# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 445
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8881 "2013-03-06T03:02:11Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > [http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/iowa-pol-easy-divorce-can-lead-to-promiscuous-kids-88426.html?hp=l9](http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/iowa-pol-easy-divorce-can-lead-to-promiscuous-kids-88426.html?hp=l9) > > [Iowa GOP Lawmakers Try To Curtail Divorce, Worry It Makes Young Women More 'Promiscuous' (UPDATE) | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/05/iowa-divorce_n_2808001.html?utm_hp_ref=politics) > > GOP state Rep. Tedd Gassman(R) Iowa, wants to eliminate no fault divorce in Iowa. He’s afraid girls (specifically his granddaughter) will become promiscuous due to parental divorce. > > I’ll make a prediction as to how this bill is going to be defeated. Someone will point out that (divorce) trial lawyers will love it. It would bring back the days of manufactured cause, and boost fees. > > Also, the often trumped up grounds make great reading for the former minor children when they get older and more curious about their parents’ divorce. > > The GOP is really the party of the family, isn’t it? > > The fact that anti-family violence groups oppose the measure speaks for itself. I am sure his 16-year-old Granddaughter is just thrilled that Gramps just publically called her a slut. That should make X-mas, not to mention the rest of High School, a real thrill. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8882 "2013-03-06T03:07:26Z")
He didn’t say she _was_ a slut, only could potentially become one after her parents get their divorce. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8883 "2013-03-06T10:10:21Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > He didn’t say she _was_ a slut, only could potentially become one after her parents get their divorce. “Hey baby - how about your legs go through a trial separation? Aw yeah…” ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8884 "2013-03-06T17:48:45Z")
“What are the possibilities of all these other things surrounding her life that a 16-year-old girl, with hormones raging, can get herself into?” Well, she could masturbate! ARRRRRRRRHHHHHH, Burn in Hell, you dispicable poster!!! Die, Die, Die!!! ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8885 "2013-03-06T17:51:22Z")
**More Teahadist control over vaginas** [http://www.wyff4.com/news/columbia-statewide-news/Upstate-moms-fight-South-Carolina-Lay-Midwife-Act/-/9324106/19179856/-/format/rsss\_2.0/-/f16w13/-/index.html](http://www.wyff4.com/news/columbia-statewide-news/Upstate-moms-fight-South-Carolina-Lay-Midwife-Act/-/9324106/19179856/-/format/rsss_2.0/-/f16w13/-/index.html) A bill sponsored by Rep. Kris Crawford (R). > [@](#): > > The proposed bill, the South Carolina Lay Midwife Act states midwives delivering babies have to be under supervision of an obstetrician. Midwife Linda Weaver says if passed, midwifery would be eliminated in the state. > > \ ***snip** > > Language in the bill also suggests women would not be allowed to give birth at home. And they say they hate government control. Ha! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8886 "2013-03-06T17:53:00Z")
What’s that got to do with vaginas? The state certainly has an interest in regulating professional activity. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8887 "2013-03-06T18:02:18Z")
It’s vagina interference of the consumer choice variety. A “normal” pregnancy shouldn’t require an obstetrician if the mother is okay with a midwife delivering the baby. You’re just mandating additional expense. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8888 "2013-03-06T18:05:13Z")
Pretty much every state requires me to see an optometrist when I want glasses, so they can test for glaucoma. It’s just what legislatures do. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8889 "2013-03-06T18:16:14Z")
Doesn’t make it right. I’m nowhere near a libertarian, but I don’t doubt that there are a slew of silly regulations and licensing requirements in every state that add inefficiency and increase cost. Every optometrist I’ve seen has been an unreasonable prick about sending my prescription where I want it to go. Now maybe South Carolina has observed a higher incidence of complications when midwives are employed. Maybe insurance companies push mothers towards a midwife when it’s inappropriate, to save money. If that’s the case, they should go after the insurance companies. Eliminating midwifery is taking a meat cleaver to the problem. Maybe business was slow for the obstetricians. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8890 "2013-03-06T18:21:02Z")
No, but it doesn’t make it dumb, either. > [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Now maybe South Carolina has observed a higher incidence of complications when midwives are employed. That’s kind of my point. The fact that it’s posted in this thread suggests that the bill is stupid _per se_. Maybe it is, but there’s no actual evidence of that in the linked article. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8891 "2013-03-06T18:23:29Z")
They may have their reasons, but the idea that a mother _must_ have a trained medical specialist on hand for something as natural as childbirth seems a bit much. Obviously if it’s a complicated pregnancy you want the trained professionals on hand, but women should be able to handle garden variety pregnancies on their own terms. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8892 "2013-03-06T18:27:05Z")
I have no intention of moving to South Carolina, but if I did, I wonder if I would find myself needing to engage the services of an ENT specialist any time I wanted to pick my nose. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8893 "2013-03-06T18:30:27Z")
I have a hard time getting behind the SC pile on in this case. I think the idea is that a midwife should at least have a OB on call, in case shit gets real. If my wife and I had used a midwife at home for our fist child, she may not have been able to make it into the hospital. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8894 "2013-03-06T18:33:39Z")
But if you have to pay for the “supervision” of the obstetrician, then why bother getting a midwife? The whole point of a midwife is that it saves you money. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8895 "2013-03-06T18:42:30Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I have no intention of moving to South Carolina, but if I did, I wonder if I would find myself needing to engage the services of an ENT specialist any time I wanted to pick my nose. If you really want to pick your nose you need to talk to a plastic surgeon… ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8896 "2013-03-06T19:16:58Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > I have a hard time getting behind the SC pile on in this case. **I think the idea is that a midwife should at least have a OB on call, in case shit gets real.** > > If my wife and I had used a midwife at home for our fist child, she may not have been able to make it into the hospital. I agree with the comment I’ve highlighted. And I believe most do. I know ours did. A discussion as to the dangers and benefits of home birthing probably needs to take place on the IMHO board. I did some searching and found this thread which is somewhat on point: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=620016&highlight=midwife](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=620016&highlight=midwife) Somewhere in SC, I would bet there is an obstetrician or group of obstetricians pushing this measure in order to protect his/their income stream. It certainly would not be the first time such a move has been made. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8897 "2013-03-06T19:34:36Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > If my wife and I had used a midwife at home for our fist child, she may not have been able to make it into the hospital. I had no idea a woman could get pregnant from being fisted! ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8898 "2013-03-06T20:03:23Z")
I proofread, too! ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8899 "2013-03-06T22:19:15Z")
**Texas GOP: Planned Parenthood Is Convincing Teens To Get Pregnant So It Can Perform Their Abortions** Right. That is incredibly twisted. “Planned Parenthood” - the term, not the organization, says that all children should be planned. Desired children, not accidents. I would wager that each and every PP volunteer would prefer dispensing birth control to performing an abortion. Who wouldn’t? [http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/03/06/1679351/texas-planned-parenthood-sex-ed/](http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/03/06/1679351/texas-planned-parenthood-sex-ed/) > [@](#): > > _ **snip** _ State Sen. Ken Paxton (R) wants to put even more restrictions on health classes by preventing “abortion affiliates” from providing any sexual health instruction or contraceptive resources. > > Texans who back Paxton’s measure argue that Planned Parenthood can’t be trusted to provide sex ed because, since the organization doesn’t want to “lose abortion business,” it has a vested interest in convincing teenagers to have sex and get pregnant _ **snip** _ > > . . . no supporter of Paxton’s bill provided examples of Planned Parenthood materials or information that has actually been used in schools. _ **snip** _ What a sicko if he believes PP is motivated in that manner. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/8900 "2013-03-06T22:22:06Z")
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