# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41185 "2019-05-30T13:41:01Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> He also wasn’t part because Newt was a Representative, not a Senator. 😉

Representatives take the role of prosecutors and defense attorneys during the trial in the Senate (with the Senators as the jury).

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41186 "2019-05-30T13:50:29Z")

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You know that census citizenship question which totally isn’t aimed at decreasing Democratic votes? Well, the GOP strategist who decided on that totally innocent question died recently and his daughter found his thumb drives and you might be surprised to find out that apparently his intentions were actually [to disadvantage Democrats](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/30/us/census-citizenship-question-hofeller.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage).

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41187 "2019-05-30T14:15:27Z")

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“President Trumpo” sounds like the name of the head clown at Ringling Bros.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41188 "2019-05-30T14:18:56Z")

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> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#):
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> When we look back someday at who broke the country, I wonder who we’ll blame more: Newt in the 90s or Mitch in the 10s.

Can’t it be both? It was a long, ongoing process.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41189 "2019-05-30T14:32:30Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> [More from FL state Senator Dennis Baxle](https://news.google.com/articles/CBMimQFodHRwczovL3d3dy5vcmxhbmRvd2Vla2x5LmNvbS9CbG9ncy9hcmNoaXZlcy8yMDE5LzA1LzIwL2xlYXZlLWl0LXRvLWZsb3JpZGEtcmVwdWJsaWNhbi1kZW5uaXMtYmF4bGV5LXRvLWZpbmQtYW4taW5jcmVkaWJseS1yYWNpc3QtcmVhc29uLXRvLWJhbi1hYm9ydGlvbnPSAagBaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub3JsYW5kb3dlZWtseS5jb20vQmxvZ3MvYXJjaGl2ZXMvMjAxOS8wNS8yMC9sZWF2ZS1pdC10by1mbG9yaWRhLXJlcHVibGljYW4tZGVubmlzLWJheGxleS10by1maW5kLWFuLWluY3JlZGlibHktcmFjaXN0LXJlYXNvbi10by1iYW4tYWJvcnRpb25zP21lZGlhPUFNUCtIVE1M?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen)y, introduced above:
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> Also recently,

The answer, obviously, is to make abortion illegal for white women and mandatory for black, brown, Mooslim, and non-English-speaking women. Not sure about them _orientals_– yeah, they’re smart an’ all, but there are an awful lot of them. Better include 'em, 'cause they’re smart enough to take over. We want white, Christian, high-school-edumacated working people.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41190 "2019-05-30T14:52:34Z")

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> [@Andy\_L](#):
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> Representatives take the role of prosecutors and defense attorneys during the trial in the Senate (with the Senators as the jury).

Yes, those that are members of the House Judiciary. However, Newt was not a member of this committee, being the Speaker (until his resignation from the Speakership in 1998).

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41191 "2019-05-30T14:57:35Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Yes, those that are members of the House Judiciary. However, Newt was not a member of this committee, being the Speaker (until his resignation from the Speakership in 1998).

Ah. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41192 "2019-05-30T16:32:10Z")

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I appreciate being reminded of that moment. Zoooooom…_SPLAT!_

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41193 "2019-05-30T19:55:09Z")

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“6 days ago”  
Georgia Congressional candidate is running ads with pictures of AOC and Bernie Sanders, saying, “I will fight Socialists in Congress like I fought terrorists” in Iraq, while showing him shooting a rifle.  
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/w/republican-candidate-harrison-floyd-seems-to-threaten-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/vp-AABOKm2](https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/w/republican-candidate-harrison-floyd-seems-to-threaten-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/vp-AABOKm2)

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41194 "2019-05-30T20:37:46Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Can’t it be both? It was a long, ongoing process.

No, but iut might be boith.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41195 "2019-05-30T20:38:35Z")

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All more evidence they can’t win with better ideas, only voter suppression and violence.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41196 "2019-05-30T21:09:32Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> All more evidence they can’t win with better ideas, only voter suppression and violence.

And it is not without the specific intent of putting some violent ideas out there. Not that they would want anyone to follow up on their ideas, oh, no, they would be shocked, shocked if someone were to actually follow through on the “metaphor” that they invoke.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41197 "2019-05-31T00:32:34Z")

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this is as good a place as any to bring up [this shit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E85cJBAWrK8&t=2m35s)

It is an inspiring short video that was displayed at a Fresno Grizzlies baseball game on Memorial Day, featuring a heartfelt speech by old Ronnie, which I have cued up to about thirty seconds before the objectionable part, in order for the meat of the intended message to be fully clear.

As he is saying “_… these are the enemies of freedom …_” we are treated to images of: a person (woman, I think) wearing a mask that says “antifa”; a picture of Kim Jong-un; a picture of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez; a picture of Fidel Castro; and two more images of black-clad street protesters.

Castro is buried in the ground. -un is fairly insignificant to us, other than the fact that Individual-1 wants to have sex with him. That leaves some of our own citizens, including an elected official, as the important enemies of our freedom.

And he wants to build the wall _where_?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41198 "2019-05-31T04:34:36Z")

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> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#):
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> When we look back someday at who broke the country, I wonder who we’ll blame more: Newt in the 90s or Mitch in the 10s.

There needs to be space for Karl Rove in there. It was he who developed the idea of a[permanent Republican majority](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/what-karl-rove-really-had_b_60947). Its his playbook that Mitch is following so successfully.

ETA: I mostly included the link as an introduction to Rove’s tactics, but reading it fully its amazing how prescient it given it was written 9 years before Trump’s election.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41199 "2019-05-31T05:03:58Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> He also wasn’t part because Newt was a Representative, not a Senator. 😉

That’s true. But AIUI, the impeachment managers (equivalent to the prosecuting attorney team, again, AIUI) are HoR members.

It’s also relevant to note that the articles of impeachment were voted on in the HoR on December 19, 1998. Gingrich relinquished his seat on January 3, 1999. So he would have been part of that vote.

And as a history professor, it seems unlikely (at least to me) that he would have been asked to be one of the impeachment managers even if he had retained his seat (and gavel).

Fun little anecdote: On Sunday, November 8, 1998, Harry Shearer opened his NPR radio program _Le Show_ with the announcement (to the best of my recollection): _Ladies and gentlemen, history was made in Washington this past week when Newt Gingrich impeached HIMSELF._

What it lacked in correctness about what “impeachment” means, it more than made up for in delighted guffaws from me. 😃

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41200 "2019-05-31T05:43:31Z")

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I mean, a simple bit of wiki research would help here. As I said earlier, the House members who worked on the impeachment trial were the Republican members of the House Judiciary Committee:

> **[Impeachment of Bill Clinton](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton)**
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> Bill Clinton, the 42nd president of the United States, was impeached by the United States House of Representatives of the 105th United States Congress on December 19, 1998, for "high crimes and misdemeanors". The House adopted two articles of impeachment against Clinton, with the specific charges against Clinton being lying under oath and obstruction of justice. Two other articles had been considered but were rejected by the House vote.
> Clinton's impeachment came after a formal House inqui...

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41201 "2019-05-31T14:29:26Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> It’s also relevant to note that the articles of impeachment were voted on in the HoR on December 19, 1998. Gingrich relinquished his seat on January 3, 1999. So he would have been part of that vote.

He had already bailed and gone home. The vote (in a lame duck session, including by members who had already been voted out of office for saying they’d do it) was held without a functioning Speaker.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41202 "2019-05-31T19:21:19Z")

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MAY 31, 2019  
Heineken International and Sun Maid Raisins have withdrawn their sponsorships from the Fresno Grizzlies after the Grizzlies ran a video including AOC among American enemies. Remember, this is Fresno. Sun Maid Raisins are a BIG deal in Fresno.

> **[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez video spurs more sponsors to drop Fresno Grizzlies](https://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-heineken-fresno-grizzlies-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-video-20190531-story.html)**
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> The fallout continues for the minor league baseball team that earlier this week showed a video that suggested that Rep.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41203 "2019-05-31T22:34:49Z")

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Florida State Rep. Mike Hill (R-Pensacola) jokes about filing a bill to execute gay people:

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> A citizen comments: “In 1 Corinthians, it says that a man who has an affair with another man will be put to death.”
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> Hill’s response?
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> “It says that in the Old Testament, too.”
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> Another attendee asks, “Can you introduce legislation?”
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> Chuckles are audible. The state representative joins the laughter. “I wonder how that would go over?” Hill says.

> **[Rep. Mike Hill facing bipartisan condemnation after joking about filing bill...](https://thecapitolist.com/rep-mike-hill-facing-bipartisan-condemnation-after-joking-about-filing-bill-allowing-gays-to-be-executed/)**
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> Florida State Rep. Mike Hill (R-Pensacola) has been no stranger to controversy in his time in the Florida Legislature, filing a bill to protect Confederate monuments, running viciously negative cam…

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41204 "2019-05-31T23:29:59Z")

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“Awww come on! We was just joking around! Right boys? You libtards are so sensitive-like”

\<punches person hard in the arm\>

This is the Republican Party. A party of high school bullies and cowards.

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