# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2018, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39742 "2018-12-03T23:41:49Z")

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Ok, [this](https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2018-12-03/gop-laments-bushs-death-as-end-of-a-culture-of-civility) is, uh,  
_One of Bush’s former senior aides, Ron Kaufman, now a Republican national committeeman from Massachusetts, said Bush’s death marked “the end of a culture — a culture of civility.” Above all, Kaufman and other Republican leaders — many Trump supporters — lamented the partisan divide that dominates modern politics in America, made even starker when compared to the style and substance of Bush._

Yeah, “it’s not our fault!” Fuck you, shithead.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39743 "2018-12-04T01:40:42Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Ok, [this](https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2018-12-03/gop-laments-bushs-death-as-end-of-a-culture-of-civility) is, uh,  
> _One of Bush’s former senior aides, Ron Kaufman, now a Republican national committeeman from Massachusetts, said Bush’s death marked “the end of a culture — a culture of civility.” Above all, Kaufman and other Republican leaders — many Trump supporters — lamented the partisan divide that dominates modern politics in America, made even starker when compared to the style and substance of Bush._
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> Yeah, “it’s not our fault!” Fuck you, shithead.

Well, in Poppy’s time they merely dog-whistled to the neo-Confederates and neo-Nazis, and they refrained from saying they were fine people in public, especially after they defended foreign dictators and a party which exacerbated the AIDS Crisis. That’s called _manners_.

I could go on at infinite length, but I’ll just quote the Tao Te Ching:

> [@Tao Te Ching](#):
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> When Tao is lost, there is goodness. When goodness is lost, there is kindness. When kindness is lost, there is justice. When justice is lost, there is ritual. Now ritual is the husk of faith and loyalty, the beginning of confusion.

Civility is a ritual, nothing more.

As far as the partisan divide stuff goes, they’re just angry nobody’s shy about calling them out on their bullshit anymore.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39744 "2018-12-04T02:22:38Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Clinton Foundation shorted Craftsman stock, and financed whisper campaigns promoting Snap-On. Also, #_Craftsman IsTotally Gay_, stuff like that.

Craftsman? Not Snap-On Tools, former sponsor of Billie Jean King?

What, it’s not forty years ago? 😕

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39745 "2018-12-04T18:17:33Z")

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Given a choice between the two, I would go with Snap-On for better quality. IME, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39746 "2018-12-05T08:57:13Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> Tarrant County GOP in Texas attempting to remove surgeon (and city councilman) as vice-chairman of the county party.
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> Why? Well, he’s [Muslim](https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/texas-gop-in-disarray-as-party-members-demand-removal-of-practicing-muslim-leader/). That appears to be the only reason (although some later reports imply he is not sufficiently zealous in his support of Israel also).
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> Keeping making that tent bigger, guys.
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> I will note that the state GOP is trying to talk the locals out of this, but the county GOP is apparently having none of that.

It is charming, as the links inform that the movement has expanded to kick out [official having married a muslim and has expanded to include some of Shafi’s defenders.](https://www.star-telegram.com/news/state/texas/article222209090.html)

Strange this resembles the actions of a certain infamous political movement that also considered it blood polluting crime to marry the wrong religion.

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**Author:** ![Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/22d042/32.png) [@Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sandwich)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39747 "2018-12-05T09:38:57Z")

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> [@Ramira](#):
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> It is charming, as the links inform that the movement has expanded to kick out [official having married a muslim and has expanded to include some of Shafi’s defenders.](https://www.star-telegram.com/news/state/texas/article222209090.html)
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> Strange this resembles the actions of a certain infamous political movement that also considered it blood polluting crime to marry the wrong religion.

Hilarious. In Europe, we have to acknowledge some suspicions about Islam. Invariably concerned about possible illiberality. Only in Texas could anyone say with a straight face that practising Muslims are not socially conservative enough. 😃

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39748 "2018-12-05T17:41:58Z")

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[Ari Fleischer, former press secretary, makes a point.](https://twitter.com/AriFleischer/status/1070350900521263106)Or something. I can’t quite figure out what it is though:

'_Every VP since 1977 is at President Bush’s funeral, except one. Mondale, Quayle, Gore, Cheney, Biden, and Pence are there. The only one missing is President Reagan’s VP, George HW Bush._"

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39749 "2018-12-05T18:06:00Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> [Ari Fleischer, former press secretary, makes a point.](https://twitter.com/AriFleischer/status/1070350900521263106)Or something. I can’t quite figure out what it is though:
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> '_Every VP since 1977 is at President Bush’s funeral, except one. Mondale, Quayle, Gore, Cheney, Biden, and Pence are there. The only one missing is President Reagan’s VP, George HW Bush._"

Wow. Just wow.

Although you would think the guy would be on time for his own funeral, right?

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39750 "2018-12-05T18:28:08Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> [Ari Fleischer, former press secretary, makes a point.](https://twitter.com/AriFleischer/status/1070350900521263106)Or something. I can’t quite figure out what it is though:
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> '_Every VP since 1977 is at President Bush’s funeral, except one. Mondale, Quayle, Gore, Cheney, Biden, and Pence are there. The only one missing is President Reagan’s VP, George HW Bush._"

And he is factually wrong, unless someone else is in that casket.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39751 "2018-12-05T18:36:01Z")

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What better way to honor a late Republican president than to try to overturn democracy in Wisconsin?

> **[In Stunning Power Grab, Wisconsin Republicans Pass Bill Weakening New Governor](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/in-stunning-power-grab-wisconsin-republicans-pass-bill-weakening-new-governor_n_5c06e268e4b0680a7ec9a289)**
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> The bills take power away from newly elected Democrats.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39752 "2018-12-05T18:57:04Z")

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Also, today is the day that all Democrats are to be rounded up and imprisoned. According to QAnon lunatics. Can’t wait to see what happens when this prediction is wrong. Again.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39753 "2018-12-05T19:22:48Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> What better way to honor a late Republican president than to try to overturn democracy in Wisconsin?
> 
> [In Stunning Power Grab, Wisconsin Republicans Pass Bill Weakening New Governor | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/in-stunning-power-grab-wisconsin-republicans-pass-bill-weakening-new-governor_us_5c06e268e4b0680a7ec9a289)

“Maybe you do not care much about the future of the Republican Party. You should. Conservatives will always be with us. If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy.”  
― David Frum, Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39754 "2018-12-05T19:23:50Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> [Ari Fleischer, former press secretary, makes a point.](https://twitter.com/AriFleischer/status/1070350900521263106)Or something. I can’t quite figure out what it is though:
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> '_Every VP since 1977 is at President Bush’s funeral, except one. Mondale, Quayle, Gore, Cheney, Biden, and Pence are there. The only one missing is President Reagan’s VP, George HW Bush._"

Time to _think inside the box_.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39755 "2018-12-05T19:26:34Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> And he is factually wrong, unless someone else is in that casket.

He must be trying to get a job with Trump, as that is the number 1 qualification.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39756 "2018-12-05T19:59:04Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> Time to _think inside the box_.

I am too embarrassed to say how long it took me get that. :o

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39757 "2018-12-05T20:01:00Z")

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So, there they are, all ex-Presidents and their wives, seated in the very front. Obama, Carter, Bush, Clinton. Two empty seats awaiting the entrance of Himself, which after the appropriate time, occurs. Protocol? Because he isn’t just an ex-President, he is the President, the one who won the yuge electoral college landslide. Lesser folk are seated, then he makes his entrance…

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39758 "2018-12-05T20:06:40Z")

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Michelle iced him something nasty, though. That was kind of worth it.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39759 "2018-12-05T20:07:58Z")

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I _think_ that that Fleischer tweet was a joke. I think. Though of course, with Poe’s Law, you can never be sure.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39760 "2018-12-05T20:32:12Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> So, there they are, all ex-Presidents and their wives, seated in the very front. Obama, Carter, Bush, Clinton. Two empty seats awaiting the entrance of Himself, which after the appropriate time, occurs. Protocol? Because he isn’t just an ex-President, he is the President, the one who won the yuge electoral college landslide. Lesser folk are seated, then he makes his entrance…

He shook hands with both Obamas, Bill Clinton sort of looked at him to acknowledge him, and Hillary looked straight ahead without even acknowledging his existence.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/39761 "2018-12-05T21:12:48Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I _think_ that that Fleischer tweet was a joke. I think. Though of course, with Poe’s Law, you can never be sure.

I really don’t think it was. It would be a strange joke.

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