# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37942 "2018-06-07T20:35:45Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> The thing is, Melania has to know from first-hand experience just how credible her husband is; I mean, none of us live with him, but we know that nothing he says can be trusted. That’s like an actual fact of her daily life; we just deal with it from afar.

I understand that my impression is just that…and in no way a fact…

But she doesn’t seem to like him very much.

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37943 "2018-06-07T20:40:46Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> It’s cute that he thinks Trump is getting a second term, though

Does anyone else think that Ryan is positioning himself as a serious alternative to Trump?  
Stepping away from Speaker of the House so he can attack without appearing to sabotage the Republican agenda. . . starting slow by saying there is no evidence that the FBI spied on the Trump campaign. . .

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37944 "2018-06-07T20:50:43Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> The thing is, Melania has to know from first-hand experience just how credible her husband is; I mean, none of us live with him, but we know that nothing he says can be trusted.

Well, yeah, but that’s not compatible with Rudy’s notion that anyone who sells their body has no credibility. He’s also conveniently forgotten Melania’s nude photo shoot [and he’s doubled down.](http://www.newsweek.com/morning-joe-host-calls-giuliani-misogynistic-fool-disgusting-man-964362)

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> “Excuse me, when you look at Stormy Daniels—uh, I know Donald Trump—look at his three wives,” Giuliani said, via a clip posted to Mediaite. “Beautiful women. Classy women. Women of great substance. Stormy Daniels?” (Giuliani made a dismissive face after saying her name.)
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> The lawyer then went on to say he didn’t respect Daniels as much as other women because she worked in porn and “sold her body for sexual exploitation.” After Morning Joe showed the clip of Giuliani, they cut to Brzezinski.
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> “You misogynistic fool. Are you kidding me? ‘Just look at Stormy Daniels?’ Just look at yourself. Are you kidding me?" she said on the MSNBC show. “In this moment where we are in history with women, you are going to tell us to just look at her? Are you out of your mind? You know what, that’s your only excuse, and I feel really sorry for you. That is the most—he was incredibly degrading. On top of the fact that you are hurting the president’s case on so many levels, so good on you, keep going, Rudy. I’m absolutely sickened about what I just saw.”

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37945 "2018-06-07T21:07:53Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Well, yeah, but that’s not compatible with Rudy’s notion that anyone who sells their body has no credibility.

😕 :dubious: [Drag-queen Rudy Giuliani who enacted a sexual-misconduct comedy sketch, complete with falsies-nuzzling, with Donald Trump for a press event in 2000](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/rudy-guiliani-donald-trump-drag-video-seduce-new-york-mayor-us-president-a8344921.html) is disdaining **other** people for insufficient bodily dignity and propriety?

Well, that’s…quite something.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37946 "2018-06-07T21:15:57Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> Does anyone else think that Ryan is positioning himself as a serious alternative to Trump?

Order of Succession;

Vice President Mike Pence.  
**Speaker of the House Paul Ryan.**  
Senate President Pro Tempore Orrin Hatch.  
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.  
Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin.  
Secretary of Defense James Mattis.  
Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

So if, for example, both Trump and Pence resigned or were impeached before January 20th of next year (and no replacement VP approved), Ryan would become President. Which of course, assumes that he isn’t complicit in all the Russia stuff and isn’t arrested and forced to resign or impeached.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37947 "2018-06-07T22:10:09Z")

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[Rudy, Rudy, Rudy … why pay her off at all if it isn’t true?](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/06/07/stormy-daniels-has-no-credibility-because-she-porn-star-giuliani/680257002/)

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37948 "2018-06-07T22:42:15Z")

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The Weather Channel’s evening _Weather Underground_ show just spent about 15 minutes completely destroying Trump’s idiotic argument (first mentioned by **ThelmaLou** ) that 16,000 people rescued during Tropical Storm Harvey had gone “[out in their boats to watch the hurricane](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/391116-trump-claims-thousands-had-to-be-rescued-after-going-out-in-their).”

It really takes a special kind of person to manage to piss off _The Weather Channel_. 😃

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37949 "2018-06-07T23:34:17Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> The Weather Channel’s evening _Weather Underground_ show just spent about 15 minutes completely destroying Trump’s idiotic argument (first mentioned by **ThelmaLou** ) that 16,000 people rescued during Tropical Storm Harvey had gone “[out in their boats to watch the hurricane](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/391116-trump-claims-thousands-had-to-be-rescued-after-going-out-in-their).”
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> It really takes a special kind of person to manage to piss off _The Weather Channel_. 😃

I want it to piss off Texans.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37950 "2018-06-08T00:36:20Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> I want it to piss off Texans.

Someone who’s on social media should start a “Hey, Texas, Trump thinks you’re idiots!” meme.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37951 "2018-06-08T00:45:51Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [Rudy, Rudy, Rudy … why pay her off at all if it isn’t true?](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/06/07/stormy-daniels-has-no-credibility-because-she-porn-star-giuliani/680257002/)

“… I know Donald Trump, look at his three wives, beautiful women, classy women, women of great substance.”

Women of great substance?😕

Ivana was a model, reputed skier, later developed a career with the donald as an interior designer and did standard celebrity fluff.

Marla was a beauty contestant and minor actress and TV player with celebrity gigs.

Melania was a model.

Good looking, gold diggers in most respects, none or little substance at the time of marriage.

Giuliani and substance have never had a working relationship. But keep it up, Cheetolini doesn’t suspect you at all.😉

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37952 "2018-06-08T00:50:17Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Order of Succession;
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> Vice President Mike Pence.  
> **Speaker of the House Paul Ryan.**  
> Senate President Pro Tempore Orrin Hatch.  
> Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.  
> Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin.  
> Secretary of Defense James Mattis.  
> Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
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> So if, for example, both Trump and Pence resigned or were impeached before January 20th of next year (and no replacement VP approved), Ryan would become President. Which of course, assumes that he isn’t complicit in all the Russia stuff and isn’t arrested and forced to resign or impeached.

You are off by 17 days. Ryan’s term ends on the third.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37953 "2018-06-08T01:30:04Z")

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I think the point is that Paul Ryan would have been in position to take over if he’d run for re-election and led a GOP revolt against the criminality of Trump and Pence. But apparently that’s not in him.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37954 "2018-06-08T01:59:13Z")

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Paul Ryan has never had any aspiration to true power. I think he just wants to retire outrageously rich by fifty.

As for doing any good for the United States of America…don’t make me laugh.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37955 "2018-06-08T02:47:14Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> “… I know Donald Trump, look at his three wives, beautiful women, classy women, women of great substance.”

Apparently, the quantity of wives is now something for Republicans to brag about. Don’t you just love their commitment to family values?

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37956 "2018-06-08T03:05:53Z")

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I must admit, I have never seen Marla Maples as a “classy” person.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37957 "2018-06-08T03:17:53Z")

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And SPY magazine pointed out, in the 1980s, that Ivana’s modeling career — rather than “high fashion” — consisted of the Eastern Europe version of Macy’s underwear ads.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37958 "2018-06-08T05:08:24Z")

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To be fair, separating families detained at the border started some years back. But Sessions and co. think it’s: A. Not so bad ; B. The parents’ fault; C. Just the way the law works.

[https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/05/hugh\_hewitt\_to\_jeff\_sessions\_is\_it\_neccesary\_to\_separate\_parents\_from\_children\_when\_detained\_at\_border.html](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/05/hugh_hewitt_to_jeff_sessions_is_it_neccesary_to_separate_parents_from_children_when_detained_at_border.html)  
For the life of me, I can’t see how taking kids away from their parents is supposed to teach anyone a lesson or prevent them from trying to come here. It certainly doesn’t do the young ones any good.

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/‘it’s-horrendous’-the-heartache-of-a-migrant-boy-taken-from-his-father/ar-AAym6bV](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/%E2%80%98it%E2%80%99s-horrendous%E2%80%99-the-heartache-of-a-migrant-boy-taken-from-his-father/ar-AAym6bV)

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37959 "2018-06-08T07:11:11Z")

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I mean, it makes sense as deterrent, in the same way “we shoot brown people on sight near the rio grande” would work as deterrent. Still pretty awful, though.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37960 "2018-06-08T07:34:10Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> I mean, it makes sense as deterrent, in the same way “we shoot brown people on sight near the rio grande” would work as deterrent. Still pretty awful, though.

The important thing is that Jeff Sessions gets to make brown people suffer, and that’s practically been his lifelong goal in politics.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/37961 "2018-06-08T08:49:46Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Well, yeah, but that’s not compatible with Rudy’s notion that anyone who sells their body has no credibility. He’s also conveniently forgotten Melania’s nude photo shoot [and he’s doubled down.](http://www.newsweek.com/morning-joe-host-calls-giuliani-misogynistic-fool-disgusting-man-964362)

Didn’t Donald himself take scantily-clad photos of her on his plane and sell them?

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