# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5921 "2012-07-10T18:33:53Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Here it is, in The Huffington Post:
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> [Krayton Kerns, Republican Montana Legislator, Says Bison Move Could Lead To Higher Gas Prices | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/02/krayton-kerns-montana-bison_n_1643167.html)
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> Boy, imagine how embarassed he’s gpoing to be when he finds out that FElix Salten, a German, wrote “Bambi”, not the folks at Disney. And that it was trranslated into English by ---- Whittaker Chambers! The Communist Party Member and Soviet Spy who ratted out Alger Hiss.

It all makes sense now.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5922 "2012-07-10T18:34:57Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> …How, exactly, is livestock moving to a different park going to cause gas to jump to $25 a gallon? What are the next three steps involved in crushing the republic (I hope they’re a little more sexy than shuffling cattle around)? …

[I found the answer!](http://www.indecisionforever.com/blog/2012/07/04/meet-krayton-kerns-americas-greatest-defender-of-liberty-and-hater-of-bambi)

1. Move bison to Yellowstone Park, where there are huge oil reserves.
2. Declare ground off-limits for drilling, because it is the habitat of bison.  
(I am inferring the next two)
3. Then you get the sugar.
4. Then you get the women.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5923 "2012-07-10T18:36:15Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> …Boy, imagine how embarassed he’s gpoing to be when he finds out that FElix Salten, a German, wrote “Bambi”, not the folks at Disney. And that it was trranslated into English by ---- Whittaker Chambers! The Communist Party Member and Soviet Spy who ratted out Alger Hiss.

Of course! And Disney put out _Fantasia_ thirty years before anyone was taking any LSD to watch it! Man, these guys plan _ahead_!

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5924 "2012-07-10T18:42:41Z")

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Ok, to explain where the connections come from, remember that this is through the HuffPost filter. Not that he’s a rational being, mind you, just that if you want to understand his point it helps to go to the [source](http://www.kraytonkerns.org/postings/the_patriot_jump.html).

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> Whether Walt Disney was a cause or an effect is uncertain, but his personification of animals allowed activists to gift Bambi rights equal to those endowed us by our Creator.

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> activists quietly acquired conservation easements and commandeered Montana water rights through the Clean Water Act. The noose of federal control quietly tightened around massive tracts of Montana’s Missouri Breaks

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> bison will overpopulate and escape their temporary home and within a decade, there will be thousands of bison ravaging The Breaks. Once Montanans discover the problem, it will be too late—just as it was with the introduction of the invasive species of the gray wolf.

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> The world’s economy will grind to a halt due to instability in the Middle East driving the price of gasoline over $25 per gallon. In desperation, America will attempt to develop the massive Bakken oil reserves of Montana and North Dakota only to learn a future leftist president has issued a moratorium on all oil exploration to protect the habitat of our national mammal, the noble, YNP-origin, American Bison

So, he seems to be saying that we’ve started to prefer cute animals over jobs and people’s needs. This is fairly standard RW rhetoric, and though I don’t agree, it’s not quite as insane as HuffPo characterized it. By pushing the environmental agenda, Montana has lost rights/sovereignty to the Federal government and to the radical few. Since these bison are now protected on a reservation (which seems to have gone against state law, though Federal law’s pre-eminence is civics 101), they will be free to breed breed breed. Eventually, they’ll overpopulate their area and spread to other parts of Montana. Becauswe they’re cute and idolized (there is a lot of christian bullshit in his blog I didn’t copy/paste), as they spill into Montana state territory (or other Federal lands, I guess), they’ll carry a protected status.

So… when the Mideast goes tits up and gas jumps to $25 per gallon (yeah, that’s a stretch but far less batshit than other RW claims), we’ll want to drill domestically. \*However, \* even though there are rich reserves (are there?) in his back yard, no one will be able to access them because the cute and idolized bison will have to be protected and drilling won’t be allowed.

He doesn’t think this is his personal wild idea of connect-the-dots, he believes it’s a super-secret government plan that he was able to identify and describe.

Fucktard.  
Anyone thing that’s close? Anone think a good blog would be “interpreting what the batshit really means”? Not somethign that sets up strawmen (what he’s _actually_ saying is …), but one that honestly tries to rephrase the hyperbolic rhetoric in terms that are at least arguable from a rational perspective.

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5925 "2012-07-10T18:56:34Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Of course! And Disney put out _Fantasia_ thirty years before anyone was taking any LSD to watch it! Man, these guys plan _ahead_!

That’s nothing. Most people think that Socrates drank hemlock because he was sentenced to death. Baloney. He drank it as part of a plan to fix the 1919 World Series.

Of course, that took more than 4 steps.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5926 "2012-07-10T20:12:09Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> Ok, to explain where the connections come from, remember that this is through the HuffPost filter. Not that he’s a rational being, mind you, just that if you want to understand his point it helps to go to the [source](http://www.kraytonkerns.org/postings/the_patriot_jump.html).
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> So, he seems to be saying that we’ve started to prefer cute animals over jobs and people’s needs. This is fairly standard RW rhetoric, and though I don’t agree, it’s not quite as insane as HuffPo characterized it. By pushing the environmental agenda, Montana has lost rights/sovereignty to the Federal government and to the radical few. Since these bison are now protected on a reservation (which seems to have gone against state law, though Federal law’s pre-eminence is civics 101), they will be free to breed breed breed. Eventually, they’ll overpopulate their area and spread to other parts of Montana. Becauswe they’re cute and idolized (there is a lot of christian bullshit in his blog I didn’t copy/paste), as they spill into Montana state territory (or other Federal lands, I guess), they’ll carry a protected status.
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> So… when the Mideast goes tits up and gas jumps to $25 per gallon (yeah, that’s a stretch but far less batshit than other RW claims), we’ll want to drill domestically. \*However, \* even though there are rich reserves (are there?) in his back yard, no one will be able to access them because the cute and idolized bison will have to be protected and drilling won’t be allowed.
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> He doesn’t think this is his personal wild idea of connect-the-dots, he believes it’s a super-secret government plan that he was able to identify and describe.
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> Fucktard.  
> Anyone thing that’s close? Anone think a good blog would be “interpreting what the batshit really means”? Not somethign that sets up strawmen (what he’s _actually_ saying is …), but one that honestly tries to rephrase the hyperbolic rhetoric in terms that are at least arguable from a rational perspective.

So your saying this man thinks bison are cute? He is clearly insane.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5927 "2012-07-10T20:22:07Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Here it is, in The Huffington Post:
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> [Krayton Kerns, Republican Montana Legislator, Says Bison Move Could Lead To Higher Gas Prices | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/02/krayton-kerns-montana-bison_n_1643167.html)
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> Boy, imagine how embarassed he’s gpoing to be when he finds out that FElix Salten, a German, wrote “Bambi”, not the folks at Disney. And that it was trranslated into English by ---- Whittaker Chambers! The Communist Party Member and Soviet Spy who ratted out Alger Hiss.

Arrrrgh - I forgot the link. Thanks

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5928 "2012-07-10T23:11:53Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Well, you see, its Montana, and, well, they are a mite strange out there.

And Laurel — which, last time I was through, appeared to be one humungous oil refinery cloaked in a thin veneer of civilization — is stranger still.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5929 "2012-07-11T18:01:17Z")

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WTF, I had no idea this is still going on. House Republicans today are voting for the [THIRTY FUCKING THIRD](http://news.yahoo.com/house-obamacare-repeal-thirty-third-times-charm-151314027--abc-news-politics.html) time to repeal Obamacare?! I had no idea there were 1 effort to repeal, let alone **33!** What the fuck do they think they’re getting paid for, pointless bullshit? Wait, this is the GOP, so yeah, I guess so. To them, taking a pointless stance to blow your equally insane fringe is just as good as passing actual laws

I shudder to think what kind of bullshit they will pull once they get back into power. And for these 33 wasted times, I will never ever consider Democrats to be “playing politics” ever again. There’s simply no comparison. I cannot imagine that they would go through a quarter of the effort to perpetuate a charade like this. I remember one or two votes by the Dems back when Bush was in charge to repeal stuff, but you get your symbolic vote and then you move on like adults

33 times is just the legislative equivalent of a pissing and shitting tantrum thrown on the floor of the store until you get what you want. From now on, whenever any GOP accuses a Dem of playing politics, even if the Dem actually is doing it, I’m just going to point to the 33 fucking repeal attempts and tell them to fuck off

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5930 "2012-07-11T18:12:08Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> WTF, I had no idea this is still going on. House Republicans today are voting for the [THIRTY FUCKING THIRD](http://news.yahoo.com/house-obamacare-repeal-thirty-third-times-charm-151314027--abc-news-politics.html) time to repeal Obamacare?! I had no idea there were 1 effort to repeal, let alone **33!** What the fuck do they think they’re getting paid for, pointless bullshit? Wait, this is the GOP, so yeah, I guess so. To them, taking a pointless stance to blow your equally insane fringe is just as good as passing actual laws
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> I shudder to think what kind of bullshit they will pull once they get back into power. And for these 33 wasted times, I will never ever consider Democrats to be “playing politics” ever again. There’s simply no comparison. I cannot imagine that they would go through a quarter of the effort to perpetuate a charade like this. I remember one or two votes by the Dems back when Bush was in charge to repeal stuff, but you get your symbolic vote and then you move on like adults
> 
> 33 times is just the legislative equivalent of a pissing and shitting tantrum thrown on the floor of the store until you get what you want. From now on, whenever any GOP accuses a Dem of playing politics, even if the Dem actually is doing it, I’m just going to point to the 33 fucking repeal attempts and tell them to fuck off

Sorry this is Stupid Republican Idea of the **Day** , not Stupid Republican Idea of the **Year**

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5931 "2012-07-11T18:24:10Z")

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Speaking of which, when do the nominations for Stupid Republican Idea of the Year come out?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5932 "2012-07-11T18:27:58Z")

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Thats not as interesting. For 2003, it was “Invade Iraq!”. Hands down, no contest. The next year, it was “Stay in Iraq!” Game over, man, game over. Closer, though, what with “The draft dodging frat boy is a hero, the wounded vet is a wussie!”

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5933 "2012-07-11T18:29:50Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I’ve read every word in **BigAppleBucky** ’s post; I know they are English words; I can make no sense out any of them.
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> Is Walt Disney’s creation of “Bambi” to blame for bison in general, or for them having to be moved? How, exactly, is livestock moving to a different park going to cause gas to jump to $25 a gallon? What are the next three steps involved in crushing the republic (I hope they’re a little more sexy than shuffling cattle around)? And finally, I don’t buy that Karl Marx gave a shit about bison in the first place.  
> Can someone translate what the hell’s going on here?

For you, this was the day that gas went to $25.00/gallon. For Bison, it was Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5934 "2012-07-11T18:46:42Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> Speaking of which, when do the nominations for Stupid Republican Idea of the Year come out?

January 1 of every year. Usually we have at least a dozen candidates within 24 hours so no need to wait.

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**Author:** ![Sinaptics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Sinaptics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaptics)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5935 "2012-07-11T18:55:53Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> I cannot imagine that they would go through a quarter of the effort to perpetuate a charade like this.

I was reading an article this morning regarding R-Congresscritters (can’t remember which ones, Upton and Stern, I think) that have been holding the Solyndra hearings. They are not pushing a bill that will ban any clean energy subsidies and stating, “Our ‘No More Solyndras Act’ will ensure taxpayers are no longer vulnerable to the Obama administration’s game of crony capitalism.”

I was thinking to myself, isn’t it painful doing this hearing stuff day after day when you know it’s all bullshit? They KNOW this was started by Bush, yet they spend day after day trying to pin it to Obama. You have to be one cynical bastard to do that job every day.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5936 "2012-07-11T19:50:31Z")

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Today, Mitt Romney spoke at the NAACP. He told them he’d repeal Obamacare and pass voter ID laws.

[It went about as well as you’d expect.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dEByrz4lu24)

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5937 "2012-07-11T20:00:22Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Today, Mitt Romney spoke at the NAACP. He told them he’d repeal Obamacare and pass voter ID laws.
> 
> [It went about as well as you’d expect.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dEByrz4lu24)

Well, at least you can’t accuse him of pandering for votes.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5938 "2012-07-11T20:20:50Z")

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> [@campp](#):
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> 1. Bambi
> 2. Godless Americans
> 3. Bison as pawns
> 4. _Profit!_

Or the most awesome game of chess ever.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5939 "2012-07-11T20:44:39Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Well, at least you can’t accuse him of pandering for votes.

You’re right there, that’s the least.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/5940 "2012-07-11T20:50:37Z")

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No, it’s definitely pandering for votes. Just not black people votes.

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