# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2080
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41585 "2019-07-23T04:21:50Z")
I know a guy who’s so hooked that if he tells you he heard something on Fox News and you ask him if he fact checked it, he’ll show you the Fox News website which says the same thing, thereby “proving it.” ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41586 "2019-07-23T04:26:05Z")
Very practical question. Hm, is there a way to enter a phrase into the interwebs and have it cross-referenced against a person’s documented, actual statements? Not, “Some guy on the internet made up some stuff”, but their verifiable quotes? That’s kind of reverse-engineering it though. If I saw that something that enflamed me to the point of murder, I might want to verify that there were some kind of cite for it somewhere. The kids like videos these days, lots of people say so. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41587 "2019-07-23T04:31:20Z")
I went to Berean Baptist Church as a kid. I have tried, several times, to complete failure, to encourage right wingers to be like the Bereans, who were praised in the bible for not simply believing what they were taught, but going home to read their scriptures to see if it was true. Using that as an example/model to fact check to see if what they were being told by their chosen media was actually true. To a one, they simply blasted me for not believing them and told me that I didn’t have to read their FB post/talk to them/ATTACK THEM if I didn’t agree with what they claimed. So pardon me if I don’t bother attempting to convince Conservatives to do this anymore. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41588 "2019-07-23T04:37:17Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I think that if Trump has taught us anything, it’s that “old fashioned” Reagan conservatism: small government, low taxes, local control… really has no appeal for the American people any more. You can’t win on it, the leader of the Republican party doesn’t give a shit about Reagan conservatism, 60-odd million people didn’t vote for Reagan’s stated view of America in 2016, and it’s sure as shit obvious the GOP isn’t going to run on being the party of “small government and lower taxes” in 2020. > > So, yeah, Reagan-era conservatism is spent as a political force which can move elections. Sure, there’s millions of them out there who pine for the good ol’ days of… 2005? 1991? 1984?.. but they’re not the ones driving the cart, and they never will as long as they allow Trump and his inevitable successors continue to take control of their party. To my point: > **[Trump announces support for two-year bipartisan budget deal that boosts...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-announces-support-for-two-year-bipartisan-budget-deal-that-boosts-spending-suspends-debt-limit/2019/07/22/94cf2172-acb6-11e9-8e77-03b30bc29f64_story.html)** > > The agreement still must be passed through Congress. "The White House and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) reached a tentative two-year budget deal Monday that would raise spending limits by $320billion and suspend the federal debt ceiling until after the 2020 presidential election. The agreement, which still must be passed by Congress, probably would prevent a debt-ceiling crisis later this year but also would continue Washington’s borrowing binge for at least two years." ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41589 "2019-07-23T05:06:12Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > To my point: > > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-announces-support-for-two-year-bipartisan-budget-deal-that-boosts-spending-suspends-debt-limit/2019/07/22/94cf2172-acb6-11e9-8e77-03b30bc29f64\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-announces-support-for-two-year-bipartisan-budget-deal-that-boosts-spending-suspends-debt-limit/2019/07/22/94cf2172-acb6-11e9-8e77-03b30bc29f64_story.html) > > "The White House and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) reached a tentative two-year budget deal Monday that would raise spending limits by $320billion and suspend the federal debt ceiling until after the 2020 presidential election. > > The agreement, which still must be passed by Congress, probably would prevent a debt-ceiling crisis later this year but also would continue Washington’s borrowing binge for at least two years." I wonder if Rand Paul will vote against it. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41590 "2019-07-23T13:30:05Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I wonder if Rand Paul will vote against it. Only if there are enough Democrats voting for it that its passage is assured without his vote. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41591 "2019-07-23T19:56:25Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > I went to Berean Baptist Church as a kid. I have tried, several times, to complete failure, to encourage right wingers to be like the Bereans, who were praised in the bible for not simply believing what they were taught, but going home to read their scriptures to see if it was true. Using that as an example/model to fact check to see if what they were being told by their chosen media was actually true. > > To a one, they simply blasted me for not believing them and told me that I didn’t have to read their FB post/talk to them/ATTACK THEM if I didn’t agree with what they claimed. > > So pardon me if I don’t bother attempting to convince Conservatives to do this anymore. > > ☹ Please DO continue to encourage Conservatives to do it. Reactionaries, yeah you might as well save your breath. Ummm, do you actually KNOW any Conservatives? ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41592 "2019-07-23T20:49:43Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > I went to Berean Baptist Church as a kid. I have tried, several times, to complete failure, to encourage right wingers to be like the Bereans, who were praised in the bible for not simply believing what they were taught, but going home to read their scriptures to see if it was true. Using that as an example/model to fact check to see if what they were being told by their chosen media was actually true. > > To a one, they simply blasted me for not believing them and told me that I didn’t have to read their FB post/talk to them/ATTACK THEM if I didn’t agree with what they claimed. > > So pardon me if I don’t bother attempting to convince Conservatives to do this anymore. > > ☹ Yeah, I struggle to view them as reachable at all. I have certainly been attacked by them- including physically assaulted by them. Evangelicals are way different than Bereans I guess. Problem is, the Forces of Stupid threaten us in many ways. Climate change is the big one. Murderous white nationalism could cause a lot of trouble, too. And all the other problems caused by oropaganda-induced hysteria. I bounce back and forth between writing them off and feeling like we need to keep reminding them of reality. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41593 "2019-07-23T20:53:50Z")
> **[Trump says he can name 20 more Dems who are like the 'squad'](https://apnews.com/united-states-government-2b11fcb0cc5647f59ed966405d696951)** > > President Donald Trump says he can name at least 20 Democrats who, in his opinion, are worse than the "squad" of four Democratic female lawmakers he's been feuding with over their sharp critiques of his administration. > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump said Tuesday he can name at least 20 Democrats who, in his opinion, are worse than the “squad” of four Democratic female lawmakers he’s been feuding with over their sharp critiques of his administration. He promised to name those Democrats “at some point.” :rolleyes: We’ve done this before. It sucked. But the guy with the list lost, so there’s that. ETA: Crap; I thought I was starting a new thread. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41594 "2019-07-23T22:07:00Z")
[Moderating] I deleted a post from **Snowboarder Bo** that was intended to be a new thread, and moved one reply to that post to that new thread. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41595 "2019-07-23T22:16:04Z")
Thanks, **Miller**! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41596 "2019-07-24T17:41:48Z")
During the Mueller hearing, Devin Nunes just said that the only collusion with Russia came from Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41597 "2019-07-24T17:50:06Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Please DO continue to encourage Conservatives to do it. Reactionaries, yeah you might as well save your breath. > > Ummm, do you actually KNOW any Conservatives? Yes. I’ve lost a couple of friends, broken contact with the wife of a former foster brother over this crap, but yes, I still have Conservative friends. They’re the ones who have (upon much reminding) figured out that their politics and mine are quite different and no longer spout racist bullshit in my presence. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41598 "2019-07-24T18:50:32Z")
Uhhh, sorry if I was unclear, but when I asked if you know any Conservatives, I meant that Reactionaries don’t count as Conservatives. Especially the radical ones. I mean, come ON. “Radical Conservative” is just as much meaningless gibberish as “Extreme Centrist.” ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41599 "2019-07-24T19:10:11Z")
He wants to know if you know any true conservatives. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41600 "2019-07-24T19:13:08Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > He wants to know if you know any true conservatives. Is that like a True Scotsman? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41601 "2019-07-24T19:28:43Z")
**adaher** posted something today. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41602 "2019-07-24T19:31:58Z")
Is that a (Stupid Republican) Idea or a Stupid Idea had by a Republican? Okay, both. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41603 "2019-07-24T19:49:01Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > **adaher** posted something today. Should I have read that in Eddie Vedder’s voice? Because that’s what I did. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/41604 "2019-07-24T19:50:15Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Is that a (Stupid Republican) Idea or a Stupid Idea had by a Republican? > > Okay, both. He’s posting in the Omar pit thread, so, yes: Both. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=2079) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=2081)