# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1964
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39262 "2018-10-10T02:00:49Z")
Dude. The whole point of being a religious fanatic is to _not_ have to think about things. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39263 "2018-10-10T02:12:47Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Dude. The whole point of being a religious fanatic is to _not_ have to think about things. Yep. I mean, who are we to doubt God’s plan? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39264 "2018-10-10T02:28:30Z")
Long as I’m not sure, I’m still sane. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39265 "2018-10-10T11:28:45Z")
[ **The Trump Campaign Says Exploiting Hacked Emails Is Free Speech** _Lawyers for the campaign asserted in court papers a right to disclose “even stolen information.”_](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/10/trump-campaign-defends-wikileaks-use-hacked-dnc-emails/572587/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAtlantic+%28The+Atlantic+-+Master+Feed%29) > [@](#): > > In a motion to dismiss a new lawsuit accusing President Trump’s campaign team of illegally conspiring with Russian agents to disseminate stolen emails during the election, Trump campaign lawyers have tried out a new defense: free speech. > > The lawsuit, filed last month by two donors and one employee of the Democratic National Committee, alleges that the Trump campaign, along with former Trump adviser Roger Stone, worked with Russia and WikiLeaks to publish hacked DNC emails, thereby violating their privacy. > > But the Trump campaign, represented by Jeffrey Baltruzak, Michael A. Carvin, Nikki L. McArthur, and Vivek Suri, all of the law firm Jones Day, responded in a brief filed Tuesday that the campaign can’t be held legally responsible for WikiLeaks’ publication of the DNC emails. > > Furthermore, the Trump lawyers argued, the First Amendment protects the campaign’s “right to disclose information—even stolen information—so long as (1) the speaker did not participate in the theft and (2) the information deals with matters of public concern.” > … :smack: ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39266 "2018-10-10T11:49:48Z")
> [@](#): > > {…} Furthermore, the Trump lawyers argued, the First Amendment protects the campaign’s “right to disclose information—even stolen information—so long as (1) the speaker did not participate in the theft and (2) the information deals with matters of public concern.” {…} Loath as I am to agree with anything they say … I’m immediately having flashbacks to [_New York Times Co. v. United States_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times_Co._v._United_States) and the _Report of the Office of the Secretary of Defense Vietnam Task Force_, AKA the [‘Pentagon Papers’](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers). The precedent, pretty much, already exists. CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39267 "2018-10-10T16:07:38Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Loath as I am to agree with anything they say … I’m immediately having flashbacks to [_New York Times Co. v. United States_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times_Co._v._United_States) and the _Report of the Office of the Secretary of Defense Vietnam Task Force_, AKA the [‘Pentagon Papers’](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers). > > The precedent, pretty much, already exists. Yep. There’s pretty long-standing precedent that it’s one thing to actually steal the information, but it’s quite another to publish information that other people have stolen. The _Guardian_, the _Washington Post_, and the _New York Times_ all published stories based on the information that Edward Snowden stole from the United States government. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39268 "2018-10-10T18:24:58Z")
Ron DeSantis wrote a book defending slavery. > **[GOP nominee for governor revealed as author of book excusing slavery](https://americanindependent.com/florida-republican-ron-desantis-slavery-apologist/)** > > In addition to defending slavery, Florida Republican Ron DeSantis also railed against women's rights and anti-discrimination laws. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39269 "2018-10-10T18:31:59Z")
Tom Cotton claims the accusations against Kavanaugh were created by Chuck Schumer. > **[Tom Cotton's new Kavanaugh conspiracy theory quickly unravels](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/tom-cottons-new-kavanaugh-conspiracy-theory-quickly-unravels-msna1152431)** > > Tom Cotton's connect-the-dots conspiracy theory isn't just silly, it's based on a foundation of factual errors. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39270 "2018-10-10T18:45:03Z")
Lesbian, Native American, kick-boxing lawyer Sharice Davids is running for Congress. A Republican state committee member sent the following to a Democratic committee member: “Little Ms. Pritchett – you and your comrades[‘] stealth attack on Yoder is going to blow up in your leftist face[s],” Kalny wrote, referring to incumbent Rep. Kevin Yoder (R). “The REAL REPUBLICANS will remember what the scum DEMONRATS tried to do to Kavanaugh in November. Your radical socialist kick boxing lesbian Indian will be sent back packing to the reservation!!!” > **[Kansas Republican says Democratic Native American candidate should be sent...](https://thinkprogress.org/gop-official-racist-attack-47827687c7e2/)** > > Sharice Davids is poised to become Kansas' first LGBTQ member of Congress. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39271 "2018-10-10T18:55:36Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Lesbian, Native American, kick-boxing lawyer Sharice Davids is running for Congress. A Republican state committee member sent the following to a Democratic committee member: > “Little Ms. Pritchett – you and your comrades[‘] stealth attack on Yoder is going to blow up in your leftist face[s],” Kalny wrote, referring to incumbent Rep. Kevin Yoder (R). “The REAL REPUBLICANS will remember what the scum DEMONRATS tried to do to Kavanaugh in November. Your radical socialist kick boxing lesbian Indian will be sent back packing to the reservation!!!” > [Kansas Republican says Democratic Native American candidate should be sent back ‘to the reservation’ – ThinkProgress](https://thinkprogress.org/gop-official-racist-attack-47827687c7e2/) What in the HELL is wrong with these people? I know trump turned over some rocks, but just how much glue have these people been sniffing? ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39272 "2018-10-10T20:44:17Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > What in the HELL is wrong with these people? I know trump turned over some rocks, but just how much glue have these people been sniffing? Democrats see Republicans as the opposition, and act accordingly. Republicans see Democrats as the enemy, and act accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39273 "2018-10-10T20:45:46Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > The _Guardian_, the _Washington Post_, and the _New York Times_ all published stories based on the information that Edward Snowden stole from the United States government. There is a nuance, though. Snowden’s information came from an agency operating within the government itself. The Democratic Party is not technically an entity operating under the aegis of one of the branches of the government. It is kind of a narrow distinction, since the president himself did belong to that Party, they are a significant fraction of the government, and they were operating in the scope of a quasi-governmental function (election). If one perceives that secret service protection, as is afforded the major candidates, represents a government-level position, one might infer a reduced expectation of privacy. But it still comes down to campaign finance disclosure: if the Orangetan’s campaign received this information without providing compensation to the hackers, that is an undisclosed contribution, possibly from a foreign source (illegal) and apparently of significant value. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39274 "2018-10-10T23:14:40Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > But it still comes down to campaign finance disclosure: if the Orangetan’s campaign received this information without providing compensation to the hackers, that is an undisclosed contribution, possibly from a foreign source (illegal) and apparently of significant value. ^This. The ‘free speech’ defense doesn’t take care of the ‘campaign finance law violation’ problem in any respect. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39275 "2018-10-11T06:21:15Z")
By Trump’s suggesting that Russia, if they’re listening, should obtain those emails, couldn’t an argument be made that he WAS a part of the theft? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39276 "2018-10-11T07:45:14Z")
Idaho’s Republican candidate for lieutenant governor [wants the death penalty for women who procure abortions.](https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/election/article207845019.html) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39277 "2018-10-11T10:41:40Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Idaho’s Republican candidate for lieutenant governor [wants the death penalty for women who procure abortions.](https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/election/article207845019.html) Not that logic is actually part and parcel of that idiot’s regimen, but if he truly feels that way, then he needs to also extend the stance to its logical extreme: investigate every woman for every menstrual cycle to determine if a fertilized ovum was “aborted” and, if so, what caused it to happen. That’s just as crazy as what the jackass already said. By the way, what little the Bible does actually have to say about abortion does not include it being a capital offense. But, hey, why point out facts about the Bible to the religious far right? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39278 "2018-10-11T12:08:28Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Idaho’s Republican candidate for lieutenant governor [wants the death penalty for women who procure abortions.](https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/election/article207845019.html) > [@Monty](#): > > Not that logic is actually part and parcel of that idiot’s regimen, but if he truly feels that way, then he needs to also extend the stance to its logical extreme: investigate every woman for every menstrual cycle to determine if a fertilized ovum was “aborted” and, if so, what caused it to happen. That’s just as crazy as what the jackass already said. > > By the way, what little the Bible does actually have to say about abortion does not include it being a capital offense. But, hey, why point out facts about the Bible to the religious far right? Ummm… where does he put the sperm donor in this scenario? Or does 100% of the responsibility belong to the woman? Why not just execute both of them? I know these people have always been around living under their slimy rocks, but the ubiquity of regular and social media means that their insanity is out there for everyone to see. Now this is [our world](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8_ENa7sVpug/S-YXpzpgD2I/AAAAAAAAMhI/ZYAwGJ5uEm0/s1600/thetriumphofdeath+21.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39279 "2018-10-11T13:05:38Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Ummm… where does he put the sperm donor in this scenario? Or does 100% of the responsibility belong to the woman? Why not just execute both of them? What about the man? How is he in any way responsible? If she hadn’t have been such a slut, she wouldn’t have gotten pregnant in the first place. Ugh. Now I have to take a shower. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39280 "2018-10-11T13:50:13Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Ummm… where does he put the sperm donor in this scenario? Or does 100% of the responsibility belong to the woman? Why not just execute both of them? > > I know these people have always been around living under their slimy rocks, but the ubiquity of regular and social media means that their insanity is out there for everyone to see. Now this is [our world](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8_ENa7sVpug/S-YXpzpgD2I/AAAAAAAAMhI/ZYAwGJ5uEm0/s1600/thetriumphofdeath+21.jpg). Yep. As I said, logic isn’t part of that idiot’s reality. > [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > What about the man? How is he in any way responsible? If she hadn’t have been such a slut, she wouldn’t have gotten pregnant in the first place. > > Ugh. Now I have to take a shower. And, no doubt, some idiot politician is going to advance those very “arguments” in all seriousness, because, you know, the man “is a wonderful person”. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39281 "2018-10-11T14:38:25Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Not that logic is actually part and parcel of that idiot’s regimen, but if he truly feels that way, then he needs to also extend the stance to its logical extreme: investigate every woman for every menstrual cycle to determine if a fertilized ovum was “aborted” and, if so, what caused it to happen. Finally, a dose of logic. But even an _unfertilized_ ovum is a potential human being. Refusal to fertilize the ovum is itself a violation of the Sixth Commandment. Those who rape a woman who otherwise refuses to let herself be impregnated are performing an important Christian service. Resisting a rapist, at least during the critical part of the menstrual cycle, warrants a charge of manslaughter. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1963) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1965)