# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41365 "2019-06-23T22:08:37Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> There are enough Democrats to pass the bill, but not enough to form a quorum to get the bill considered.

Here’s the background. It’s about votes. With the Pubbies, it’s always about votes. :rolleyes:

> [@](#):
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> …Eleven Republicans refused to show up to work on Thursday and went into hiding in protest of HB2020, a bill that establishes a carbon cap, in order to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Industries that emit carbon dioxide – power plants, manufacturers, etc. – would have to buy an “allowance” for each metric ton emitted, thereby reducing the incentive to produce carbon dioxide in the first place.
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> The goal of the bill is to cut greenhouse gas emissions 80% by 2050 versus 1990 numbers.
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> But the purchasing of allowances would likely mean costs are passed down to the consumers, and prices for gas or diesel would increase – a position untenable for the Republicans holding out from a vote. Rural Oregonians, who drive longer distances, and farmers, who use heavy machinery, would likely be disproportionately affected.
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> Without a quorum, the legislature cannot legally vote on the bill.  
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> “Public servants are chosen by and entrusted to represent their constituents, and working for the people of Oregon is an honor and a privilege,” Kate Kondayen, deputy communications director for Oregon Gov. Kate Brown, said in a statement Tuesday as legislators threatened the walkout. \*\*“Playing games and avoiding tough conversations is a dereliction of that responsibility and trust.”  
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> “Governor Brown has always dealt fairly and transparently with the Senate Republicans, and trusted them when they gave their word they wouldn’t engage in further walkouts earlier this session,” Kondayen continued. “She expects them to honor their word and if not is prepared to call upon those resources available to her – including authorizing state troopers to bring senators back to the Capitol and, if necessary, calling legislators back to Salem to complete their work over the summer.”  
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> [Source](https://a.msn.com/r/2/AADi7VV?m=en-us&referrerID=InAppShare)

My bold.

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**Author:** ![Asylum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@Asylum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asylum)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41366 "2019-06-24T00:13:13Z")

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Not only are militias threatening Dem legislators in Oregon, the Oregon GOP is [cheering on the threats](https://mobile.twitter.com/Oregon_GOP/status/1142238460020838400). They’re not even hiding how fascistic they’ve become.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41367 "2019-06-24T00:31:02Z")

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> [@Asylum](#):
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> Not only are militias threatening Dem legislators in Oregon, the Oregon GOP is [cheering on the threats](https://mobile.twitter.com/Oregon_GOP/status/1142238460020838400). They’re not even hiding how fascistic they’ve become.

Many, no doubt, see this as encouragement that their President need never leave office. All it will take is enough armed militias…and, of course, the “right” commanders in local (D.C.) law enforcement and the military, to tell their own forces to stand down.

Watch for Trump to commend the Oregon militias in the warmest of terms.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41368 "2019-06-24T01:23:56Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> This is different tho. I. This situaion, the GOP has reneged on a promise not to do this. They got concesions from the Dems and now, by fleeing, are failing to do what they promised. They are bad faith actors and should not be trusted again.
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> And that’s in addition to threatening violence.

Not only that but there are provisions in the Oregon Constitution that the governor is following, whereas the Wisconsin Constitution had no such language.

Also, since we’re making false equivalencies, it should be known that the reason Wisconsin Democrats fled the state was because Republicans were attempting to bust up unions. Whereas Oregon Republicans left the state because they don’t care about climate change.

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**Author:** ![Gus\_Gusterson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85f322/32.png) [@Gus\_Gusterson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gus_Gusterson)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41369 "2019-06-24T12:53:15Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> This stands for No Fucking Joke. Did I invent this? (Seriously, I don’t know if I did. Has anyone encountered it elsewhere?)

Did you invent NFJ? [NFW](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nfw).

[Urban Dictionary: NFJ](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=NFJ)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41370 "2019-06-24T17:53:32Z")

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Meghan McCain’s husband, Ben Domenech, whose father is a State Department official, publishes the right wing rag The Federalist. He is now selling T shirts that say “Kamala is a Cop”. Can somebody explain to me how this is an insult?

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41371 "2019-06-24T18:04:13Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Meghan McCain’s husband, Ben Domenech, whose father is a State Department official, publishes the right wing rag The Federalist. He is now selling T shirts that say “Kamala is a Cop”. Can somebody explain to me how this is an insult?

He figures it will hurt her with knee jerk anti-cop progressive Democratic voters in the primaries, also with minority voters. Republicans are ascairt of Harris.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41372 "2019-06-24T18:54:31Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Meghan McCain’s husband, Ben Domenech, whose father is a State Department official, publishes the right wing rag The Federalist. He is now selling T shirts that say “Kamala is a Cop”. Can somebody explain to me how this is an insult?

Well ACAB, but I don’t suppose that’s what’s implied here.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41373 "2019-06-24T22:10:01Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> He figures it will hurt her with knee jerk anti-cop progressive Democratic voters in the primaries, also with minority voters. Republicans are ascairt of Harris.

\>Implying that the police force as an institution is not so fundamentally broken to be not worth salvaging

I mean, it’s what, every other day we get more evidence of how the cops treat black people?

And actual studies into it show that most urban areas suffer from both underpolicing ([the police cannot or will not solve urban murders](https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/08/10/u-s-homicide-clearance-rate-crisis/951681002/)) _and_ overpolicing ([arresting people for misdemeanors](https://theintercept.com/2019/01/13/misdemeanor-justice-system-alexandra-natapoff/), [taking in an average of $120 in court fines per person in a neighborhood](https://www.governing.com/topics/public-justice-safety/gov-ferguson-missouri-court-fines-budget.html), and it’s really not hard to find more examples of this).

“Kamala is a cop” probably has to do specifically with her actions as a DA, such as [jailing parents for truancy](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/31/kamala-harris-laughed-jailing-parents-truancy). Actions she laughed about. I don’t find it particularly funny, personally. To be a DA in today’s system, you have to put up with a lot of quite frankly _evil_ shit. Kamala did exactly that, and doesn’t seem to think she has any apologizing to do for it. She seems to think she did nothing wrong. And I don’t think that’s a great look, honestly.

We’re not reflexively or “knee-jerk” anti-cop. We’re anti-cop because we see what cops do.

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**Author:** ![mcgato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mcgato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mcgato)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41374 "2019-06-25T12:16:10Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> \>“Kamala is a cop” probably has to do specifically with her actions as a DA, such as [jailing parents for truancy](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/31/kamala-harris-laughed-jailing-parents-truancy). Actions she laughed about. I don’t find it particularly funny, personally. To be a DA in today’s system, you have to put up with a lot of quite frankly _evil_ shit. Kamala did exactly that, and doesn’t seem to think she has any apologizing to do for it. She seems to think she did nothing wrong. And I don’t think that’s a great look, honestly.

I do not believe that any parents were ever jailed for truancy of their children. [Snopes has a fairly good article on it.](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kamala-harris-homeless-mother/) Not that the truth will change too many minds, but there it is.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41375 "2019-06-25T13:44:23Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Meghan McCain’s husband, Ben Domenech, whose father is a State Department official, publishes the right wing rag The Federalist. He is now selling T shirts that say “Kamala is a Cop”. Can somebody explain to me how this is an insult?

#3 son used this as a short-hand explanation of why he doesn’t support her when his mom was big on her (she has since moved on to Warren, he is currently a Yang man but knows he’ll need to make a real choice at some point).

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**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41376 "2019-06-25T16:49:46Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Meghan McCain’s husband, Ben Domenech, whose father is a State Department official, publishes the right wing rag The Federalist. He is now selling T shirts that say “Kamala is a Cop”. Can somebody explain to me how this is an insult?

This same ‘charge’ could be laid against presidential candidate Amy Klobuchar. She served 8 years as Hennepin County Attorney before being elected Senator from Minnesota.

Currently, she’s too low in the polls for the Republicans to really start attacking her. But if she goes up, they’ll probably try to use this against her. (Personally, I think we need her on the Supreme Court eventually.)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41377 "2019-06-25T17:48:23Z")

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June 25, 2019  
Congressman Michael Burgess: Children being detained at the border are free to walk out the doors at any time, nobody is keeping them locked up.

> **[GOP rep: Children are free to leave migrant camps at ‘any time’](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/450160-gop-rep-children-are-free-to-leave-migrant-camps-at-any-time/)**
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> Rep. Michael Burgess (R-Texas) on Monday said that migrant children at a facility in Texas are “free to leave at any time” but don’t because they are receiving good care.“There’s not a lock on the …

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41378 "2019-06-25T18:01:35Z")

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> “There’s not a lock on the door,” the lawmaker said while defending the conditions at a facility he visited. “Any child is free to leave at any time. But they don’t and you know why? Because they’re well taken care of and yes at some point they are going to live with family, generally not mother or father but some family member, that’s a good thing.”

Has anyone told the kids they are free to leave?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41379 "2019-06-25T18:36:18Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Has anyone told the kids they are free to leave?

Has anyone told the guards?

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41380 "2019-06-25T18:44:21Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> June 25, 2019  
> Congressman Michael Burgess: Children being detained at the border are free to walk out the doors at any time, nobody is keeping them locked up.  
> [https://thehill.com/homenews/house/450160-gop-rep-children-are-free-to-leave-migrant-camps-at-any-time](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/450160-gop-rep-children-are-free-to-leave-migrant-camps-at-any-time)

“Any child is free to leave at any time. But they don’t and you know why?"

Maybe because they are three years old? Fucking asshole.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41381 "2019-06-25T18:45:56Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> “Any child is free to leave at any time. But they don’t and you know why?"
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> Maybe because they are three years old? Fucking asshole.

Well, whose fault is that?? Not the Republicans’!  
The kids should have been born earlier!

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41382 "2019-06-25T19:01:47Z")

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If you can’t support yourself and make your own decisions at three, you’re part of the problem. Get a job, get a work ethic, get some personal responsibility up in this bitch ! But noooo, it’s all “Mama, soy hungry” , expecting handouts, whining that they’ve shat their pants or complaining that the guards raped them, every fucking day. Instead of treating beshitted pants as an incentive to get out there and achieve, to be able to afford a new pair of pants.

Those people sicken me.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41383 "2019-06-25T19:25:39Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> If you can’t support yourself and make your own decisions at three, you’re part of the problem. Get a job, get a work ethic, get some personal responsibility up in this bitch ! But noooo, it’s all “Mama, soy hungry” , expecting handouts, whining that they’ve shat their pants or complaining that the guards raped them, every fucking day. Instead of treating beshitted pants as an incentive to get out there and achieve, to be able to afford a new pair of pants.
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> Those people sicken me.

Ogod, your post made me laugh and cry at the same time…

Reminds me of a true story. Decades ago, a college friend of mind–a young woman from New Jersey, \*very \*dry, sarcastic sense of humor-- turned to the 3-year-old daughter of another friend _(God, that baby has got to be well into her 40s today)_ and said, “Mary Lou, why don’t you go out and get a job? You’re nothing but a parasite on the soft underbelly of the American economy.” The toddler looked at her for a second and then burst into tears.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41384 "2019-06-26T00:36:19Z")

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[Chaos erupts in Pennsylvania Republican Party after racy texts scandal](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/25/val-digiorgio-pennsylvania-republicans-1382249)

The party chairman resigns, and a potentially brutal battle could begin to replace him in a state critical to Donald Trump’s reelection.

> [@Politico](#):
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> The Philadelphia Inquirer first reported Tuesday that DiGiorgio exchanged sexually charged text messages with a Philadelphia city council candidate and sent her a picture of genitals. He said it was council hopeful Irina Goldstein’s “duty to the party” to send photos to him and promised her to “get you to [the] White House at some point,” according to the messages reviewed by the newspaper.

‘Duty to the party’. Of course.

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