# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36642 "2018-02-16T04:07:28Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> [Great idea, Betsy!](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/374155-murphy-responds-to-devos-on-arming-teachers-to-prevent-gun-violence)

Hey, Remington Arms is heading to bankruptcy; jobs dontchaknow.

But have they thought this through? Aren’t teachers unionized in many places? Don’t they go Democratic in elections? You sure you want to arm them?

This idiot - Betsy - was born a billionaire - couldn’t her parents have afforded an education for her? Can’t they afford a person to read and reason out her pronouncements before she opens her mouth?

Where are these billions coming from to arm all the teachers? Billions for training? Building gun ranges? Qualification shooting and re-qualification standards?

So many questions. Perhaps I should tune into Fox and Friends or Hannity for answers?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36643 "2018-02-16T04:19:30Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Hey, Remington Arms is heading to bankruptcy; jobs dontchaknow.
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> But have they thought this through? Aren’t teachers unionized in many places? Don’t they go Democratic in elections? You sure you want to arm them?
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> This idiot - Betsy - was born a billionaire - couldn’t her parents have afforded an education for her? Can’t they afford a person to read and reason out her pronouncements before she opens her mouth?
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> Where are these billions coming from to arm all the teachers? Billions for training? Building gun ranges? Qualification shooting and re-qualification standards?
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> So many questions. Perhaps I should tune into Fox and Friends or Hannity for answers?

One of the right-wing screwballs on my Facebook feed has been forwarding an item suggesting that we go out and find some unemployed veterans, arm them and place three of them on guard in each school. You know, kind of like Wal-Mart greeters. Who can kill you.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36644 "2018-02-16T05:22:12Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> One of the right-wing screwballs on my Facebook feed has been forwarding an item suggesting that we go out and find some unemployed veterans, arm them and place three of them on guard in each school. You know, kind of like Wal-Mart greeters. Who can kill you.

Yep, on my FB feed as well. Answer = MOAR GUNS!

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36645 "2018-02-16T05:30:13Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> One of the right-wing screwballs on my Facebook feed has been forwarding an item suggesting that we go out and find some unemployed veterans, arm them and place three of them on guard in each school. You know, kind of like Wal-Mart greeters. Who can kill you.

There’s 130,000 public elementary and secondary schools in the US. That’s around 390,000 armed guards. Let’s say $75k/year…

$30 billion dollars a year.

Let’s put a pin in that. Call it Plan B.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36646 "2018-02-16T05:32:21Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> There’s 130,000 public elementary and secondary schools in the US. That’s a nice round 1 million armed guards. Let’s say $75k/year…
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> $75 billion dollars a year.
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> Let’s put a pin in that. Call it Plan B.

Well, considering that schools dont supply the teachers with enough money for pencils and construction paper, yeah. Get right on that.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36647 "2018-02-16T06:05:42Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> One of the right-wing screwballs on my Facebook feed has been forwarding an item suggesting that we go out and find some unemployed veterans, arm them and place three of them on guard in each school. You know, kind of like Wal-Mart greeters. Who can kill you.

A military recruiting office in my area was guarded by armed volunteers a while back. Until one of them accidentally shot a hole in the pavement. (And he had a prior conviction for the same thing. :smack:)

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36648 "2018-02-16T14:36:30Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> A military recruiting office in my area was guarded by armed volunteers a while back. Until one of them accidentally shot a hole in the pavement. (And he had a prior conviction for the same thing. :smack:)

They all think they’re super crack shots and would have definitely been Super Duper Special Forces if only Clinton and Obama hadn’t made the requirements so insanely high.

Finding a solution to this Dunning-Kruger epidemic should be fairly high priority, really…

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36649 "2018-02-16T16:19:01Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> They all think they’re super crack shots and would have definitely been Super Duper Special Forces if only Clinton and Obama hadn’t made the requirements so insanely high.
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> Finding a solution to this Dunning-Kruger epidemic should be fairly high priority, really…

[She’](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betsy_DeVos)s on it.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36650 "2018-02-16T16:46:02Z")

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She **is** it. She shall become a verb. “_It was a vexing problem, but they devossed a plan. We are still trying to clean up after that._”

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36651 "2018-02-16T17:39:24Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> She **is** it. She shall become a verb. “_It was a vexing problem, but they devossed a plan. We are still trying to clean up after that._”

I like it. I propose a related idiom for ill-informed futile flailing or empty gestures in place of coherent intelligent solutions: _“The highway department has been in chaos ever since half the snowplow fleet went on the fritz two days before last week’s blizzard. Nobody knows what to tackle first and they’re just devossing around hoping the problems will go away.”_\*  
\*Apologies to hard-working, well-run highway departments everywhere for appearing to even distantly associate them with the spectacular incompetence and venality of this administration.

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**Author:** ![Spiff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiff/32/9852_2.png) [@Spiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiff)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36652 "2018-02-16T18:28:24Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> I like it. I propose a related idiom for ill-informed futile flailing or empty gestures in place of coherent intelligent solutions: _“The highway department has been in chaos ever since half the snowplow fleet went on the fritz two days before last week’s blizzard. Nobody knows what to tackle first and they’re just devossing around hoping the problems will go away.”_\*  
> \*Apologies to hard-working, well-run highway departments everywhere for appearing to even distantly associate them with the spectacular incompetence and venality of this administration.

When will you apologise to hard-working Fritz?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36653 "2018-02-16T19:55:29Z")

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> [@Spiff](#):
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> When will you apologise to hard-working Fritz?

No way. [Fritz](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_the_Cat) is a lazy bastard with way too many sexual, racist and overall moral issues.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36654 "2018-02-17T05:16:13Z")

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Kansas Republican Congressional candidate is giving away an AR-15.  
[https://www.themaven.net/beingliberal/room/republican-refuses-to-end-ar-15-giveaway-even-after-fl-school-shooting-AltSlBBMNEuvjPqzNo6DRQ](https://www.themaven.net/beingliberal/room/republican-refuses-to-end-ar-15-giveaway-even-after-fl-school-shooting-AltSlBBMNEuvjPqzNo6DRQ)

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**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36655 "2018-02-17T21:01:12Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Why can’t Fox News be subjected to constant ridicule with quotes like this held up to universal derision? I’d love to see the network become marginalized (or fined out of existence).

Everyone who has more than 2 neurons still firing in their brain concluded long ago that Fox News is racist, homophobic, xenophobic, far-right propaganda that’s completely unconcerned with facts. It was so thoroughly demonstrated during the Bush and Obama years that I think people have just given up on bothering to point it out.

There’s a reason their demographic averages age 65 (70 on some of the more ludicrous shows). You have to be from a time when racism, sexism, and authoritarianism were more widely accepted to actually take the network seriously…and a touch of senility doesn’t hurt.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36656 "2018-02-17T21:05:14Z")

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> [@AI\_Proofreader](#):
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> […]
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> There’s a reason their demographic averages age 65 (70 on some of the more ludicrous shows). You have to be from a time when racism, sexism, and authoritarianism were more widely accepted to actually take the network seriously…and a touch of senility doesn’t hurt.

I’m 70 and I refuse to watch Faux News because I would really like to see 71 … and what their “news” does to my blood pressure lessens that possibility a great deal.

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**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36657 "2018-02-17T21:10:08Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Not at all.
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> Making such a huge change to the system would involve thousands of people to make it work. If it could work at all. trump is so, so stupid. Just where is this food going to come from? Just where are you going to deliver it to? What about people that only have PO Boxes, just how clogged up will that make the local post office? The additional bureaucracy of such a system would double the cost of food stamps. And so it won’t happen. “Because, we tried to feed people, but it was too costly”. Another excuse that he tried to help, but fucked over those less fortunate.
> 
> Not that that isn’t the republicans plan.
> 
> Another one of trumps grand ideas that can be shot down in 2 minutes.

Not to mention homeless persons. Even setting aside all the other problems, every person who is living in a car or on the streets will have their benefits cut in half, and receive nothing to replace it. That’s 600,000 chronically homeless persons and 2 - 2.5 million who experience some degree of homelessness the U.S. each year.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36658 "2018-02-17T21:30:26Z")

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> [@AI\_Proofreader](#):
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> Not to mention homeless persons. Even setting aside all the other problems, every person who is living in a car or on the streets will have their benefits cut in half, and receive nothing to replace it. That’s 600,000 chronically homeless persons and 2 - 2.5 million who experience some degree of homelessness the U.S. each year.

That’s not a bug of this asinine plan. It’s a feature.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36659 "2018-02-17T23:12:40Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> I’m 70 and I refuse to watch Faux News because I would really like to see 71 … and what their “news” does to my blood pressure lessens that possibility a great deal.

Look at it this way: the high BP keeps the plaque and clots from building up in your arteries.

**running coach** , proud graduate of **handy’s** School Of Internet Medicine

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36660 "2018-02-18T03:28:15Z")

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If you want to lower your blood pressure, try flying in a lot of jets. The cabins are pressurized so it will push your blood pressure down.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/36661 "2018-02-18T03:31:32Z")

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That’s too cheap and convenient to be believed.

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