# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 364
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7261 "2012-10-18T13:35:48Z")
Actually a great idea for the Republicans - [Religion News: **Billy Graham** takes Mormonism off cult list](http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=newssearch&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDIQqQIoADAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tauntongazette.com%2Freligion%2Fx2051151425%2FReligion-News-Billy-Graham-takes-Mormonism-off-cult-list&ei=YgSAULikK4ye8QSKq4D4Cw&usg=AFQjCNHayQ0RRHFWLoH0v3dTHpcSwbj2CQ&sig2=SDWC7jfZ2GJq1_bJBxVa6A) This doesn’t strike me as a thorough re-examination of the origins, texts, and tenets of the Mormon religion. Seems more like political expediency:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7262 "2012-10-18T14:13:09Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Actually a great idea for the Republicans - [Religion News: **Billy Graham** takes Mormonism off cult list](http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=newssearch&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDIQqQIoADAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tauntongazette.com%2Freligion%2Fx2051151425%2FReligion-News-Billy-Graham-takes-Mormonism-off-cult-list&ei=YgSAULikK4ye8QSKq4D4Cw&usg=AFQjCNHayQ0RRHFWLoH0v3dTHpcSwbj2CQ&sig2=SDWC7jfZ2GJq1_bJBxVa6A) > > This doesn’t strike me as a thorough re-examination of the origins, texts, and tenets of the Mormon religion. Seems more like political expediency:rolleyes: Billy Graham _personally_ or Graham’s organization? I’m not a huge Billy Graham fan, but he’s at least on the less-rabid end of that spectrum and not really prone to change his core message for political reasons. Which makes me think that either That Bastard Franklin has been browbeating Dad for quite a while to make that change, or That Bastard Franklin is just making the change himself while Dad is having a bout of dementia. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7263 "2012-10-18T14:32:55Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > [Steve Fitzgerald, Kansas State Senate candidate, says Democrats aren’t true Christians.](http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/10/16/1019861/democrats-arent-real-catholics-says-kansas-senate-candidate/) > > I wonder if people giving these kind of “You can either be a Christian or a liberal” options are why the number of self-professed non-religious people in America has doubled since 2000. Candidate Steve Fitzgerald Said: > [@](#): > > Christ said marriage is between one man and one woman To which I would scream “CITE!” Why is it that folks that wrap themselves in the cloak of religious superiority often do not even know what the bible says. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7264 "2012-10-18T14:35:48Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > To which I would scream “CITE!” Why is it that folks that wrap themselves in the cloak of religious superiority often do not even know what the bible says. C’mon. It’s not like they’ve ever read it. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7265 "2012-10-18T16:21:32Z")
There are elements of Christian charity and generosity in Billy Graham that are entirely absent in Franklin. Sometimes that “prodigal son” thing doesn’t work out. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7266 "2012-10-18T16:27:29Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Candidate Steve Fitzgerald Said: > > To which I would scream “CITE!” Why is it that folks that wrap themselves in the cloak of religious superiority often do not even know what the bible says. I would assume they’d say something along the lines of, “Jesus is God and God says gay marriage is wrong because He made buttholes stinky.” ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7267 "2012-10-18T16:36:26Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > There are elements of Christian charity and generosity in Billy Graham that are entirely absent in Franklin. Sometimes that “prodigal son” thing doesn’t work out. Wasn’t the prodigal son parable about being forgiven even though you’re an asshole? Seems to fit Frank perfectly. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7268 "2012-10-18T17:50:48Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > C’mon. It’s not like they’ve ever read it. "Have you ever sat down and read this thing? Technically we’re not allowed to go to the bathroom. ” —Reverend Lovejoy, The Simpsons ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7269 "2012-10-18T19:45:33Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > C’mon. It’s not like they’ve ever read it. [Example.](http://freakoutnation.com/2012/10/18/dinesh-dsouza-claims-he-didnt-know-it-wasnt-christian-like-behavior-to-see-another-woman-while-married/) > [@](#): > > “I believe I have good biblical grounds for divorce and was going through the legitimate process,” said D’Souza. “The thing I will admit: I did not have any idea that it is seen as wrong in Christian circles to be engaged prior to being divorced even though separated. … That was a true error of judgment, but it was truly a case where I didn’t know better.” ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7270 "2012-10-18T20:03:23Z")
nm… ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7271 "2012-10-18T20:11:57Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Funny thing, their idea of “normal” is so narrow and constricted, very few people actually fit within the category. Even Ozzie, of _Ozzie and Harriet_, he was an atheist. That’s a true fact, you could look it up… I don’t know, this said it was [a rumor sustained after the autobiography was published](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0625651/bio) > [@](#): > > Although Ozzie published his autobiography in the last years of his life with his Christian image intact, pesky rumors followed him later on that he was in actuality an atheist. They remain just that – rumors. This said he admitted to [being an Atheist in his autobiography](http://www.answers.com/topic/ozzie-nelson) [quote=] Shortly before his death, Ozzie Nelson published his autobiography, in which he shocked many of his Bible-belt fans by revealing that he was a lifelong atheist [/quote] It seems like there has to be somebody that had read the fucking book somewhere and could weigh in. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7272 "2012-10-18T20:40:10Z")
> [@](#): > > “I believe I have good biblical grounds for divorce and was going through the legitimate process,” said D’Souza. Apparently, his “good biblical grounds” are derived from the Book of Chaplin: > [@](#): > > The young woman D’Souza is bedding is young enough to be his granddaughter. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7273 "2012-10-18T21:20:17Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > I don’t know, this said it was [a rumor sustained after the autobiography was published](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0625651/bio) > This said he admitted to [being an Atheist in his autobiography](http://www.answers.com/topic/ozzie-nelson) > > It seems like there has to be somebody that had read the fucking book somewhere and could weigh in. The phrase “true fact” is usually a red flag. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7274 "2012-10-18T21:38:48Z")
Latest walking-back of talking points; [Peter King is now incensed that it took Obama _four minutes_ to refer to Benghazi as an act of terror.](http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/10/18/1040521/peter-king-obama-libya-4-minutes/) Honorable mention; it looks like we finally know who inspired all these CEOs to tell their employees they’re fired if Obama wins - [it was (surprise, surprise) Mitt Romney’s idea.](http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/10/17/1037881/leaked-audio-romney-employers/) ---
**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7275 "2012-10-18T22:16:30Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > “I believe I have good biblical grounds for divorce and was going through the legitimate process,” said D’Souza. > > Apparently, his “good biblical grounds” are derived from the Book of Chaplin: > > > [@](#): > > > > The young woman D’Souza is bedding is young enough to be his granddaughter. D’Souza is 51 years old. Denise Odie Joseph is 29 years old. Sure, while it is technically biologically possible for three generations to be separated by only 22 years, most of us don’t reproduce at the age of 11, so I think the old “young enough to be his daughter” cliche is adequate for our pearl-clutching needs. Let me note that per this [website](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/big-love-king-s-college-dsouzas-mistress-was-also-married), Odie Joseph was also married and has been known to write, straight-faced, such hilarious gems as “I was already going to vote for Romney because my husband told me to.” Gee, I wonder if her husband also told her to bang D’Souza. ---
**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7276 "2012-10-18T22:34:28Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > [Steve Fitzgerald, Kansas State Senate candidate, says Democrats aren’t true Christians.](http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/10/16/1019861/democrats-arent-real-catholics-says-kansas-senate-candidate/) > > I wonder if people giving these kind of “You can either be a Christian or a liberal” options are why the number of self-professed non-religious people in America has doubled since 2000. I didn’t become non-religious, I converted to another faith, but conservative “Christians” who hate welfare but cheer military spending are a large part of the reason I stopped being one. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7277 "2012-10-18T22:41:02Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Honorable mention; it looks like we finally know who inspired all these CEOs to tell their employees they’re fired if Obama wins - [it was (surprise, surprise) Mitt Romney’s idea.](http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/10/17/1037881/leaked-audio-romney-employers/) Well, as Romney said: > [@](#): > > Nothing illegal about you talking to your employees about what you believe is best for the business And, as we all know from honorable posters here, as long as it’s legal, it is the right thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7278 "2012-10-19T03:01:27Z")
> [@sugaree](#): > > D’Souza is 51 years old. Denise Odie Joseph is 29 years old. By the “half-your-age-plus-seven” rule that’s not “Eeeew!” It’s “You the man!” (looking at her photo on her blog) Okay, maybe a bit “Eeeew!” Lots less creepy if she, herself, weren’t creepy, though. Maybe kinda toothsome in a toothy sort of way. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2012, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7279 "2012-10-19T03:14:09Z")
Yeah? And? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2012, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/7280 "2012-10-19T03:26:42Z")
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