# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3741 "2011-11-16T17:58:25Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Some people have suggested that this is an excellent point, directly touching on \*\*President Obama’s arrogant refusal to consult expert opinion. \*\*

I missed this at the time. Did Obama really act unilaterally without any consultation, or is that just another RW lie?

That’s pretty much the context I got from Caine’s answer–that he would have done more research before making the same decision. \*Was \*there an absolute absence of consultation, or is this as nutritionally empty as a school lunch [del]pizza[/del] serving of vegetables?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3742 "2011-11-16T17:58:30Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> Presidents and Former Presidents get Intelligence Briefings every morning. I learned this from watching **West Wing**. The guy never watched **West Wing**??

He could have promised to actually _read_ his Intelligence Briefings, but he didn’t want to [implicitly criticize the previous Republican president](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Ladin_Determined_To_Strike_in_US).

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3743 "2011-11-16T18:15:09Z")

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Republicans are saying it’s important to consult intelligence and not to act unilaterally when it comes to bombing other countries. Is this real life?

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3744 "2011-11-16T19:02:20Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> Republicans are saying it’s important to consult intelligence and not to act unilaterally when it comes to bombing other countries. Is this real life?

Is it just fantasy?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3745 "2011-11-16T19:03:16Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> Presidents and Former Presidents get Intelligence Briefings every morning. I learned this from watching **West Wing**. The guy never watched **West Wing**??

Piffle. _West Wing_was typical liberal-biased fact-based propaganda. Real presidents go with their guts and the manifest will of God alone. Knowledge of “facts” just muddles issues, causes one to rethink certitudes and down that road flip-flopping lies.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3746 "2011-11-16T19:09:02Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> What did he eventually say about Libya? I was out in the kitchen getting crumbs and bits of food out of the round, brown, straw mat that the teapot goes on.

He basically said that before jumping in and helping out the rebels, he would have consulted Intel guys to figure out who exactly the rebels were. On one hand, it seems smart considering the new leadership doesn’t seem very West-friendly. On the other hand, it means that based on “well, these guys don’t seem to bat on our team, exactly” he would have been all too happy to let the rebels get crushed under Qaddafi’s boot…because his boot was friendlier ? Or he would have helped regardless, but not quite because they’re not nice people ? Or something ?  
I dunno, I have all kinds of stuff twirling in my head right now.

… Lybia ? Hmmm…

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3747 "2011-11-16T19:16:43Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> Is it just fantasy?

caught in a landslide…

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**Author:** ![redtail23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3e96dc/32.png) [@redtail23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/redtail23)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3748 "2011-11-16T19:25:39Z")

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No escape from reality…

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3749 "2011-11-16T19:42:09Z")

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OPEN your EYES!

(It’s still fair-use as long as no single post contains too much, right?)

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3750 "2011-11-16T20:14:02Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> What did he eventually say about Libya? I was out in the kitchen getting crumbs and bits of food out of the round, brown, straw mat that the teapot goes on.

> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> It sort of boiled down to: “Obama was wrong but if Obama was wrong then leaving Khaddafy in power was good which is wrong so Obama was right but Obama must be wrong and PLEASE EXPLAIN… NORMAN, CO-ORDINATE…”

> [@Kobal2](#):
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> He basically said that before jumping in and helping out the rebels, he would have consulted Intel guys to figure out who exactly the rebels were. On one hand, it seems smart considering the new leadership doesn’t seem very West-friendly. On the other hand, it means that based on “well, these guys don’t seem to bat on our team, exactly” he would have been all too happy to let the rebels get crushed under Qaddafi’s boot…because his boot was friendlier ? Or he would have helped regardless, but not quite because they’re not nice people ? Or something ?  
> I dunno, I have all kinds of stuff twirling in my head right now.

[Whoosh](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxS0c9CTAUM).

C’mon, how hysterical would it have been if Cain had made the ‘pause’ gesture?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3751 "2011-11-16T21:07:25Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> caught in a landslide…

That will be in favor of the Democrats if the Republicans pick Cain as their candidate.  
Oops, I meant to say:

\*Look up to the sky and SEEEE!! \* 🙂

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3752 "2011-11-17T12:25:23Z")

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[PolitiChick-- Victoria Jackson’s strong conservative women web talks show.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/16/victoria-jackson-politichicks-web-show_n_1097796.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003)

Holy shit! At first I thought that Victoria was the stupidest conservative woman to ever open her brain-damaged pie-hole but “What’s peaceful about believing your mission in life is to murder anyone for any reason.” and “Most people think the reason you can’t have a Bible is school was because it was outlawed in 1963 but that’s not really true. It was the religious devotion of that. Actually some of the original textbooks were actually, what? The Bible. Even if you look at the New England Primer.” And the kicker “Then there’s also the fact that not all Muslims are terrorist but. . . (in unison) all terrorists are Muslims. . . and that’s a fact.” all came from other pie-holes not attached to Victoria Jackson.

P.S. She needs to stop doing cartwheels and handstands, her knees can’t take it anymore.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3753 "2011-11-17T21:56:51Z")

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So now with Cain’s rapidly dropping poll numbers, and with the Republicans already having gone through their Bachmann, Perry, Cain, and now Gingrich, who’s next, Ron Paul? I would have thought that was laughable but fucking Gingrich is surging in the polls and I left him for dead a decade ago. The only ones who are left that’s not Romney are Paul and Santorum, right? I don’t even know who’s running anymore, maybe Fred Thompson will show his withered face again.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3754 "2011-11-17T22:08:25Z")

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Srill waiting their turns… Paul, Santorum, John Huntsman and Gary Johnson. Johnson will certainly never get a turn – he’s openly pro-choice, and favors legalizing marijuana.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3755 "2011-11-17T22:08:26Z")

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Jon Huntsman

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3756 "2011-11-17T22:26:28Z")

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Huntsman would be a breath of fresh air… He’s almost too sane to become the nominee, really… Believes in global warming, evolution, _understands foreign policy_… Jeez, he’s like the fucking antithesis of morons like Perry and Bachmann.

Ron Paul scares the shit out of me. Not just because he’s insane as fuck, but because he pulls votes from otherwise completely rational people to his craziness. This makes no sense.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3757 "2011-11-17T22:41:35Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> …Ron Paul scares the shit out of me. Not just because he’s insane as fuck, but because he pulls votes from otherwise completely rational people to his craziness. This makes no sense.

How is that any different from Bachmann, Santorum, or Cain?

Eh, maybe not Cain, I guess. He’s a clown and totally unqualified, but maybe not crazy.

And Perry – he’s the mystery to me. I’m not sure what hos percentages of stupid and crazy are, but the two certainly add up to near 100%. I’l throw in 1% for “funny”.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3758 "2011-11-17T23:02:26Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> So now with Cain’s rapidly dropping poll numbers, and with the Republicans already having gone through their Bachmann, Perry, Cain, and now Gingrich, who’s next, Ron Paul? I would have thought that was laughable but fucking Gingrich is surging in the polls and I left him for dead a decade ago. The only ones who are left that’s not Romney are Paul and Santorum, right? I don’t even know who’s running anymore, maybe Fred Thompson will show his withered face again.

This could be just the break the McCain campaign needs!

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3759 "2011-11-18T05:03:05Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> How is that any different from Bachmann, Santorum, or Cain?

A lot of my close, very rational friends would back him. ;\_;

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/3760 "2011-11-18T05:26:07Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> A lot of my close, very rational friends would back him. ;\_;

I would argue about rational. Libertarianism is so silly. He wants to take us back to an America that never was and would have been a horrible mess if it did.

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