# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8561 "2013-02-07T20:52:35Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Can somebody please tell Bryan Fischer that a state senator is trying to force high school students to read a novel that explicitly promotes atheism, and adultery?

Those words are over two syllables long, so he probably doesn’t know what they mean.

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**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8562 "2013-02-07T21:11:27Z")

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> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> (And not only is it substanceless and an insult, it’s rude to people with disabilities, like my child. Please don’t use that as an insult - pick another one).

I **completely** agree with you on this, but the rest of what you’re saying, sorry no. Others are pointing out what I also think, but better and quicker than I.

Again, I sincerely and fully support your statement above, though the question was not quite as awful as just that word _retard_, which I believe I’ve seen you comment on. It’s very unkind for people born with these conditions to have that word used as an insult.

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8563 "2013-02-07T21:12:27Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> You’re falling into an easy trap… yes, it’s certainly the case that for any given Bad Thing there is almost certainly at least one example of someone “on the left” doing it and one example of someone “on the right” doing it. There are thieves and scoundrels of all political persuasions.

Thanks for agreeing with me 100%. That’s all I said.

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> That said, there’s no grand principle of political-malfeasance-balance which somehow ensures that the amount of any one particular Bad Thing is anywhere near equal between the two sides at any given time.

Didn’t say that at all.

Of course, my friend Roger was smart enough to allow that there are every once in a while maybe one or two liberals who are stupid or crazy, if they aren’t fake or not “real” liberals (like he’s already declared me). But obviously there are more than that.

I’ll agree that there are probably alot more right wing loons these days. But to say that your side is nearly perfect is just self-serving idiocy. We’re all human beings here.

> [@](#):
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> In other words, unless you’re refuting a really extreme and absolute claim (EVERY Republican is X, NO Democrat has ever done Y) you can’t just make the facile point that neither side is perfect and act like you’ve scored a point.

I’m not here to score points.

> [@](#):
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> So is it the case that approximately as many prominent Democrats are guilty of whatever-the-heck-it-is-that-we-were-talking-about as prominent Republicans? Well, maybe. Democrats aren’t saints.

Cool.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8564 "2013-02-07T21:15:19Z")

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God, you people are harshing my make fun of Republicans buzz.

Stop it.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8565 "2013-02-07T21:16:38Z")

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> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> No, but try to follow along, this will be long: When right wingers say there’s a war on Christmas because a liberal attacked Christianity or something (whether or not he actually did), sometimes a liberal says “but I have a First Amendment right to say that, so you can’t criticize me for what I said.” And then you’re on the flip side.
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> Then the righty says “you’re just hiding behind the First Amendment!”
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> If it’s too much, never mind. I’m sure that right wingers are all drooling dolts and liberals are pretty much all sane geniuses. What could go wrong just assuming that?

Most of the time when I hear a right winger bitching about a War on Christmas, its not because anything was attacked; it’s because someone had the temerity to say Happy Holidays to someone. And the response is barely ever, “First Amendment, bitch!” but rather, “shut the fuck up, you whiner, not everyone’s a Christian, you know.”

But more to the point, who’s claiming all right-wingers a drooling dolts and all liberals are sane geniuses? Not I. What I do claim is that if you want bug-fuck crazy shit from a sitting congress person, your best bet is to look for an R after his name.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8566 "2013-02-07T21:35:08Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> God, you people are harshing my make fun of Republicans buzz.
> 
> Stop it.

We were fine until the reincarnation of David “Both Sides Do It” Broder stepped into the thread. Now we’re not allowed to bring up any stupid Republican ideas unless we preface it with “Democrats have stupid ideas, too. Did you hear about…” on pain of being lectured to death.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8567 "2013-02-07T21:49:34Z")

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Lance, this is a big thread. How much of it have you read?

These are not random people we’re bringing up. They are  
[ul]  
[li]Republican elected officials, with specific policies we can link to[/li][li]Republican elected officials, generally[/li][li]Republican candidates for office[/li][li]Former Republican candidates or elected officials[/li][li]Lobbyists for Republican causes[/li][li]Republican committee members[/li][li]Television or radio commentators[/li][/ul]

And in the last case it’s still kind of iffy. But do you get what this list is? The Republican party. Not random Joe off the street. Not the dumbass with a blog that gets 3 hits. Not even the goddamned Freepers, which could supply such an endless running list of stupid ideas and things said you’d have to change this thread to “…of the minute”

Do you get it? Republicans. Actual, honest to goodness representatives of the Party who are making honest to goodness fucking stupid decisions on behalf of the country.

This is what so infuriates me about the Stupid Liberal idea of the Day thread. Half the posts just don’t get what the fuck their own thread is supposed to be about.

If you want to say “both parties are bad” you’re going to have to come to the argument with evidence. And that evidence has to be of equal weight.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8568 "2013-02-07T21:56:55Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> This is what so infuriates me about the Stupid Liberal idea of the Day thread. Half the posts just don’t get what the fuck their own thread is supposed to be about.

And half the posts there are us mocking the alleged SLIOD.

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**Author:** ![redtail23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3e96dc/32.png) [@redtail23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/redtail23)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8569 "2013-02-07T22:06:14Z")

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Hey, lance, there’s a [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=605448) for that. If you want to bitch about stupid Liberal ideas, go over there.

This one is for bitching about stupid Republican ideas.

ETA: OK, OK, I should have refreshed the thread before I posted. But I brought a link!

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**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8570 "2013-02-07T22:34:12Z")

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> [@MacCat](#):
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> I **completely** agree with you on this, but the rest of what you’re saying, sorry no. Others are pointing out what I also think, but better and quicker than I.
> 
> Again, I sincerely and fully support your statement above, though the question was not quite as awful as just that word _retard_, which I believe I’ve seen you comment on. It’s very unkind for people born with these conditions to have that word used as an insult.

I wasn’t asking if he was severely autistic as an insult, I was asking because then I could understand why he doesn’t understand the concept of a generalization re: him explaining to me that there are exceptions to my broad statement as if I meant what I said as an absolute statement of some kind with no exceptions. Also, I’ve seen him make pedantic nitpicks like this before, either he doesn’t understand how human communication works because of some kind of medical issue, or he is a twat who gets his jollies by pretending superiority by picking at a scab of what people SAY instead of what normal people know is MEANT.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8571 "2013-02-07T22:39:54Z")

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Does Marco Rubio claiming that [Eminem is “the only rapper who speaks with any kind of depth”](http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2013/02/07/1557471/guest-post-what-marco-rubio-doesnt-understand-about-hip-hop/) count as a SRIotD?

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8572 "2013-02-07T23:56:48Z")

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> [@redtail23](#):
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> Hey, lance, there’s a [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=605448) for that. If you want to bitch about stupid Liberal ideas, go over there.

I’m not. I’m complaining about people who think there are no stupid liberal ideas, or stupid liberals. Of course there are - and more than a few.

Your link helps prove that point though, so thanks.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8573 "2013-02-07T23:58:03Z")

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[Iowa bill would jail raped women for ‘murder’ of single-cell zygotes](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/07/iowa-bill-would-jail-raped-women-for-murder-of-single-cell-zygotes/)

"State Rep. Tom Shaw says that he authored House File 138 to protect human life, whether “you’re a zygote, an infant, a teenager or an adult.”

The bill defines a “person” as “an individual human being, without regard to age of development, from the moment of conception, when a zygote is formed, until natural death.”

“Murder includes killing another person through any means that terminates the life of the other person including but not limited to the use of abortion-inducing drugs,” the measure states without making any exceptions for rape or incest. "  
And apparently no exceptions for self-defense. If this bill were to pass, I’d love nothing more than to start forcing these fuckers to arrest every person who shot and killed someone in self-defense for murder, so I could shove their asses down their own slippery slope.

Assholes.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8574 "2013-02-07T23:58:32Z")

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> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> I’m not. I’m complaining about people who think there are no stupid liberal ideas, or stupid liberals. Of course there are - and more than a few.

No one in this thread thinks there are no stupid liberals. We see evidence.

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8575 "2013-02-07T23:59:30Z")

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> [@rogerbox](#):
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> I wasn’t asking if he was severely autistic as an insult, I was asking because then I could understand why he doesn’t understand the concept of a generalization re: him explaining to me that there are exceptions to my broad statement as if I meant what I said as an absolute statement of some kind with no exceptions. Also, I’ve seen him make pedantic nitpicks like this before, either he doesn’t understand how human communication works because of some kind of medical issue, or he is a twat who gets his jollies by pretending superiority by picking at a scab of what people SAY instead of what normal people know is MEANT.

I think you’ve demonstrated quite well what level of discourse you’re at. Insults, refusal to consider other people’s opinions before dismissing them, more insults. The problem with our communication is that you aren’t listening and you aren’t patient enough, not that I have some kind of developmental disability. Trust me, I’m smarter than you think I am. Probably most people are smarter than you think they are.

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8576 "2013-02-08T00:00:33Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> No one in this thread thinks there are no stupid liberals. We see evidence.

Yes, some people in this thread think there are only 2 or 3 stupid liberals in the whole wide world.

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8577 "2013-02-08T00:02:39Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> Lance, this is a big thread. How much of it have you read?
> 
> These are not random people we’re bringing up. They are  
> [ul]  
> [li]Republican elected officials, with specific policies we can link to[/li][li]Republican elected officials, generally[/li][li]Republican candidates for office[/li][li]Former Republican candidates or elected officials[/li][li]Lobbyists for Republican causes[/li][li]Republican committee members[/li][li]Television or radio commentators[/li][/ul]
> 
> And in the last case it’s still kind of iffy. But do you get what this list is? The Republican party. Not random Joe off the street. Not the dumbass with a blog that gets 3 hits. Not even the goddamned Freepers, which could supply such an endless running list of stupid ideas and things said you’d have to change this thread to “…of the minute”
> 
> Do you get it? Republicans. Actual, honest to goodness representatives of the Party who are making honest to goodness fucking stupid decisions on behalf of the country.

I didn’t say there weren’t stupid Republicans. Did you read what I wrote?

> [@](#):
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> If you want to say “both parties are bad” you’re going to have to come to the argument with evidence. And that evidence has to be of equal weight.

No, I don’t even remotely have to do that. Come on. No, I’m not going to prove to you that the Democrats aren’t absolutely perfect and flawless. I’m a lifelong Democrat but come on, that’s just ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8578 "2013-02-08T00:02:44Z")

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> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> Yes, some people in this thread think there are only 2 or 3 stupid liberals in the whole wide world.

Just out of curiosity, do you think this is an argument and that you’re winning?

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8579 "2013-02-08T00:04:17Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> We were fine until the reincarnation of David “Both Sides Do It” Broder stepped into the thread. Now we’re not allowed to bring up any stupid Republican ideas unless we preface it with “Democrats have stupid ideas, too. Did you hear about…” on pain of being lectured to death.

I said nothing of the sort.

I’ve never seen so many people work so hard not to say they aren’t perfect, or that their chosen “team” isn’t perfect. Jeez, people.

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8580 "2013-02-08T00:05:17Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> God, you people are harshing my make fun of Republicans buzz.
> 
> Stop it.

First honest reply.

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