# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 358
**Author:** ![Theios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e8c25b/32.png) [@Theios](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theios)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2012, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7141 "2012-10-07T13:29:01Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > I have some experience living in areas dominated by religious nutjobs if that is what you mean. I am just very surprised at how tenacious the anti-intellectualism can be. We’ve been going over some of this stuff for decades, and people still say, “Nope! Everything we’ve learned about the universe is invalidated by a few lines written down by some goat herders 2000+ years ago.” > > It is baffling and I still don’t know how to reach those people. I feel for you, man. ps got a linky to the local paper? [Athens Banner-Herald](http://onlineathens.com/) is my local paper. [This](http://onlineathens.com/local-news/2012-10-05/broun-evolution-big-bang-theory-are-lies-straight-pit-hell) is the article on Broun, and I must say… the local intellectuals have really stepped up to the plate on that one. It looks to me like all of the faculty at UGA (local college) descended on that thread, almost like someone put out a memo. A few of the local nutjobs made an appearance, but got shouted down. I wish they rally like that for the anti-homosexual articles… oh well. As for reaching those people… I don’t even try. I spend most of my time trying to not have them notice that I’m a godless-liberal-obamavoting-homosexual. I have to work with these people, I’d rather they not hate me. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2012, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7142 "2012-10-07T17:35:46Z")
> [@Theios](#): > > [Athens Banner-Herald](http://onlineathens.com/) is my local paper. [This](http://onlineathens.com/local-news/2012-10-05/broun-evolution-big-bang-theory-are-lies-straight-pit-hell) is the article on Broun, and I must say… the local intellectuals have really stepped up to the plate on that one. It looks to me like all of the faculty at UGA (local college) descended on that thread, almost like someone put out a memo. A few of the local nutjobs made an appearance, but got shouted down. I wish they rally like that for the anti-homosexual articles… oh well. Thanks for the link. Here’s a telling quote: > [@](#): > > Broun, a Republican from Oconee County, is a medical doctor and running unopposed in District 10 on the November ballot. :smack: How come there isn’t anybody running against him?! But this answers my question, “How do these guys get elected?” :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > As for reaching those people… I don’t even try. I spend most of my time trying to not have them notice that I’m a godless-liberal-obamavoting-homosexual. I have to work with these people, I’d rather they not hate me. Keeping a low profile, eh? I can’t blame you. However, if people can be convinced of the dumbest possible notions, it must be possible to educate them about some basic information. Nobody has to give up their religion (though I suppose aggressively spiking it with counter-factual information is a way to keep people stupid), but if we don’t bring the rear of our pack up to speed they are going to [del]hold our country back[/del] continue to hold our country back. These fundamentalist ingorants are the smart man’s burden I tell ya! Maybe it is time to start sending pairs of clean-cut, well dressed young men into your community to knock on doors and talk to the people about basic geology and biology. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7143 "2012-10-07T17:47:02Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Maybe it is time to start sending pairs of clean-cut, well dressed young men into your community to knock on doors and talk to the people about basic geology and biology. “Good morning, ma’am. We’d like to talk to you for a moment about Alfred Wegener and Charles Darwin. If you’re busy right now, we can leave you a copy of “The Origin Of The Species” to read and come back at a later time to discuss it with you.” ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2012, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7144 "2012-10-07T18:16:57Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Saying you are a Juris Doctor sounds better than admitting you’re just another fucking lawyer That’s why my law school has a trade in program: hand in your LL.B. and receive a J.D. It takes five box tops, four box bottoms, three labels, two wrappers, and one thin dime. ---
**Author:** ![zoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/71c47a/32.png) [@zoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoo)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2012, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7145 "2012-10-07T19:28:54Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > “Good morning, ma’am. We’d like to talk to you for a moment about Alfred Wegener and Charles Darwin. If you’re busy right now, we can leave you a copy of “The Origin Of The Species” to read and come back at a later time to discuss it with you.” And here you are… [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dW-bt\_1LzY](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dW-bt_1LzY) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7146 "2012-10-07T19:58:23Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > That’s why my law school has a trade in program: hand in your LL.B. and receive a J.D. It takes five box tops, four box bottoms, three labels, two wrappers, and one thin dime. So, you end up with four boxes of Cheerios all over the floor, and a fifth that goes stale in a week. And you’re out ten cents. ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2012, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7147 "2012-10-07T21:37:48Z")
> [@zoo](#): > > And here you are… [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dW-bt\_1LzY](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dW-bt_1LzY) I won’t link to it because it’s a tangent, but that link has another video with Penn Jillette talking about atheism and the 2012 presidential race that’s really exciting. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7148 "2012-10-07T22:18:20Z")
> [@zoo](#): > > And here you are… [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dW-bt\_1LzY](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dW-bt_1LzY) Briliant! ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7149 "2012-10-08T20:11:54Z")
[Charlie Fuque](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/08/charlie-fuqua-arkansas-candidate-death-penalty-rebellious-children_n_1948490.html) > [@](#): > > The maintenance of civil order in society rests on the foundation of family discipline. Therefore, a child who disrespects his parents must be permanently removed from society in a way that gives an example to all other children of the importance of respect for parents. The death penalty for rebellious children is not something to be taken lightly. The guidelines for administering the death penalty to rebellious children are given in Deut 21:18-21: ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7150 "2012-10-08T20:29:19Z")
I’m betting the definition of “rebellious” includes homosexuality or transgender. ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7151 "2012-10-08T21:51:55Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I’m betting the definition of “rebellious” includes homosexuality or transgender. Well duh, of course. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7152 "2012-10-08T22:16:32Z")
> [@sinjin](#): > > The death penalty for rebellious children is not something to be taken lightly. Hey, once born, sanctity of life means nothing. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7153 "2012-10-08T23:16:35Z")
[QUOTE= King James Version] 18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: 19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; 20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. 21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. [/QUOTE] Charming. I wonder if it just the translation … [QUOTE= New International Version] A Rebellious Son 18 If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.” 21 Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid. [/QUOTE] Nope. But I think this is the worst. [QUOTE= New Life Version] 18 “If a man has a strong-willed son who goes against him and does not obey his father or mother and when they punish him he will not even listen to them, 19 then his father and mother will take hold of him and bring him to the leaders of his city at the gate of his city. 20 They will say to the leaders of his city, ‘This son of ours is strong-willed and goes against us. He will not obey us. He eats and drinks too much.’ 21 Then all the men of his city will kill him with stones. You must get rid of the sin from among you. All Israel will hear about it and be afraid. [/QUOTE] There you have it; the gentleman from Arkansas believes you can kill your child for being strong-willed or eating and drinking too much. “Children would know that their parents had authority and it would be a tremendous incentive for children to give proper respect to their parents.” ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7154 "2012-10-08T23:30:34Z")
It would be an incentive to run away from home! Who said anything about the rebellious son being a gluttonous drunkard? Sounds like Mom and Dad tacked that on at the last minute! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7155 "2012-10-09T01:05:01Z")
You can’t blame them. Last Saturday night the found all the Cheetos were gone and while the bottle of vodka looked full it had been diluted to a homeopathic extent. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7156 "2012-10-09T01:19:39Z")
> [@](#): > > 21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. I w onder if someone has suggested to Iran that they stone a bunch of their children to death instead of building nukes. Think of the savings! ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7157 "2012-10-09T04:34:48Z")
Deuteronomy? Isn’t that the spurious “fifth book of Torah” that suddenly appeared in King Josiah’s day? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7158 "2012-10-09T12:04:53Z")
[I wonder if this is Paul Ryan’s plan for the debate on Thursday;](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/08/paul-ryan-interview-abruptly-ends_n_1949721.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D217327) > [@](#): > > In the clip, which was removed from ABC 12’s website but captured and posted by BuzzFeed, the station’s reporter asks Ryan, "Does this country have a gun problem?’ > > The GOP vice presidential candidate responds that “this country has a crime problem.” When the reporter asks for clarification, Ryan explains that “good, strong gun laws” are currently on the books, “but we have to make sure we enforce our laws.” > > …ABC 12’s reporter then offers a somewhat odd retort, asking, “And you can do all that by cutting taxes? By…with a big tax cut?” > > “Those are your words, not mine,” answers Ryan. A voice off-screen then implies that the interview is over… > > Ryan then abruptly stands up and removes his microphone, immediately ending the interview and telling the reporter, “That was kind of strange. You’re trying to stuff words in people’s mouths?” ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7159 "2012-10-09T12:28:56Z")
Is that an exclusive or in Deutereonomy? Leaves a bit of wriggling room. Say if father wants a fit child and the mother wants a sober child, perhaps the child would still survive. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7160 "2012-10-09T13:32:44Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > [I wonder if this is Paul Ryan’s plan for the debate on Thursday;](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/08/paul-ryan-interview-abruptly-ends_n_1949721.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D217327) I dislike Ryan, I think he’s a sleezy, out of touch, big business whore, but I’m not faulting him for that one bit. The interviewer was confrontational and the question that ended it was not to get information at all, but rather to try to score some kind of political point. That whole thing is on the interviewer, not on Ryan. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=357) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=359)