texas-governor-signs-bill-to-limit-insurance-coverage-for-abortions-idUSKCN1AV2F4) by Texas Governor Greg Abbott back in August.
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> Second, the bill does not _require_ women to buy insurance before having an abortion. What it does is require the purchase of supplemental insurance coverage by women who want a (possible) abortion paid for by insurance rather than out of pocket. The rationale for this, on the part of the conservatives who passed it, is that people who oppose abortion on moral or religious grounds should not have to subsidize it.
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> The law is an abomination, yet another disgusting attempt by conservative assholes to make abortions more difficult and more expensive. And it contains no exception for rape or incest. It also effectively makes health care more expensive for women, and disproportionately screws poor women. In other words, it’s a fairly standard piece of Texas legislation.

So this is insurance you have to carry if you are a woman, and you may get an abortion in the future, even if not pregnant now?

That’s pretty fucked up. Who is subsidizing the abortion, anyway? I can almost understand people’s reluctance to let their tax dollars go towards abortion (but I don’t like my tax dollars going for war, what can you do), but demanding that the private insurance industry separate out their insurance and require supplemental?

It would seem to me that the insurance companies would love to pay for an abortion rather than a delivery, and would far rather pay for an abortion at a proper provider than pay for medical treatment after a botched job.

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