# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5281 "2012-04-27T17:01:04Z")

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Even assuming that were true, Bryant should make this thread for hopelessly misusing “hypocrisy”.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5282 "2012-04-27T17:07:09Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Even assuming that were true, Bryant should make this thread for hopelessly misusing “hypocrisy”.

Nah, I think he’s referring to the stance of the bill’s opponents, mentioned further down in the article I linked to, that shutting down abortion clinics “endangers women’s health” (which, of course, it does, because many abortions are medically necessary to avoid life- or health-threatening complications of pregnancy).

I think Bryant thinks that his point is something along the lines of “How can you demon libruls act all upset about the lack of access to abortions endangering women, when you’re perfectly fine with the fact that abortion itself KILLS CHILDREN?!!??? Huh? Huh? Hypocrites!! Ha-ha, I’ve run rings around you logically!”

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5283 "2012-04-27T17:16:53Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Nah, I think he’s referring to the stance of the bill’s opponents, mentioned further down in the article I linked to, that shutting down abortion clinics “endangers women’s health” (which, of course, it does, because many abortions are medically necessary to avoid life- or health-threatening complications of pregnancy).
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> I think Bryant thinks that his point is something along the lines of “How can you demon libruls act all upset about the lack of access to abortions endangering women, when you’re perfectly fine with the fact that abortion itself KILLS CHILDREN?!!??? Huh? Huh? Hypocrites!! Ha-ha, I’ve run rings around you logically!”

Oh, okay. I can buy that.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5284 "2012-04-27T19:35:21Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> A [report on other parts of Bryant’s remarks](http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/mississippi-gov-says-democrats-one-mission-in-life-is-to-abort-children/) leaves no doubt.
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> > “The hypocrisy of the left that now tried to kill this bill, that says that I should have never signed it, the true hypocrisy is that their one mission in life is to abort children, is to kill children in the womb,” Bryant told conservative radio host Tony Perkins on Tuesday.
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> Anyway, the headline as it stands was accurate.

I agree this second quote makes the headline valid. But the headline should be validated by the article’s own contents and, though I seem to be in a minority, I still see that as a leap.

(In any event I agree Bryant’s claim was stupid and nauseating.)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5285 "2012-04-27T20:03:54Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> A [report on other parts of Bryant’s remarks](http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/mississippi-gov-says-democrats-one-mission-in-life-is-to-abort-children/) leaves no doubt.
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> > Days after he signed a law that would effectively shut down his state’s only remaining abortion-performing clinic, Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant accused Democrats of having one mission in life: “to abort children.”

His basic error is in either not understanding the other view, or in deliberately mischaracterizing it. Essentially it boils down to - he is either stupid or lying.

Those who I know who are pro-choice are very clear:

- Abortion should be safe, accessible, and _rare_. Unwanted pregnancies should be reduced so that abortions are used only in extreme cases.

- Abortion should not be used as birth control; contraception should be made more available. Education about how babies are made and how contraception is used should be commonplace.

How does Bryant get from here to "Democrats (have) one mission in life: “to abort children.”??? Stupidity or lying.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5286 "2012-04-27T21:53:01Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I agree this second quote makes the headline valid. But the headline should be validated by the article’s own contents and, though I seem to be in a minority, I still see that as a leap.
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> (In any event I agree Bryant’s claim was stupid and nauseating.)

The headline isn’t _in_validated by the article’s own content, which is what matters. The fact that you can’t tell whether he said “left” or “abortion people” from the article is sloppy reporting, not misleading reporting.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2012, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5287 "2012-04-28T01:14:45Z")

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Or maybe they time travelled from 1988 to 2012 this week.  
[http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/04/romney-campaign-brackets-biden-foreign-policy-speech-by-warning-of-soviet-threat.php?ref=fpnewsfeed](http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/04/romney-campaign-brackets-biden-foreign-policy-speech-by-warning-of-soviet-threat.php?ref=fpnewsfeed)

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> Romney and his surrogates have revealed an ongoing Cold War fixation. Former Reagan Navy Secretary John Lehman and former Bush administration Ambassador Pierre Prosper, on Thursday derailed Romney messaging in a conference call with reporters by raising the specter of the “Soviet Union” and slamming Obama for not protecting Czechoslovakia — a country that was peacefully dissolved in 1993 and now exists as the Czech Republic and Slovakia.
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> Obama is “withdrawing from leading the free world in maintaining stability around the world,” Lehman said. “What Obama calls ‘leading from behind.’”

Maybe those guys had been briefed by Sarah Palin.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5288 "2012-04-28T01:42:18Z")

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Romney can see Czechoslovakia from his house.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5289 "2012-04-28T02:33:24Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Romney can see Czechoslovakia from his house.

Well, from _one_ of his houses.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2012, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5290 "2012-04-28T05:57:50Z")

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And here I thought it would be really hard to top proudly not knowing the name of the President of Ubeki-beki-beki-stan-stan ; but being unaware that the country’s been split into Ubeki-beki-beki and Stan-stan for 20 years takes it up a notch.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2012, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5291 "2012-04-28T06:45:35Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Well, from _one_ of his houses.

Long as he can’t see the Rose Garden from his house, I’m cool with that.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5292 "2012-04-29T03:49:33Z")

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Praying the gay away not working for you?

According to one DJ at a Clear Channel-owned station in Cleveland, you might try [raping the gay away](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/04/28/rape-away-the-gay/) instead.

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> In response to an email from a father who suspected his daughter was gay after discovering her kissing another girl, DJ Dominic Deiter declared on the air that “You should get one of your friends to screw your daughter straight.”

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5293 "2012-04-29T03:59:48Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Praying the gay away not working for you?
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> According to one DJ at a Clear Channel-owned station in Cleveland, you might try [raping the gay away](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/04/28/rape-away-the-gay/) instead.

It’s every male homophobe’s fondest conviction that the only thing a lesbian really needs is that particular male homophobe’s penis.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5294 "2012-04-29T15:16:39Z")

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Mitt “Regular Guy” Romney suggests that if you can’t find a job, [borrow money from your parents](http://thinkprogress.org/special/2012/04/27/473096/romney-borrow-money-parents/) to start a company:

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> This kind of devisiveness, this attack of success, is very different than what we’ve seen in our country’s history. We’ve always encouraged young people: Take a shot, go for it, take a risk, get the education, borrow money if you have to from your parents, start a business.

Apparently, it worked for his good friend Jimmy John.

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**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5295 "2012-04-29T17:23:59Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> It’s every male homophobe’s fondest conviction that the only thing a lesbian really needs is that particular male homophobe’s penis.

Reminds me of a joke I once heard at an open mike night. A female comedian told about a conversation she had with a stranger about her being gay (paraphrasing):

He: How do you know you’re not straight? Maybe you just have never been fucked with a decent cock.  
She: How do **you** know you’re not gay? Maybe you just have never been fucked with a decent cock.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5296 "2012-04-29T18:36:24Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Praying the gay away not working for you?
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> According to one DJ at a Clear Channel-owned station in Cleveland, you might try [raping the gay away](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/04/28/rape-away-the-gay/) instead.

To be fair, although I have nothing but contempt for this bubble-headed shock jock’s remark, it is not completely clear to me that it counts as a _Republican_ stupid idea per se.

The radio show on which the remark was aired, something called [“Rover’s Morning Glory”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover's_Morning_Glory), is a so-called “hot-talk/comedy” show that apparently achieved fame as a regional replacement for the Howard Stern show, not exactly a bastion of Republicanism.

I know nothing about the general political viewpoint of either the show or the announcer Dom “Dumbass” Dieter in particular, and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if it turned out that they **were** in fact Republicans. But AFAICT idiot radio shock jocks don’t need to be Republican in order to have the kind of mentality that finds the idea of a middle-aged man’s friend raping his teen daughter in order to “screw her straight” to be a hilarious joke.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5297 "2012-04-29T18:55:50Z")

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Yeah, but its evil! Close enough.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5298 "2012-04-29T19:07:17Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> Or maybe they time travelled from 1988 to 2012 this week.  
> [http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/04/romney-campaign-brackets-biden-foreign-policy-speech-by-warning-of-soviet-threat.php?ref=fpnewsfeed](http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/04/romney-campaign-brackets-biden-foreign-policy-speech-by-warning-of-soviet-threat.php?ref=fpnewsfeed)
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> Maybe those guys had been briefed by Sarah Palin.

In America, time goes backward. In Soviet Russia, time goes backward!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5299 "2012-04-29T20:58:10Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> To be fair, although I have nothing but contempt for this bubble-headed shock jock’s remark, it is not completely clear to me that it counts as a _Republican_ stupid idea per se.

He’s registered as an independent, so I don’t think it qualifies at all.

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**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5300 "2012-04-30T07:07:46Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> He’s registered as an independent, so I don’t think it qualifies at all.

“Stupid Independent idea of the day”?

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