# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37822 "2018-05-26T04:25:03Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Republican candidate: Beyonce has ties to the Illuminati, 9/11 was an inside job.  
> [http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/389338-illinois-gop-house-candidate-said-beyonce-had-ties-to-illuminati-9-11?rnd=1527257485](http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/389338-illinois-gop-house-candidate-said-beyonce-had-ties-to-illuminati-9-11?rnd=1527257485)

Even more amusing: His name sounds like a mix between Falwell and Farewell: Fawell.

And Farewell is what the GOP is saying to him and the seat he wants:

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> Fawell ran uncontested for the GOP nomination for Illinois’s 17th District. Trump won the district in 2016 by a narrow margin, though incumbent Bustos won her seat by 20 points. She is the favorite and the race is not listed as competitive on the Cook Political Report.

It’s a sideshow and he’s a clown, nothing more.

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Publix supermarkets in Florida have been strongly supporting Republican candidate for Governor Adam Putnam, who touts his NRA endorsement.  
> Today, Marjorie Stoneman Douglas students, led by David Hogg, did a die-in in a Publix store.  
> This evening, Publix announced they will stop sending money to the Putnam campaign.  
> [Publix suspends political contributions as David Hogg ‘die-ins’ begin – Orlando Sentinel](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/os-orlando-publix-die-in-20180525-story.html)

Thus proving a well-known point: If you want to make changes, don’t protest in private, protest in Publix!

They can’t stop weaseling, though:

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> “We would never knowingly disappoint our customers or the communities we serve,’’ said company spokesman Dwaine Stevens in a statement Friday.

Nope, you’ve just decided which customers and communities you’re going to disappoint, and it’s the ones who aren’t going to bring you as much money. Dwaine “The Weasel” Stevens is cooking up the usual mush-mouth, but the fact Publix changed course so quickly tells you something.

I can’t help but think about the differences between this and the lunch counter sit-ins:

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> At the Orlando Publix at 1400 Colonial Drive, about 25 protesters lay in an aisle with signs, blocking customers from shopping for about 15 minutes. They got up and chanted, “boycott Publix.”
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> Store managers diverted shoppers around the protest and fetched grocery items for them. Publix employees did not interfere, and there were no police, either. A handful of customers stood to watch, but most went on shopping.

Had there been any dogs, they would have licked the protestors’ faces, and maybe looked at them soulfully in hopes of getting some food or scritches.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37823 "2018-05-26T04:35:25Z")

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There was just that “Summa ——— Laude” cake story that involved one of those stores. I perused the thread – numerous people were referring to it as Pube-licks.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37824 "2018-05-26T04:45:21Z")

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\*Another Facebook commenter, Albert Stellmach, wrote, “Agricultural commission has no say in guns — though he states he is pro NRA — he’s just one person. I see no reason to boycott them. If he was running for Governor this would be different.”

To clarify, Putnam is running for governor, and the Agriculture Commissioner actually has a great deal to do with guns — the permitting process for concealed carry permits is run out of the Department of Agriculture. One could argue the commissioner has more to do with guns than any other statewide elected official.\*

:smack:

> **[A lot of readers are upset about Publix's support of Adam Putnam, but...](https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/sound-off-south-florida/fl-reg-boycott-publix-follow-20180524-story.html)**
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> South Floridians boycotting Publix? After more than a hundred emails, almost 300 Facebook comments and dozens of tweets, we've got a pretty good idea where folks stand on that idea.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37825 "2018-05-26T04:48:42Z")

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Didjall know that Trump is under attack by [advanced beings who know how to tap into supernatural multidimensional power and integrate it with science, technology, and economics"](http://deadstate.org/christian-author-trump-is-under-attack-from-multidimensional-luciferian-advanced-beings/)?

How do I get me some of that? Who has the contact number for Mystery Babylon? I promise to use my powers for only diabolical purposes. Or at least with some major irresponsibility.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37826 "2018-05-26T04:55:23Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Republican candidate: Beyonce has ties to the Illuminati, 9/11 was an inside job.  
> [http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/389338-illinois-gop-house-candidate-said-beyonce-had-ties-to-illuminati-9-11?rnd=1527257485](http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/389338-illinois-gop-house-candidate-said-beyonce-had-ties-to-illuminati-9-11?rnd=1527257485)

Nonsense, the Illuminati don’t allow women in. I should know, we… I’ve said too much.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37827 "2018-05-26T05:41:11Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Didjall know that Trump is under attack by [advanced beings who know how to tap into supernatural multidimensional power and integrate it with science, technology, and economics"](http://deadstate.org/christian-author-trump-is-under-attack-from-multidimensional-luciferian-advanced-beings/)?

Well, I think we all knew the mathematicians were against him. That’s just logic.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37828 "2018-05-26T06:03:09Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Didjall know that Trump is under attack by [advanced beings who know how to tap into supernatural multidimensional power and integrate it with science, technology, and economics"](http://deadstate.org/christian-author-trump-is-under-attack-from-multidimensional-luciferian-advanced-beings/)?
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> How do I get me some of that? Who has the contact number for Mystery Babylon? I promise to use my powers for only diabolical purposes. Or at least with some major irresponsibility.

Make friends with some laboratory mice, which are actually planet-building pan-dimensional beings from Magrathea who are manipulating us through lab results. Also, remember to feed the dolphins.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37829 "2018-05-26T15:50:32Z")

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They’ll thank you for it.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37830 "2018-05-26T19:16:12Z")

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> I have found it. The stupidest Republican idea ever. The [Donald J. Trump 2018 Nobel Peace Prize](http://web.archive.org/web/20180524194503/https://marketersmedia.com/trump-nobel-peace-prize-ready-for-display-in-the-oval-office).
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> “President Trump has done something no other President has done in over 65 years. American’s [sic] are proud of him and want to send a message that says, in their eyes, Trump has already won”
> 
> I feel dumber just having read that. This thread can now be safely closed.

> [@Locrian](#):
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> One Doper Dollar says the orange turd will have a fake one made, claiming he was the real winner, and will have a map of the country breaking down how Americans voted unanimously for him to win the Nobel Prize. It will be placed in front of the “real” Time Magazine cover in Mar-a-Lago.

The one being touted _is_ a fake one, isn’t it?

Of course, he probably WILL have an identical one struck (at taxpayer expense, natch), so he can has one without paying the $25…

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37831 "2018-05-26T20:06:47Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> The one being touted _is_ a fake one, isn’t it?
> 
> Of course, he probably WILL have an identical one struck (at taxpayer expense, natch), so he can has one without paying the $25…

The Nobel prize consists of some cash and an [8 oz solid gold medallion](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11157117/Whats-in-the-box-Scientist-questioned-by-incredulous-Fargo-TSA-agent-for-having-Nobel-Prize-in-his-carry-on.html). The medallion probably could be counterfeited without too much difficulty, for only ten or twenty thousand dollars, but I think the historical records of the A. E. Nobel Foundation would be a bit more difficult to jigger. Unless, of course, he can figure out a way to gin up a war with Scandinavia, break into Foundation HQ and edit the book listing the winners.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37832 "2018-05-26T20:08:46Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Unless, of course, he can figure out a way to gin up a war with Scandinavia, break into Foundation HQ and edit the book listing the winners.

There’s no wrong way to win a Nobel Peace Prize.

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37833 "2018-05-26T20:17:37Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Unless, of course, he can figure out a way to gin up a war with Scandinavia, break into Foundation HQ and edit the book listing the winners.

Just try, we’ll kick your ass.  
But sure, I can imagine him starting a war to win a peace prize.

( edit. I’m not Swedish, but close enough and they seem to be a little sketchy on geography. )

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37834 "2018-05-26T21:26:09Z")

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> I have found it. The stupidest Republican idea ever. The [Donald J. Trump 2018 Nobel Peace Prize](http://web.archive.org/web/20180524194503/https://marketersmedia.com/trump-nobel-peace-prize-ready-for-display-in-the-oval-office).
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> “President Trump has done something no other President has done in over 65 years. American’s [sic] are proud of him and want to send a message that says, in their eyes, Trump has already won”
> 
> I feel dumber just having read that. This thread can now be safely closed.

Take solace in the fact that no matter how badly the brain trauma this nonsense introduces saps your INT score, you can never be stupider than the people what said it in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37835 "2018-05-26T23:01:01Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Yup, the people who claim to want less government just keep proposing more and more.
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> Turn schools into armed prisons. Ban jackets. Ban books. Ban muslims. Ban displays of other religions because they offend Christians. Ban transsexuals from the military. Ban gays from the military. Ban this. Ban that. Let’s have the government monitor every child’s social media. :rolleyes:
> 
> But hey, environmental and worker regulations are completely unnecessary and intrusive on the rights of businesses. :smack:

It’s pretty simple: if you’re born into the 1%, God clearly intended that you should be able to do exactly as you please, all the time.

On the other hand, the 99%, here to serve you, obviously need to be surveilled and controlled quite closely, so that proper order may be maintained.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37836 "2018-05-28T01:10:58Z")

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How does Giuliani even get around with his feet always in his mouth? He can’t be long for that job.

[“Giuliani Admits ‘Spygate’ Is PR in Anticipation of Impeachment”](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/giuliani-admits-spygate-is-pr-about-impeachment.html)

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> Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani confirmed on Sunday that the president and his allies’ attempts to discredit the Mueller investigation — including the most recent so-called Spygate controversy — are part of a public relations campaign aimed at staving off impeachment. “It is for public opinion,” the former New York mayor admitted during an appearance on CNN’s State of the Union. And while trying to shape public opinion is the rarely acknowledged goal of any presidential administration, what Giuliani said next was unique to Trump’s: “Because eventually the decision here is going to be impeach or not impeach.”  
> …  
> Asked to confirm that these efforts to discredit the Mueller probe were just a political tactic, Giuliani first demurred, insisting that he and Trump have just been calling attention to the suspicions, not creating them.  
> …  
> Appearing somewhat flummoxed, Giuliani tried to explain that he was only able to go on the attack because “they’re giving us the material,” meaning the missteps or alleged misconduct of federal law enforcement officials — though actually referring to Trump’s allies in Congress and in the conservative media. Then, surprisingly, he veered toward transparency:
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> > Of course we have to [be aggressive in these attacks] to defend the president. We’re defending … um — to a large extent remember, Dana, we’re defending here … It is for public opinion. Because eventually the decision here is going to be impeach or not impeach. Members of Congress, Democrats and Republicans, are going to be informed a lot by their constituents. And so our jury is — as it should be — is the American people. And the American people, yes, are … Republicans, largely, independents, pretty substantially, and even some Democrats now question the legitimacy of [the Mueller investigation].
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> “Democrats, I suggest, from their own self interest: this is not a good issue to go into the congressional elections with,” he added, again confirming that the attacks on the Mueller investigation were not a legal strategy, but a political one.  
> …

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37837 "2018-05-28T01:14:27Z")

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The stupidest part of that whole thing is twofold;

1\> Giuliani is obviously growing senile and not doing his ‘client’ any favors.  
2\> Trump apparently believes this helps obfuscate the issue in his favor.

Sadly, Trump is probably right, at least where his base is concerned.

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**Author:** ![aktep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@aktep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aktep)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37838 "2018-05-28T19:12:25Z")

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> [@Saltire](#):
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> Is there no Democrat in his race? CNN didn’t bother to speak to any non-Republicans.

It’s the GOP primary, so, no.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37839 "2018-05-29T03:05:18Z")

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Can somebody explain who Jordan Peterson is and why he’s got the right wing all up in a tizzy in support of him?

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37840 "2018-05-29T03:55:54Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Can somebody explain who Jordan Peterson is and why he’s got the right wing all up in a tizzy in support of him?

Jordan Peterson espouses philosophies that make the incels feel warm and fuzzy and reinforces the ultra-right-wing’s impression that anyone who is liberal is a snowflake and a mooch.

> **[How dangerous is Jordan B Peterson, the rightwing professor who 'hit a...](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest)**
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> Since his confrontation with Cathy Newman, the Canadian academic’s book has become a bestseller. But his arguments are riddled with ‘pseudo-facts’ and conspiracy theories

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37841 "2018-05-29T04:00:38Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Sadly, Trump is probably right, at least where his base is concerned.

At this point, I’m not sure why anyone thinks Trump does anything with his base in mind. If he really is as invincible a god to them as everyone says, why does he have to expend the least bit of effort to speak to them or satisfy them? He could make abortion a federal right and ban the Second Amendment and they’d excuse hm, so what’s the point?

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