# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42149 "2019-09-18T12:36:28Z")

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Missed edit window.

Just have to add another headline from the Mark Taylor site:  
**[MN public school board chairwoman: Evolution is outdated because ‘it was discovered in the 1800s’](https://deadstate.org/mn-public-school-board-chairwoman-evolution-was-discovered-in-the-1800s-so-why-still-teach-it/)**

😃

You **can’t** make this shit up.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42150 "2019-09-18T13:03:49Z")

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Oh, and a PA Republican State Senator is a pedo:

> **[State Senator Arrested on Child Pornography Charges](https://www.wnep.com/article/news/local/bradford-county/state-senator-arrested-on-child-pornography-charges/523-ea1e1429-7540-4d5e-a669-5953e09428fe)**
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> HARRISBURG, Pa. — Pennsylvania State Sen. Michael Folmer is facing charges of possession of child pornography, Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro ...

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42151 "2019-09-18T14:01:54Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Missed edit window.
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> Just have to add another headline from the Mark Taylor site:  
> **[MN public school board chairwoman: Evolution is outdated because ‘it was discovered in the 1800s’](https://deadstate.org/mn-public-school-board-chairwoman-evolution-was-discovered-in-the-1800s-so-why-still-teach-it/)**
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> 😃
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> You **can’t** make this shit up.

> [@MN idiot](#):
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> You know, Darwin’s theory was done in the mid-1800s and it’s never been proven, so I’m wondering why we’re still teaching it.

Lady, if that’s the metric you’re going by I have some bad news about the Bible…

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42152 "2019-09-18T14:27:52Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Lady, if that’s the metric you’re going by I have some bad news about the Bible…

Not to mention, about gravity. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42153 "2019-09-18T20:21:23Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Not to mention, about gravity. :rolleyes:

“We control matter because we control the mind. Reality is inside the skull. You will learn by degrees, Winston. There is nothing that we could not do. Invisibility, levitation — anything. I could float off this floor like a soap bubble if I wish to. I do not wish to, because the Party does not wish it. You must get rid of those nineteenth-century ideas about the laws of Nature. We make the laws of Nature.”

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42154 "2019-09-18T21:06:44Z")

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Pompeo calls drone attack on Saudi Arabia an [“Act of War”](https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/politics/donald-trump-iran-sanctions-treasury/index.html)

I’m sure we can believe any evidence presented by Saudi Arabian officials. If you like, they can even show you the evidence. It’s in one of their embassies, in the cupboard labelled “bone saw”. Come alone.

And do you know what? I think that Saudi Arabian nationalists financing, supporting and training 15 terrorists to destroy major buildings in New York could also be considered an “act of war”. Too bad we forgot so quickly (within hours, apparently) which country was behind this heinous act.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42155 "2019-09-18T21:09:33Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> Oh, and a PA Republican State Senator is a pedo:
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> [https://wnep.com/2019/09/17/state-senator-arrested-on-child-pornography-charges/](https://wnep.com/2019/09/17/state-senator-arrested-on-child-pornography-charges/)

When I saw the headline in the news, I did not have to click the link to know that the pedo was a Republican.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42156 "2019-09-18T23:27:25Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Pompeo calls drone attack on Saudi Arabia an [“Act of War”](https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/politics/donald-trump-iran-sanctions-treasury/index.html)
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> I’m sure we can believe any evidence presented by Saudi Arabian officials. If you like, they can even show you the evidence. It’s in one of their embassies, in the cupboard labelled “bone saw”. Come alone.
> 
> And do you know what? I think that Saudi Arabian nationalists financing, supporting and training 15 terrorists to destroy major buildings in New York could also be considered an “act of war”. Too bad we forgot so quickly (within hours, apparently) which country was behind this heinous act.

I would think only Saudi Arabia could determine if an attack on Saudi Arabia was “an act of war”. What’s Pompeo doing sticking his nose in it?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42157 "2019-09-19T00:54:33Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> And do you know what? I think that Saudi Arabian nationalists financing, supporting and training 15 terrorists to destroy major buildings in New York could also be considered an “act of war”. Too bad we forgot so quickly (within hours, apparently) which country was behind this heinous act.

I wouldn’t say the country, as in the government, was behind that heinous act. They had already stripped Bin Laden of his citizenship back in 1994.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42158 "2019-09-19T01:24:08Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> I would think only Saudi Arabia could determine if an attack on Saudi Arabia was “an act of war”. What’s Pompeo doing sticking his nose in it?

Hoping SA will agree with him so Individual 1 can get his war.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42159 "2019-09-19T01:41:46Z")

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Hmmm, Iran v. Saudi Arabia…  
Can I root for them both to lose?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42160 "2019-09-19T02:23:45Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Michele Malkin decides to use the day of Cokie Roberts’s death to criticize her.  
> [Michelle Malkin Accuses Cokie Roberts of 'Fake News' Hours After Her Death](https://www.newsweek.com/michelle-malkin-accuses-cokie-roberts-fake-news-hours-after-her-death-1459851)

> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Also: [Fox News reporter Michelle Malkin attacks dead reporter for “fake news” literally hours after her death](https://www.thedailybeast.com/michelle-malkin-smears-cokie-roberts-on-the-day-of-her-death-one-of-the-first-guilty-culprits-of-fake-news). Fucking scumbag.

I recall hearing Keith Olberman referring to Malkin as a “bag of meat with lipstick”. For which, of course, he received a fair dose of flak. It was, indeed, an impolitic thing to say, much in the same vein as “hey, you have a big green ball of snot hanging from the tip of your nose”.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42161 "2019-09-19T09:51:33Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> I recall hearing Keith Olberman referring to Malkin as a “bag of meat with lipstick”.

The various otherwise interchangeable leggy blondes on Faux Noise could be lined up in a “stages of meth abuse” timeline.

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**Author:** ![Running\_with\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Running\_with\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Running_with_Scissors)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42162 "2019-09-19T11:54:24Z")

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Apparently not knowing the meaning of the word “irony”,

> [@](#):
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> U.S. seeks to penalize San Francisco: President Trump said the city would be issued a [notice of environmental violation](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/us/politics/trump-san-francisco-homeless.html?te=1&nl=morning-briefing&emc=edit_NN_p_20190919&section=whatElse?campaign_id=9&instance_id=12488&segment_id=17145&user_id=e5269a51ac8473895bfdd2274873edcf&regi_id=2330713ion=whatElse) because of its homelessness problem, citing used needles that were ending up in the ocean.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42163 "2019-09-19T18:32:21Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Hmmm, Iran v. Saudi Arabia…  
> Can I root for them both to lose?

There are no winners. War decides not who is right but who is left. But the reality is that if we treated Iran decently, in a neutral sort of way, the dissident faction would almost certainly grow stronger, to the point that the theocracy would wither on the vine and they would become the progressive beacon of the ME. Yelling at them is only making the ugly side uglier.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42164 "2019-09-19T18:45:34Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> There are no winners. War decides not who is right but who is left. But the reality is that if we treated Iran decently, in a neutral sort of way, the dissident faction would almost certainly grow stronger, to the point that the theocracy would wither on the vine and they would become the progressive beacon of the ME. Yelling at them is only making the ugly side uglier.

And I think that’s rather the point. The US NEEDS an enemy to rail against.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42165 "2019-09-19T18:53:29Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> And I think that’s rather the point. The US NEEDS an enemy to rail against.

We’ve got one in the White House.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42166 "2019-09-19T19:14:05Z")

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[Secretary of State Pompeo comments](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/09/19/mike-pompeos-helpful-media-advice-covering-frequently-lying/) on (specifically) the Houthi rebels claiming responsibility for the Saudi refinery attack and (generally) on how reporters ought to contextualize public assertions:

> [@](#):
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> **Question:** If it didn’t come from there, did it come from Iran, or did it come from southern Iraq? Where is the view that it would come from there?
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> **Pompeo:** We’ve seen no evidence that it – by the way, that makes the Houthis’ claims false, right. Just so we’re tracking back to your original question, that means these people lie. And so whatever you report about them, you say, “the Houthis said,” _you should say, “the well-known, frequently lying Houthis have said the following.”_ This is important, because _you ought not report them as if these are truth-tellers_, as if these are people who aren’t completely under the boot of the Iranians, and who would not at the direction of the Iranians lay claim to attacks which they did not engage in, which clearly was the case here. So there you go.\* Whenever you say “Houthis,” you should begin with “the well-known, frequently-known-to-lie Houthis.”\* And then you can write whatever it is they say. And you would have — that would be good reporting.
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> _(Laughter.)_

(emphasis added)

Excellent advice, with other obvious applications…

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42167 "2019-09-19T19:21:46Z")

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I nominate **Steve** ’s entry for SRIOT year so far. Definitely stupid advice to give if it will be followed.

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**Author:** ![Running\_with\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Running\_with\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Running_with_Scissors)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/42168 "2019-09-19T20:06:08Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> But the reality is that if we treated Iran decently, in a neutral sort of way, the dissident faction would almost certainly grow stronger, to the point that the theocracy would wither on the vine and they would become the progressive beacon of the ME. Yelling at them is only making the ugly side uglier.

The reality is that the US really F’ed up Iran starting in the 1950s, and up to and until the conclusion of the hostage situation in '79-'80, they had major beefs with us, and they apparently have a long memory. The Obama administration’s treaty with them was a step in the right direction, but **he who shall not be named** decided that since Obama did it, it must be destroyed or undone.

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