# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38022 "2018-06-20T16:04:58Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Great. I’m 64 this year.
> 
> Sorry folks, if/when I end up with some major medical event, I’ll try to die quietly, without any fuss or bother.

I’m your age, but I intend to run up huge medical bills then declare bankruptcy. I will enjoy being a burden on those bastards.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38023 "2018-06-20T16:39:42Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> …I’ll try to die quietly, without any fuss or bother.

What part of Minnesota do you live in?

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38024 "2018-06-20T17:12:18Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> A spokesperson\* from the WH Communications department was on PBS NewsHour last night defending their “not really a policy – it’s all the Democrats fault” policy, and she must have used the words “point of entry” 50 times in 2 minutes. So, yeah.
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> \*Who was a hottie. Looks like Trump found Hope Hicks 2.0.

Wasn’t that Mercedes Schlapp? Head the Comms office and wife of Matt Schlapp the head of the American Consrvative Union. Both heavy hitting lobbyists.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38025 "2018-06-20T17:26:16Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> Wasn’t that Mercedes Schlapp? Head the Comms office and wife of Matt Schlapp the head of the American Consrvative Union. Both heavy hitting lobbyists.

I just went back and checked the video, and you’re right. It gave her title as “White House Director of Strategic Communications.”

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38026 "2018-06-20T17:31:14Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Used to be the US had a right wing and a less-right wing, with a seminal point of reference due left circa the Enlightenment (negroes excepted, but watayagonnado). The rightmost wing went full Nazi, so obviously the original point of reference looks smaller to them now, as seen from a rapidly receding telescope. Political physics.

Back in the 1790s, the USA was a Liberal country, in that it had repudiated Monarchy, Mercantilism, and the Established Church in favor of Republicanism, Capitalism, and Religious Freedom.

These days, in the UK the power of the Monarchy has further eroded, the power of Parliament has increased, and the responsibility of Parliament to the average person has increased as well, but this isn’t Republicanism because shut up. Mercantilism died with the Empire, and the Established Church has to import priests and is no longer a significant force in society going by attendance rates. My point is, what used to be Liberal is now established fact throughout the Western world, even in the UK, such that even Conservatives can claim those ideas as their own.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38027 "2018-06-20T17:33:03Z")

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Mercedes Schlapp? Isn’t she on the faculty at Durmstrang?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38028 "2018-06-20T17:41:03Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> Wasn’t that Mercedes Schlapp? Head the Comms office and wife of Matt Schlapp the head of the American Consrvative Union. Both heavy hitting lobbyists.

And enemy number one on Kathy Griffin’s enemies list. The Schlapps were at the White House Press Dinner and claimed to get up and walk out in a huff, when actually all they did was to leave the ballroom and go to the bar, where they encountered Kathy Griffin, and the two women got into a screeching fight.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38029 "2018-06-20T17:44:04Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> What’s happening, and what’s going to happen to the extreme in the next decade, is that fewer and fewer people are going to control the money supply in this country. This is incompatible with democracy. When a few people are responsible for deciding how money circulates through an economy, it gives them enormous power. They can decide how money is spent in shaping the political system, first and foremost. But they also decide which laborers get money and how much, who gets food and housing and how much they pay for it. They can even decide how you move around your community, which roads you take and how you pay for that, too. It’s leverage. And we’re about to be facing a very serious existential crisis. Marx would have referred to this as the crisis of capitalism.

The road to serfdom indeed.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38030 "2018-06-21T01:23:52Z")

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Kirstjen Nielsen went to a Mexican restaurant Tuesday night, and got heckled with calls of “shame, shame, shame”:

Conservative pundit Erick Erickson put the situation into an interesting perspective:

> [@](#):
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> Erick Erickson  
> ‏Verified account  
> @EWErickson  
> Hey progressives, you do understand, I hope, that when you target gov’t employees for harassment, show up at restaurants to protest and intimidate cabinet members, go to their homes, etc. you’re…ummm…behaving like you might be wearing a brown shirt.  
> 5:22 AM - 20 Jun 2018

[https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1009411172360212480](https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1009411172360212480)

First: amazing that he can be certain those people unhappy with the Homeland Security Secretary’s performance were progressives, as opposed to maybe “people unhappy with the Homeland Security Secretary’s performance.” Something to do with their pronunciation of “shame,” perhaps?

Second: who knew that what the Brownshirts did, back in Nazi Germany, was to heckle people in restaurants…? Can’t imagine why they have so vicious a reputation.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38031 "2018-06-21T01:32:50Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> What part of Minnesota do you live in?

Texas, actually. Just dump me next to a fire ant mound; there’ll be nothing left but bones within 48 hours.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38032 "2018-06-21T01:47:47Z")

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Flee.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38033 "2018-06-21T01:50:19Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Kirstjen Nielsen went to a Mexican restaurant Tuesday night, and got heckled with calls of “shame, shame, shame”:
> 
> Conservative pundit Erick Erickson put the situation into an interesting perspective:
> 
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1009411172360212480)
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> First: amazing that he can be certain those people unhappy with the Homeland Security Secretary’s performance were progressives, as opposed to maybe “people unhappy with the Homeland Security Secretary’s performance.” Something to do with their pronunciation of “shame,” perhaps?
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> Second: who knew that what the Brownshirts did, back in Nazi Germany, was to heckle people in restaurants…? Can’t imagine why they have so vicious a reputation.

…but it’s unfair to compare ICE to the Nazis because they are just following orders.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38034 "2018-06-21T02:37:00Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Kirstjen Nielsen went to a Mexican restaurant Tuesday night, and got heckled with calls of “shame, shame, shame”:
> 
> Conservative pundit Erick Erickson put the situation into an interesting perspective:
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> [x.com](https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1009411172360212480)
> 
> First: amazing that he can be certain those people unhappy with the Homeland Security Secretary’s performance were progressives, as opposed to maybe “people unhappy with the Homeland Security Secretary’s performance.” Something to do with their pronunciation of “shame,” perhaps?
> 
> Second: who knew that what the Brownshirts did, back in Nazi Germany, was to heckle people in restaurants…? Can’t imagine why they have so vicious a reputation.

They were acknowledged Democratic Socialists who organized the public shaming.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38035 "2018-06-21T02:51:34Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> They were acknowledged Democratic Socialists who organized the public shaming.

Cite? From something other than a Russian Bot on Facebook, please.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38036 "2018-06-21T06:19:03Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> Cite? From something other than a Russian Bot on Facebook, please.

> [@"\[The Telegraph (UK)](#):
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> ([https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/20/protesters-hecklekirstjennielsen-child-separation-policy-eats/amp/](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/20/protesters-hecklekirstjennielsen-child-separation-policy-eats/amp/))"]Activists from Metro DC Democratic Socialists of America confronted Nielsen at MXDC Cocina Mexicana restaurant and attempted to disrupt her dinner while she was surrounded by staff and security.

Other sources, such as the [venerable Trib](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-homeland-security-kirstjen-nielsen-mexican-restaurant-20180620-story,amp.html), noted that the other diners applauded the protest.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38037 "2018-06-21T06:46:26Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> They were acknowledged Democratic Socialists who organized the public shaming.

_Good_. We need more groups willing to organize and shame fascists in public.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38038 "2018-06-21T07:05:50Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> They were acknowledged Democratic Socialists who organized the public shaming.

Great. So what?

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38039 "2018-06-21T09:00:59Z")

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Fucking Poe is ruining political discourse, if you ask me.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38040 "2018-06-21T14:39:06Z")

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What can possibly go wrong here? :dubious:

‘Unite the Right’ organizer gets approval for rally anniversary event in D.C.

> **[‘Unite the Right’ organizer gets approval for rally anniversary event in D.C.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/unite-the-right-organizer-gets-approval-for-rally-anniversary-event-in-dc/2018/06/20/597a1b1a-74a7-11e8-9780-b1dd6a09b549_story.html)**
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> Park Service says ‘white civil rights’ gathering can be held across from White House a year after Charlottesville march.

> [@](#):
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> An organizer of last year’s deadly white supremacist gathering in Charlottesville has received initial approval from the National Park Service to hold a rally across from the White House on Aug. 12, the anniversary of last year’s event.
> 
> Jason Kessler, who organized the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville with Richard Spencer and other white supremacist leaders, submitted a National Mall Special Event permit request on May 8 to hold a “white civil rights” rally in Lafayette Square “protesting civil rights abuse in Charlottesville.”
> 
> …
> 
> Hundreds of white nationalist marchers engaged in violent clashes and street battles with counterprotesters at the last year’s rally in Charlottesville while police initially stood by and the fights accelerated. Later that day, after the rally had been shut down by law enforcement, authorities said that James Alex Fields Jr., a self-identified Nazi, drove his car into a throng of anti-fascist marchers, killing 32-year-old Heather Heyer and injuring dozens of others.
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> A Virginia state police helicopter that had been monitoring events in Charlottesville crashed later that day, killing two state troopers inside.
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> Kessler applied to hold an anniversary rally in Charlottesville, but the city denied his request.  
> …

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38041 "2018-06-21T17:24:29Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Great. So what?

Because \*\*Sherrerd \*\*said they wanted evidence that the protesters were progressives. Do try to keep up.

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