# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40082 "2019-01-10T01:04:35Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> [James Dobson, Founder Of Focus On The Family, Asks Christians To Fast For Trump](https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/atheism-secularism/james-dobson-founder-of-focus-on-the-family-asks-christians-to-fast-for-trump-7HKt_4Ol30iAU9bkuHDzAQ/?utm_source=Amplify&utm_medium=Intellectualist&utm_campaign=Twitter&utm_term=B-Magic)

I hope they fucking starve to death.

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**Author:** ![Lacunae\_Matata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lacunae\_Matata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lacunae_Matata)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40083 "2019-01-10T02:27:08Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> “Fun” 🙂
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> After I posted that, I skimmed a couple sources that said there is a process for the military to take over private property, but like regular eminent domain, the government is required to pay market value for the property. Apparently this process has been used in the past, and in fact there used to be a big ordnance production facility not far from where I currently live, which was built on land acquired by the military through this process in the 1940s. It sucks having the government take your property against your will, but at least they have to pay for it, so there’s that.

I don’t claim any level of legal nor economic scholarship, and this is purely anecdotal, but…

Back in Ye Olden Days, two branches of my immediate ancestors were displaced by the development of Camp Stewart/Fort Stewart/Camp Swampy. They were reimbursed for their land at market value.

By 1943 - when my grandparents married - the family farms (about 250 acres in Taylors Creek/300 acres in Willie, Georgia,) was worth about 5 acres and a 40-year-old house a county away. Like several generations preceding them, my great grandparents had sent their eldest son to university in 1930, but my grandfather attended trade school by way of charity in 1937.

“Market value” changes a lot in 2-3 years if government action changes demand and scarcity.

Granted, the family might have suffered reverses due to a lot of variables between 1940 and today. But generations of my family lived a solid middle class life on their little acreage before it was bought via eminent domain, and that action caused a significant drop in their economic circumstances.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40084 "2019-01-10T02:33:49Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> [James Dobson, Founder Of Focus On The Family, Asks Christians To Fast For Trump](https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/atheism-secularism/james-dobson-founder-of-focus-on-the-family-asks-christians-to-fast-for-trump-7HKt_4Ol30iAU9bkuHDzAQ/?utm_source=Amplify&utm_medium=Intellectualist&utm_campaign=Twitter&utm_term=B-Magic)

It would be more useful to get Trump to fast until his weight was somewhere close to 239 pounds.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40085 "2019-01-10T02:46:27Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> [James Dobson, Founder Of Focus On The Family, Asks Christians To Fast For Trump](https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/atheism-secularism/james-dobson-founder-of-focus-on-the-family-asks-christians-to-fast-for-trump-7HKt_4Ol30iAU9bkuHDzAQ/?utm_source=Amplify&utm_medium=Intellectualist&utm_campaign=Twitter&utm_term=B-Magic)
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> > [@](#):
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> > He also stated that the Lord was involved in the election of Trump and could protect him from impeachment.

Oh, I can believe the lord was involved in Trump’s election. The Dark Lord, I mean.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40086 "2019-01-10T03:05:09Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> If Jesus had a grave he’d be revolving in it.

That’s pretty funny. 😃

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**Author:** ![JB99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JB99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JB99)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40087 "2019-01-10T03:14:53Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> I think I know what you are trying to say here, but the military is already nationalized, I would think.

I don’t want to get into all the prohibitions and exceptions here, but the Cliff’s Notes version is that the federal military cannot perform domestic disaster relief and law enforcement without the specific permission of the President, and only when the state resources are unable to deal with the problem. (Eg the time the 101st Airborne had to escort kids to school because the state government was shitting on their civil rights).

Could the President just arbitrarily decide to declare martial law on the border because he felt like the border states wouldn’t / couldn’t enforce the law and maintain order? I have no idea. We already know Trump’s grasp on reality is limited at best.

> [@](#):
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> And I have enough respect for them (tired as I am of the constant “thank you for your service” any time someone mentions they are or were in the military) that I don’t think they’d obey “round up” orders from Trump.

I hope so. But the history of humanity does not give me a lot of faith on this point. I know plenty of soldiers who are Trump-worshipping idiots, and who would probably jump at the chance to be beat up some “commie libtards.” I’ve personally encountered soldiers who thought Obama was a card-carrying member of Al-Qaida. And there have been documented cases of soldiers who believed Obama was preparing to perpetrate genocide of white people and impose sharia law (see the aforementioned Oath Keepers, a racist hate group if ever there was one)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40088 "2019-01-10T06:46:02Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Isn’t James Dobson the guy who said that men should shower with their sons to make sure they don’t “turn gay”?

Anecdote: My Mom went to University of Texas in the late forties, kinfolks so proud they could bust. Anyway, UTex didn’t allow female freshmen to live off campus, female dorms or go home. Not lavishly appointed. Floors of spartan rooms with one communal shower. My Mom wrote home to her Mom after six months, that if she never saw another naked female in her life, it would be far too soon.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40089 "2019-01-10T14:40:47Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Isn’t James Dobson the guy who said that men should shower with their sons to make sure they don’t “turn gay”?

> [@elucidator](#):
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> Anecdote: My Mom went to University of Texas in the late forties, kinfolks so proud they could bust. Anyway, UTex didn’t allow female freshmen to live off campus, female dorms or go home. Not lavishly appointed. Floors of spartan rooms with one communal shower. My Mom wrote home to her Mom after six months, that if she never saw another naked female in her life, it would be far too soon.

Another success for the J Dobson anti-gay shower initiative!!

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40090 "2019-01-10T15:30:41Z")

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Texas county seeks to remove GOP vice chair because he’s a Muslim. No, that is explicitly the reason  
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/texas-county-gop-to-vote-on-proposal-to-remove-vice-chairman-because-he-is-muslim/ar-BBS37qN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/texas-county-gop-to-vote-on-proposal-to-remove-vice-chairman-because-he-is-muslim/ar-BBS37qN)

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> We don’t think he’s suitable as a practicing Muslim to be vice chair because he’d be the representative for ALL Republicans in Tarrant County, and not ALL Republicans in Tarrant County think Islam is safe or acceptable in the U.S., in Tarrant County, and in the TCGOP, and there are big questions surrounding exactly where Dr. Shafi’s loyalties lie, vis a vis Democrat and Republican policies,"

So you see, because GOPers in Texas have bigoted ideas about Muslims, he has to go! It’s just that simple, he doesn’t pass the religious test y’all.

By the same logic, it is A-OK that Trump represents ALL Republicans, and he is an impenetrable idiot. Got it.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40091 "2019-01-10T15:48:18Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> By the same logic, it is A-OK that Trump represents ALL Republicans, and _he is an impenetrable idiot_. Got it.

As are almost all Republicans, so it’s OK.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40092 "2019-01-10T18:50:02Z")

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_Protip:_ X-Men movies are not documentaries:

> [@Rep. Michael Burgess (R-TX)](#):
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> …But in the meantime, we have a problem, and the problem is the fact that the border that we saw it on your newsreels a few weeks ago how people coming up to the fence could simply melt through the fence, the wall is important…

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40093 "2019-01-10T19:00:58Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> _Protip:_ X-Men movies are not documentaries:

Maybe he was watching **Terminator 2**

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40094 "2019-01-10T20:13:08Z")

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And now, it appears that only Democrats are [fixated on an actual physical wall](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/01/republicans-democrats-obsessed-with-wall.html?via=homepage_taps_top).

> [@](#):
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> “I know the Democrats are hung up on calling it a wall, but I don’t care if they call it a gender-neutral palisade or a linear monument to climate change,” Brady, the top Republican member on the House Ways and Means Committee, said on Fox News. “In truth, we need more resources for border security.”

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40095 "2019-01-10T20:19:13Z")

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That’s what somebody other than Trump says (and yes, the Democrats are in favor of border security, but McConnell won’t bring up the bill for a vote). Only \*Trump \*is fixated on something he can call a wall.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40096 "2019-01-10T20:40:19Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> More proof that brains skipped both living generations of the Trump family:
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> > [@Dumbass Don Junior](#):
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> > Ford Cancels a $1.6 Billion Mexico Plant and Adds 700 Jobs in Michigan [http://fortune.com/2017/01/03/ford-c...o-plant-trump/](http://fortune.com/2017/01/03/ford-c...o-plant-trump/)
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> Now, class, who can tell me why this might not have been the best example of economic news for Junior to use…? Let’s not keep seeing the same hands…

When did Dumbass Don Junior post that?

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40097 "2019-01-10T20:41:07Z")

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That’s “Individual 1a” to you, Mister!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40098 "2019-01-10T22:28:33Z")

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Apparently this was a slip of the tongue

[King of Iowa](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/10/us/politics/steve-king-trump-immigration-wall.html)\* in the interview, said he was not a racist. … he said, he supports immigrants who enter the country legally and fully assimilate because what matters more than race is “the culture of America” based on values brought to the United States by whites from Europe.

“White nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization — how did that language become offensive?” Mr. King said. “Why did I sit in classes teaching me about the merits of our history and our civilization?”\*

Once it was pointed out to him what he said, he put out a statement that he did not support white supremacists, while quickly burning all the photos and negatives that showed a confederate battle flag on his desk.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40099 "2019-01-10T23:22:38Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40100 "2019-01-10T23:22:41Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> That’s pretty funny. 😃

If sacrilegious. (I did hesitate.) But, thanks.

(Also, I can’t have been the first person to make that joke! Just thinking about the doings of pretty much _any_ big-name evangelist brings the concept to mind…)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/40101 "2019-01-10T23:37:05Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> If sacrilegious. (I did hesitate.) But, thanks.
> 
> (Also, I can’t have been the first person to make that joke! Just thinking about the doings of pretty much _any_ big-name evangelist brings the concept to mind…)

You can’t have been the first in approx. 2000 years. But it struck me funny.

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