# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38482 "2018-08-04T09:01:52Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I was _wondering_ why my copy of Windows 10 came with a Nazi flag…

I thought that was [windows 7](https://xkcd.com/528/).

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38483 "2018-08-04T15:04:47Z")

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> [@](#):
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> On Tuesday, (Kris) Kobach likely becomes the Republican nominee for governor of Kansas. Two terms of Sam Brownback setting all kinds of records for worst governor ever, and the Kansas GOP be like, “Hold my beer”.

Stolen from elsewhere.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38484 "2018-08-04T23:04:18Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Is the concern that Ellis is making rulings that will tend to favor conviction, or that they will tend to favor acquittal?

Acquittal, but if that question has to be asked, then maybe Ellis is less biased than I thought.

> [@elucidator](#):
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> My nickel says the evidence is so strong the prosecution can handle the most restricting conditions. Cut them no slack at all, and they still win, and he doesn’t get all restless dreaming of appeals and reversals.

Sounds good to me.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38485 "2018-08-05T00:20:50Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Is the concern that Ellis is making rulings that will tend to favor conviction, or that they will tend to favor acquittal?

> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Acquittal, but if that question has to be asked, then maybe Ellis is less biased than I thought.

No, I had supposed acquittal, too, but then you got me all confused by bringing up the idea of Ellis making reversible errors (which when reversed, can only undo a conviction).

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38486 "2018-08-05T02:41:48Z")

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The jury asked the judge if they could have a birthday cake to celebrate the birthday of one of the jurors. Juries that have birthday parties are happy juries. And happy juries aren’t worried that one or two of their members are going to screw things up and hang the deliberations. Happy juries are good for the prosecution.

> **[Manafort trial Day 3: Let them eat cake!](https://m.dailykos.com/stories/1785478)**
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> Paul Manafort was in desperate financial straights when he signed up to work as Donald Trump's campaign chair supposedly for free (nothing’s ever free in politics). That's what Heather Washkuhn, Manafort's bookkeeper since 2011, told jurors...

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38487 "2018-08-05T13:05:40Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> New York man flying Nazi flag outside his house claims he’s not racist [and was only flying the flag because he was “hacked”.](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/new-york-man-flew-nazi-flag-house-now-claims-hacked/)
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> You just can’t fix this level of stupid.

I keep a Nazi flag on hand for just such an eventuality. I also have a USSR hammer and sickle to notify the world that my toilet is plugged, and a Union Jack to show that I am out of tea.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38488 "2018-08-05T18:52:34Z")

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Right wingers are spreading the lie that Trump has donated his entire 2018 salary to Veterans’ cemeteries. Snopes shows that it isn’t any truer now than it was at this time last year.  
[Did President Donald Trump Donate His Entire $400,000 Salary to Rebuild Military Cemeteries? | Snopes.com](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-salary-military-cemeteries/)?

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38489 "2018-08-05T21:51:57Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> No, I had supposed acquittal, too, but then you got me all confused by bringing up the idea of Ellis making reversible errors (which when reversed, can only undo a conviction).

Oh, of course—head smack for me. (Hey! smiley! :smack: )

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38490 "2018-08-06T19:05:13Z")

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So now the narrative is that the QAnon conspiracy plot is a prank by leftists to make right wingers look stupid. I didn’t know right wingers needed any help to look stupid.

> **[People Think This Whole QAnon Conspiracy Theory Is A Prank On Trump Supporters](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/its-looking-extremely-likely-that-qanon-is-probably-a)**
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> "What the fuck is wrong with boomers?"

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38491 "2018-08-06T19:32:26Z")

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Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn: “Women don’t want equal pay.”  
I bet she gets equal pay for being a member of Congress.

> **[GOP Congresswoman: Women 'Don't Want' Equal Pay Laws](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marsha-blackburn-equal-pay-laws_n_3375167?ncid=engmodushpmg00000003)**
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> GOP Congresswoman: Women 'Don't Want' Equal Pay Laws

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38492 "2018-08-06T19:42:03Z")

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The Attorney General of New Jersey, Gurbir Grewal, is a Sikh. Two New York radio commentators couldn’t remember his name, so they called him “the guy with the turban”, and then said, “Listen, and if that offends you then don’t wear the turban and maybe I’ll remember your name.”

> **[Radio hosts who called NJ attorney general ‘turban man’ back on air](https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/400571-radio-hosts-who-called-new-jersey-attorney-general-turban-man/)**
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> The hosts of a popular New Jersey radio station who were suspended last month after they referred to the state’s Sikh attorney general as “turban man” are reportedly back on air. The Ass…

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38493 "2018-08-06T20:23:33Z")

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A Michigan Republican state legislator attempted to bring an unregistered, loaded gun onto a plane. The county prosecutor who refused to prosecute him is a campaign donor.

> **[Emmet County Prosecutor in Chatfield Airport Gun Case is a Campaign Donor -...](https://progressmichigan.org/2018/08/40414/)**
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> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE News from Progress Michigan August 6, 2018 Contact: Sam Inglot, 616-916-0574, sam@progressmichigan.org Emmet County Prosecutor in

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38494 "2018-08-06T20:27:49Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> A Michigan Republican state legislator attempted to bring an unregistered, loaded gun onto a plane. The county prosecutor who refused to prosecute him is a campaign donor.  
> [http://www.progressmichigan.org/2018/08/40414/](http://www.progressmichigan.org/2018/08/40414/)

Well, Trump has been doing an excellent job of showing that the law is more of a “suggestion”, so why _not_ do this? And more importantly, is there anyone who can hold this guy responsible?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38495 "2018-08-07T12:47:37Z")

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Also posted in the Mueller investigation thread:

[Fox host asks how Trump is supposed to talk to Mueller if he can’t lie](https://shareblue.com/trump-talk-mueller-lie-perjury-fox-mcdowell-outnumbered/)

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> Then, “Outnumbered” co-host Dagen McDowell made the incredible claim that special counsel Robert Mueller is setting a “perjury trap” for Trump — just because Trump is a serial liar who probably can’t even stop himself from lying under oath.
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> “How in the world could he ever cooperate, and sit down with Mueller for an interview, knowing that if you tell one lie to Bob Mueller, he will move to file charges?” McDowell asked.

How indeed could he escape the dastardly “perjury trap” Mueller has set for him?

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> “He could not tell a lie,” suggested Democratic strategist Jessica Tarlov. “That’s always an option.”

Hey now, that’s just crazy talk.

Our good friend Newt is also saying it would be “unwise” for the President to “walk into a perjury trap” ([see the last 10-15 seconds of this clip](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/08/04/gingrich_on_mueller_interview_trump_unwise_to_walk_into_perjury_trap.html)). Why is it that even Republicans are assuming Trump can’t avoid lying under oath?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38496 "2018-08-07T13:07:11Z")

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Yeah, “perjury trap”! Yeah, when you go to court and put your hand on the Bible and swear to tell the truth, that’s just a goddammed _ **perjury trap** _! Not fair (especially to people who have something to hide). I say abolish the court system and all judges! Yeah!

"Why is it that even Republicans are assuming Trump can’t avoid lying under oath? "  
Gotta admit that’s one thing they’ve got straight.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38497 "2018-08-07T14:25:45Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Why is it that even Republicans are assuming Trump can’t avoid lying under oath?

Because he can’t and they know he can’t. Anyone with more than two working brain cells knew Trump had absolutely no relationship with the truth long before he entered politics. But that’s fine, because you know, the other side lies too. So, if both sides contain liars, the right absolutely has to have the very best liar there is. None of this lying only 40% of the time. Anything less than 98% deliberate misstatements or outright lies is just phoning it in. MAGA Og Damn It!

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38498 "2018-08-07T15:04:50Z")

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I must say, you really to respect the modern right’s ability to twist words and rebrand. It’s not “forcing the President to tell the fucking truth for once”, it’s a “perjury trap” - and suddenly an objectively good thing sounds like calculating evil. Goebbels would be in awe.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38499 "2018-08-07T17:10:12Z")

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I think the implication of a “perjury trap” is an effort to get the defendant to make some minor error and to then try to expand that error into a perjury.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38500 "2018-08-07T17:56:50Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I think the implication of a “perjury trap” is an effort to get the defendant to make some minor error and to then try to expand that error into a perjury.

Trump does not make minor errors. Nobody makes bigger and better errors than Trump.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/38501 "2018-08-07T17:58:05Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I think the implication of a “perjury trap” is an effort to get the defendant to make some minor error and to then try to expand that error into a perjury.

And they know how it’s done, too. 😉

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