# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 331
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6601 "2012-08-27T21:58:21Z")
Thanksgiving is going to be awkward at the Smith household this year. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6602 "2012-08-27T22:30:01Z")
So Tomorrow the Republicans have scheduled to speak one [Sher Valenzuela](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/24/1123698/-RNC-speaker-s-business-experience-blows-holes-in-party-s-We-built-it-theme), a businesswoman, who has a thriving 40 employee business in Delaware called First State Manufacturing. The title of her talk? “We Built Meant” meant to offer a stunning rebuttal of Obama’s “You didn’t build that” quote. She has indeed been very successful, successful at using the government funds and resources at her disposal to make her comapny a true success: > [@](#): > > First State Manufacturing got its feet on the ground with an initial $20,000 loan from the Small Business Administration. > > • In 2001, it obtained another $96,500 from the SBA when the company “was ready to grow again.” > > • It got another $65,800 disaster loan to deal with business fall-out from the Sept. 11 attacks. > > • FSM’s 40 employees now work out of facility funded by a $1.8 million SBA 504 loan. > > • Since it began operations, FSM has received $15 million in federal contracts two-thirds of which were obtained non-competitively. In fiscal 2012 alone, the company has received more than half a million dollars in government contracts with the Air Force and defense contractors such as Lockheed Martin. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6603 "2012-08-27T22:30:10Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > [Tom Smith, GOP Senate Candidate: Pregnancy From Rape Similar To ‘Having A Baby Out Of Wedlock’](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/27/tom-smith-rape_n_1834234.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009) > > Yes, super similar. What isn’t clear to you? I mean, either way, the girl is ruined, right? Certainly no _decent_ man is going to want her – as a wife, or as a daughter. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6604 "2012-08-27T23:03:30Z")
I think the hilarious part was that he was drawing a similarity…from the perspective of the father. > [@](#): > > He added, “Put yourself in a father’s position. Yes, it is similar.” So he’s asking you to, what, put yourself in the position of the rapist? Saying that the unmarried father of a child is like a rapist, or that a rapist is just an unwitting father of a random child? I don’t even understand what he was trying to say. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6605 "2012-08-27T23:26:42Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > I think the hilarious part was that he was drawing a similarity…from the perspective of the father. No, he was talking about the perspective of _A_ father, implying his perspective as her father. Doesn’t change the fuckuppedness of his comment, but I don’t think he was talking about the rapist as the father. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6606 "2012-08-27T23:34:25Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > No, he was talking about the perspective of _A_ father, implying his perspective as her father. Doesn’t change the fuckuppedness of his comment, but I don’t think he was talking about the rapist as the father. Oh, okay. I see it now. I still don’t see those situations as being analogous though. Your daughter has a baby with her boyfriend, vs. your daughter gets pregnant by her rapist, and your response as a father is the same? Either child-out-of-wedlock is disproportionately bad in your mind, or you’re not quite grasping the concept of rape baby. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6607 "2012-08-27T23:40:47Z")
In this man’s view, both children are tainted with evil sin. Of course, many of that ilk believe ALL babies are tainted with sin. Perhaps, he is just imagining how embarrassing the whole thing would be to the father of the woman. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6608 "2012-08-28T05:04:55Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > So Tomorrow the Republicans have scheduled to speak one [Sher Valenzuela](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/24/1123698/-RNC-speaker-s-business-experience-blows-holes-in-party-s-We-built-it-theme), a businesswoman, who has a thriving 40 employee business in Delaware called First State Manufacturing. The title of her talk? “We Built Meant” meant to offer a stunning rebuttal of Obama’s “You didn’t build that” quote. “We Built Meant?” 😕 What is this, I don’t even… ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6609 "2012-08-28T08:41:40Z")
> [@Bouncer](#): > > woah Woah WOAH!!! > > …they make.. they make bacon incense? > > WHY HAVE YOU NOT TOLD ME OF THIS!!!?!?! > > Regards, > -Bouncer- > PS: Not that I’m addicted to b-b-bacon or a-a-anything. I’m not. Really. WHERE IS IT YOU WILL TELL ME RIGHT NOW!!! Would you settle for a [bacon candle](http://www.amazon.com/Sizzlin-Bacon-Scented-Candle/dp/B005XO7HTK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346142887&sr=8-1&keywords=bacon+incense)? BTW, I found a couple of places selling bacon incense, but have no idea how reputable any of them are: [http://upinsmokeincense.com/the\_munchies\_collection](http://upinsmokeincense.com/the_munchies_collection) [http://www.artfire.com/ext/shop/product\_view/DreamWeaverArts/4744321/Fresh\_Hand\_Dipped\_Bacon\_Incense\_Sticks\_40\_count/Candles/Incense/Stick](http://www.artfire.com/ext/shop/product_view/DreamWeaverArts/4744321/Fresh_Hand_Dipped_Bacon_Incense_Sticks_40_count/Candles/Incense/Stick) [http://fooberryincense.bigcartel.com/product/bacon-incense-its-blt-time-freshly-hand-dipped-by-me](http://fooberryincense.bigcartel.com/product/bacon-incense-its-blt-time-freshly-hand-dipped-by-me) ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6610 "2012-08-28T12:01:33Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Oh, okay. I see it now. I still don’t see those situations as being analogous though. Your daughter has a baby with her boyfriend, vs. your daughter gets pregnant by her rapist, and your response as a father is the same? Either child-out-of-wedlock is disproportionately bad in your mind, or you’re not quite grasping the concept of rape baby. From the perspective of this particular father, I think it means that obviously his innocent and pure as the driven snow daughter wouldn’t have premarital sex so her boyfriend must have raped her. There’s just no other explanation. At least in his mind. And yes, he’s a putz. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6611 "2012-08-28T12:08:55Z")
> [@slumtrimpet](#): > > From the perspective of this particular father, I think it means that obviously his innocent and pure as the driven snow daughter wouldn’t have premarital sex so her boyfriend must have raped her. There’s just no other explanation. At least in his mind. And yes, he’s a putz. Even if by any stretch of logic he’s right that from the woman’s father’s POV, it doesn’t matter whether the inseminator is a rapist or a boyfriend (and really, is there even a difference from his POV?), it surely makes a difference to the daughter. Luckily for Dad, since she’s not yet married, he owns her and can make all the right decisions for her regardless of her childish ideas. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6612 "2012-08-28T12:52:05Z")
I prefer the earlier interpretation, that a father whose daughter has a child out of wedlock is pretty much a rapist. ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6613 "2012-08-28T13:20:39Z")
James O’Keefe will skip the Republican convention and guest of honor/guest speaker at a ‘free market’ luncheon because of “government restrictions.” He didn’t say what those restictions are… yet. The message on his website says “Due to unforeseen circumstances, the guest speaker for our luncheon, James O’Keefe, will not be able to personally attend JMI’s event tomorrow,” read the statement. “However, he will participate via Skype with both remarks and a robust Q & A session. Come hear why the federal government has revoked permission for him to travel to Tampa.” I didn’t think travel restrictions due to probation could be fairly called ‘government restrictions on travel’, but then, I’m not a right wing nut case. And unforseen? I guess if you have a low IQ. He (and 3 friends) got 3 years probation for breaking in to United States Senator Mary Landrieu and tampering with her phones in January 2010. The charges in the case were reduced from a felony to a single misdemeanor count of entering a federal building under false pretenses and given three years’ probation, 100 hours of community service and a $1,500 fine. ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6614 "2012-08-28T13:38:47Z")
The link is from a Fox affiliate, so I would at first assume it is not true, but this one has the smell of truth: Maine Republicans elected their delegates, but because the delegates may not vote for Romney, they are now banned from the convention. AND, rules changes will allow the Party to refuse seats to any state that won’t vote the way the GOP says they should in future elections. AND, Romney’s campaign lawyers instigated this change but Romney denies knowing anything about it. All of this is to block the Ron Paul supporters. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llg-a8FamJg) ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6615 "2012-08-28T13:41:00Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Oh, okay. I see it now. I still don’t see those situations as being analogous though. Your daughter has a baby with her boyfriend, vs. your daughter gets pregnant by her rapist, and your response as a father is the same? Either child-out-of-wedlock is disproportionately bad in your mind, or you’re not quite grasping the concept of rape baby. It makes complete sense. Premarital sex = rape. That’s why the Bible says we should stone rape 'victims." ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6616 "2012-08-28T13:42:13Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > The message on his website > . Clarification: The cancellation message is on the James Madison website, not O’Keefe’s. [http://www.jamesmadison.org/press-room/2012-aug27-event-update-tampa-lunch-with-james-okeefe.html](http://www.jamesmadison.org/press-room/2012-aug27-event-update-tampa-lunch-with-james-okeefe.html) ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6617 "2012-08-28T13:43:36Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > The link is from a Fox affiliate, so I would at first assume it is not true, but this one has the smell of truth: > > Maine Republicans elected their delegates, but because the delegates may not vote for Romney, they are now banned from the convention. AND, rules changes will allow the Party to refuse seats to any state that won’t vote the way the GOP says they should in future elections. AND, Romney’s campaign lawyers instigated this change but Romney denies knowing anything about it. > > All of this is to block the Ron Paul supporters. > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llg-a8FamJg&feature=share](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llg-a8FamJg&feature=share) [Yes, but the Texas delegates are revolting.](http://www.salon.com/2012/08/27/texan_gop_delegation_revolts/) And they’re protesting the rule changes, too. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6618 "2012-08-28T13:57:36Z")
The Republicans might not be stupid, just needing “cognitive closure.” [Link](http://www.salon.com/2012/08/27/study_right_twists_facts/) Basically, a new study says that the Right tend to bend reality to fit their moral view because ambiguity makes them feel oogy. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6619 "2012-08-28T14:01:06Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > He (and 3 friends) got 3 years probation for breaking in to United States Senator Mary Landrieu That sounds painful… ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/6620 "2012-08-28T14:18:00Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > That sounds painful… LOL- I knew someone was gonna get me for that. Darned gotcha media (that would be you in Palinspeak)! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=330) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=332)