# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38002 "2018-06-18T18:36:44Z")

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So, apparently the Republican line is that if you want to seek asylum, you should leave your underage children in the dangerous situation that you are trying to escape from?

#FamilyValues!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38003 "2018-06-18T18:49:38Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> So, apparently the Republican line is that if you want to seek asylum, you should leave your underage children in the dangerous situation that you are trying to escape from?
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> #FamilyValues!

More like #BrownFamiliesDontMatter!

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38004 "2018-06-19T03:28:44Z")

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Ann Coulter calls crying immigrant children in detention centers ‘child actors’.

> **[Ann Coulter calls crying immigrant children in detention centers ‘child actors’](https://deadstate.org/ann-coulter-calls-crying-immigrant-children-in-detention-centers-child-actors/)**
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> Ann Coulter proudly went into full Alex Jones-mode on Fox News this Sunday.

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> During an appearance on Fox News this Sunday, Coulter introduced the ‘crisis actors’ conspiracy theory into the debate.
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> After giving a full-throated defense of anti-immigrant terms like “anchor baby,” Coulter warned that the images of crying children are not what they seem.
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> “These child actors weeping and crying on all the other networks 24/7 right now—do not fall for it, Mr. President. I get very nervous about the president getting his news from TV,” Coulter said.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38005 "2018-06-19T04:26:18Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Ann Coulter calls crying immigrant children in detention centers ‘child actors’.
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> [Ann Coulter calls crying immigrant children in detention centers ‘child actors’ – DeadState](http://deadstate.org/ann-coulter-calls-crying-immigrant-children-in-detention-centers-child-actors/)

Ah yes, the go-to when your party does indefensible bullshit : deny reality altogether. Coming soon in a cognitively dissonant brain near YOU !

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38006 "2018-06-19T08:39:33Z")

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It’s the “what are the newest and most guaranteed bullshit phrases to piss people off?” time again. She could’ve called them “fake news accomplices” and gotten the same reaction. The queen of bullshit. Nothing new.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38007 "2018-06-19T14:40:33Z")

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Paul Ryan the Ostrich. Keep in mind that he is second in line to the presidency.

**Paul Ryan has been living in a cave**

> **[Opinion | Paul Ryan has been living in a cave](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-has-paul-ryan-stayed-sane-under-trump-with-a-blindfold-on/2018/06/18/7f619038-7335-11e8-805c-4b67019fcfe4_story.html)**
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> Incuriosity is a perfect excuse for the House speaker.

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> …  
> The speaker averts his gaze so often from Trump’s mayhem that he is likely to get a stiff neck:
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> Trump congratulating Russian President Vladimir Putin on his “election”?
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> “I don’t know the content of that conversation,” Ryan said.
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> Trump’s claim that President Barack Obama wiretapped Trump Tower?
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> “I didn’t see the interview.”
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> Trump’s conflicts of interest with his family business?
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> “I haven’t looked at the details of the arrangement.”
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> Trump’s call for lawmakers to investigate “fake news outlets.”
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> “I’m not familiar with the statement. Sorry. I’ve been — I was pretty busy.”
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> Trump’s attacks on NFL players over the national anthem?
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> “I haven’t seen all of his comments.”
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> FBI agents looking for information about the “Access Hollywood” tape when they raided Trump lawyer Michael Cohen’s offices?
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> “I didn’t even read the article.”
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> Trump’s strained call with the Australian prime minister?
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> “Don’t know the content of the call.”
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> Trump threatening to pull FEMA from Puerto Rico after the hurricane?
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> “I’m a little busy today. I haven’t been looking at Twitter.”  
> …

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38008 "2018-06-19T16:36:58Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Ann Coulter calls crying immigrant children in detention centers ‘child actors’.
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> [Ann Coulter calls crying immigrant children in detention centers ‘child actors’ – DeadState](http://deadstate.org/ann-coulter-calls-crying-immigrant-children-in-detention-centers-child-actors/)
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> > [@](#):
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> > ”These child actors weeping and crying on all the other networks 24/7 right now—do not fall for it, Mr. President. I get very nervous about the president getting his news from TV,” Coulter said.

Did anybody remark on the irony of the fact that she said that on TV?

Never mind, dumb question.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38009 "2018-06-19T17:39:55Z")

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Maybe she meant that he should be _reading_ news instead of watching it.

Donald don’t read.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38010 "2018-06-19T17:57:53Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Ann Coulter calls crying immigrant children in detention centers ‘child actors’.
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> [Ann Coulter calls crying immigrant children in detention centers ‘child actors’ – DeadState](http://deadstate.org/ann-coulter-calls-crying-immigrant-children-in-detention-centers-child-actors/)

Mara Wilson (famous 90s child actress from _Mrs. Doubtfire_ and _Matilda_) has a terrific Twitter feed. Her response:

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> There are not very many things I feel I can really speak with authority on, but there are no fucking child crisis actors you morons. No child actor is that good.

> <https://twitter.com/MaraWilson/status/1008929474702815232>

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38011 "2018-06-19T19:36:43Z")

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A federal judge has overturned Kansas’ voter registration law, and has ordered Kris Kobach to take six hours of classes.

> **[Judge strikes down Kansas voter law, orders Kobach to take classes](https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article213415624.html)**
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> A federal judge has struck down a Kansas voter citizenship law that Secretary of State Kris Kobach had personally defended.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38012 "2018-06-20T00:56:02Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Paul Ryan the Ostrich. Keep in mind that he is second in line to the presidency.
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> **Paul Ryan has been living in a cave**
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> [quoted at the URL: an appalling list of Ryan’s deflections, demurs, and pretended ignorance of whatever disgusting thing Trump has said or done lately]
> 
> [https://wapo.st/2ljOH6Z](https://wapo.st/2ljOH6Z)

I’m surprised that “The Cowardly Ryan” hasn’t caught on as the go-to descriptor of the Speaker. Seems like a natural epithet for this extremely timid man.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38013 "2018-06-20T03:58:55Z")

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Probably because being compared to Paul Ryan is an insult both to lions and to cowards.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38014 "2018-06-20T05:14:30Z")

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I know I’ve said this before, but how fucking stupid do you need to be to be a Trumpista at this point? The official line is:

“It’s the Dems making us do this, even though such separations were rare prior to us announcing our new “zero tolerance” policy.  
And they are probably fake families; you know that well-known practice of people loaning out their children, and children pretending to cry.”

Fuck me.

Also, on right-wing media the assertion is repeated that as long as you go to a port of entry this won’t happen. Is that correct? Because other outlets are saying even you go to the port this happens.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38015 "2018-06-20T08:40:45Z")

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Felt my blood pressure getting a mite low, so checked a couple minutes of Hannity. Did you know that the FBI was a totally lefty/liberal organization? Anybody know exactly when that happened? Did we take over the Justice Dept first, or after?

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38016 "2018-06-20T08:47:21Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Felt my blood pressure getting a mite low, so checked a couple minutes of Hannity. Did you know that the FBI was a totally lefty/liberal organization? Anybody know exactly when that happened? Did we take over the Justice Dept first, or after?

Political relativity: whether one party is moving to the right or the other is moving to the left is indistinguishable save for from frame of reference\*. The FBI became a lefty organization around the same time Robert Muller, Jeff Flake, John McCain, and the National Review becamse lefty organizations.

\*Obviously this is bullshit but it’s the best working theory I have at the moment

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38017 "2018-06-20T08:49:55Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> I know I’ve said this before, but how fucking stupid do you need to be to be a Trumpista at this point? The official line is:
> 
> “It’s the Dems making us do this, even though such separations were rare prior to us announcing our new “zero tolerance” policy.  
> And they are probably fake families; you know that well-known practice of people loaning out their children, and children pretending to cry.”
> 
> Fuck me.
> 
> Also, on right-wing media the assertion is repeated that as long as you go to a port of entry this won’t happen. Is that correct? Because other outlets are saying even you go to the port this happens.

I believe the deal is that if you go to the designated port of entry, you get told that there are no available slots for processing and get turned back. After a few days (or longer) of this you try to cross by another means, and then get arrested for illegal entry. I may be missing a few nuances there, and welcome correction if the above is not accurate.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38018 "2018-06-20T09:46:34Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Felt my blood pressure getting a mite low, so checked a couple minutes of Hannity. Did you know that the FBI was a totally lefty/liberal organization? Anybody know exactly when that happened? Did we take over the Justice Dept first, or after?

Used to be the US had a right wing and a less-right wing, with a seminal point of reference due left circa the Enlightenment (negroes excepted, but watayagonnado). The rightmost wing went full Nazi, so obviously the original point of reference looks smaller to them now, as seen from a rapidly receding telescope. Political physics.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38019 "2018-06-20T11:05:54Z")

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> **[House GOP plan would cut Medicare, Medicaid to balance budget](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2018/06/19/house-gop-plan-would-cut-medicare-social-security-to-balance-budget/?utm_term=.4da0739f2917)**
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> Lawmakers widely agree that spending that is not subject to the appropriations process is becoming unsustainable, but President Trump has refused to cut Medicare or Social Security.

Get used to this: Medicare and Medicaid are going to start facing the budget axe, and there’s probably no way around it.

> [@](#):
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> House Republicans released a proposal Tuesday that would balance the budget in nine years — but only by making large cuts to entitlement programs, including Medicare, that President Trump vowed not to touch.

It’s impossible not to touch medicare because the interest on the debt is about to skyrocket over the next 3-5 years, thanks in no small part to tax “reform.”

What’s happening, and what’s going to happen to the extreme in the next decade, is that fewer and fewer people are going to control the money supply in this country. This is incompatible with democracy. When a few people are responsible for deciding how money circulates through an economy, it gives them enormous power. They can decide how money is spent in shaping the political system, first and foremost. But they also decide which laborers get money and how much, who gets food and housing and how much they pay for it. They can even decide how you move around your community, which roads you take and how you pay for that, too. It’s leverage. And we’re about to be facing a very serious existential crisis. Marx would have referred to this as the crisis of capitalism.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38020 "2018-06-20T13:27:35Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Also, on right-wing media the assertion is repeated that as long as you go to a port of entry this won’t happen. Is that correct? Because other outlets are saying even you go to the port this happens.

A spokesperson\* from the WH Communications department was on PBS NewsHour last night defending their “not really a policy – it’s all the Democrats fault” policy, and she must have used the words “point of entry” 50 times in 2 minutes. So, yeah.

\*Who was a hottie. Looks like Trump found Hope Hicks 2.0.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38021 "2018-06-20T14:48:36Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2018/06/19/house-gop-plan-would-cut-medicare-social-security-to-balance-budget/?utm\_term=.4da0739f2917](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2018/06/19/house-gop-plan-would-cut-medicare-social-security-to-balance-budget/?utm_term=.4da0739f2917)
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> Get used to this: Medicare and Medicaid are going to start facing the budget axe, and there’s probably no way around it.

Great. I’m 64 this year.

Sorry folks, if/when I end up with some major medical event, I’ll try to die quietly, without any fuss or bother.

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