# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LeeshaJoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LeeshaJoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LeeshaJoy)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9121 "2013-04-01T16:21:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Steve MB quoting Talking Points Memo]  
Sue Everhart, chairwoman of the Georgia Republican Party, told the Marietta Daily Journal in a story published Saturday that once gay nuptials are legally permitted, there will be nothing to stop a straight person from exploiting the system in order to claim marital benefits…

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Yeah, because a man and a woman getting married purely for legal benefits has never happened in the history of mankind. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9122 "2013-04-01T19:08:35Z")

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[Florida Senator: Passing An Anti-Muslim Law Is Just Like Getting Vaccinated Against Polio](http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/04/01/1802631/florida-senator-passing-an-anti-muslim-law-is-just-like-getting-vaccinated-against-polio/)

I just can’t anymore.

What a bunch of sick fucks.

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**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9123 "2013-04-01T19:23:34Z")

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> [@LeeshaJoy](#):
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> Yeah, because a man and a woman getting married purely for legal benefits has never happened in the history of mankind. :rolleyes:

Yeah I’m confused, why would someone who wouldn’t otherwise get fake married for the benefits, suddenly get fake gay-married for the benefits? It’s the same mental deficiency opponents to SSM have where they point out the supposed health dangers of homosexual sex, as if there would be less homosexual sex without SSM (I’m not married, but from what I’ve heard if they actually want less gay sex going on shouldn’t they be PRO-SSM? 😛 )

The reality is they hate gay people and don’t want them treated as equals and all the rest is a smokescreen.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9124 "2013-04-01T20:07:07Z")

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Rick Santorum has given us the direct cause of “all this stuff about gay marriage”. What is this direct cause you ask? [Why, it’s Will & Grace, of course!](http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2013/03/31/rick-santorum-says-tv-sitcom-will-and-grace-gave-rise-to-all-this-stuff-about-gay-marriage/) How could I have been so blind?!? Thank you, Reverend Santorum.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9125 "2013-04-01T20:27:22Z")

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In the same way, _The Walking Dead_ has made me reconsider my position on necro-marriage.

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9126 "2013-04-01T23:04:47Z")

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> [@rogerbox](#):
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> Yeah I’m confused, why would someone who wouldn’t otherwise get fake married for the benefits, suddenly get fake gay-married for the benefits? It’s the same mental deficiency opponents to SSM have where they point out the supposed health dangers of homosexual sex, as if there would be less homosexual sex without SSM (I’m not married, but from what I’ve heard if they actually want less gay sex going on shouldn’t they be PRO-SSM? 😛 )
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> The reality is they hate gay people and don’t want them treated as equals and all the rest is a smokescreen.

Obviously, Ms. Everhart recently watched the acclaimed documentary **I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry.** Adam Sandberg and Kevin James have opened her eyes to the horror of straight folks using same-sex marriage to unfairly take government benefits designed for gay couples! After all, if same-sex couples get these “special rights,” straights are gonna want them, too!

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9127 "2013-04-01T23:36:44Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Rick Santorum has given us the direct cause of “all this stuff about gay marriage”. What is this direct cause you ask? [Why, it’s Will & Grace, of course!](http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2013/03/31/rick-santorum-says-tv-sitcom-will-and-grace-gave-rise-to-all-this-stuff-about-gay-marriage/) How could I have been so blind?!? Thank you, Reverend Santorum.

I feel dirty just for being in the general vicinity of the same side of a point as Rick Santorum, but I made the argument to someone the other day that, horrible and stereotyped as the show was, _Will and Grace_ did play a part in nudging the Overton window in the right direction. Once people saw gays as harmless, goofy sitcom types, it made it harder to demonize them as evil corrupters of children and crazed sex fiends.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9128 "2013-04-01T23:53:56Z")

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> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#):
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> Obviously, Ms. Everhart recently watched the acclaimed documentary **I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry.** Adam Sandberg and Kevin James have opened her eyes to the horror of straight folks using same-sex marriage to unfairly take government benefits designed for gay couples! After all, if same-sex couples get these “special rights,” straights are gonna want them, too!

Wait, I can get these special rights too?

Are there any states that have legalized gay marriage between a man and a woman?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2013, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9129 "2013-04-02T00:45:34Z")

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[Aside]

A sometime fan of talk show Stephanie Miller, for a rowdy good time. Anyway, she came out as a lesbian sometime back, and this guy calls up lamenting it, and she says…

“Oh, don’t worry about it, honey, you have just as much a shot now as you ever had…”

She can cut diamonds with that tongue if she’s a mind to…

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2013, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9130 "2013-04-02T02:53:57Z")

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Bill Miller’s kid, too. Were it not for him and Goldwater getting trounced she would’ve been a heartbeat away from being First Toddler.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2013, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9131 "2013-04-02T02:57:48Z")

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I remember. Johnson was the “peace” candidate.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2013, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9132 "2013-04-02T03:04:28Z")

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Which shows how scary Barry was at the time. Who knew he’d turn out to be more liberal than modern Republicans.

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2013, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9133 "2013-04-02T04:19:39Z")

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> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#):
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> Obviously, Ms. Everhart recently watched the acclaimed documentary **I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry.** Adam **Sandberg** and Kevin James …

I swear I typed Sandler there. I have no idea who Adam Sandberg is, or if he is an avid same-sex marriage enthusiast.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2013, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9134 "2013-04-02T07:55:04Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I feel dirty just for being in the general vicinity of the same side of a point as Rick Santorum, but I made the argument to someone the other day that, horrible and stereotyped as the show was, _Will and Grace_ did play a part in nudging the Overton window in the right direction. Once people saw gays as harmless, goofy sitcom types, it made it harder to demonize them as evil corrupters of children and crazed sex fiends.

I agree with you that it definitely was a hard-hitter in the homosexual appreciation category because it was a nationwide show, but what I find hilarious about Santorum this time is that he acts like this is the ONLY show/film dealing with homosexuality. He claims this is “the” reason.:rolleyes:

We had gay Willow on Buffy, one of the most popular cult shows in history, we currently have Pretty Little Liars where one girl is homosexual, Mr. Humphries on Are You Being Served, Modern Family, Quagmire’s dad, etc. Not to mention we have cable channels like Logo which have ben around for almost ten freaking years.

In film, um, Brokeback Mountain, Mr. Santorum? The Crying Game? Torch Song Trilogy? Beginners? Philadelphia?

Even in film and his ol’ background in politics, we have Harvey Milk, where Sean Penn won best actor for portraying him. He was a well loved person and being portrayed by one of the world’s most popular actors would help some homosexual awareness too. Shit like this proves Santorum lives in his own brand of vacuum.

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2013, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9135 "2013-04-02T12:38:07Z")

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Yeah, what Santorum ignores with that statement is that the culture had to get to a certain point before a goofy sitcom with gay characters in lead roles could even exist, let alone become an extremely popular show. It wasn’t so many decades before _Will and Grace_ that gay people were still judged to be mentally ill. _Will and Grace_ is one of the end products of the fight for gay rights and acceptance, not one of the causes.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2013, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9136 "2013-04-02T12:50:58Z")

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Besides, I credit _Soap_. Billy Crystal’s gay character was the only normal person on the show.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2013, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9137 "2013-04-02T13:46:22Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Besides, I credit _Soap_. Billy Crystal’s gay character was the only normal person on the show.

Not that many people watched _Soap_. I think _Three’s Company_ had more of an influence. Sure, Jack was only pretending to be gay so he could live with two hot women, and Mr. Roper made fun of him, but the character was played very sympathetically. Some people think he’s straight, some people think he’s gay, everybody treats him like Jack. Just another person. A more subtle influence, I think.

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**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9138 "2013-04-02T20:44:30Z")

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Unless things have changed a lot since I was last there, Hutchinson wasn’t exactly a blue city.

Their round-up of how the Stupid Republican Ideas have affected Kansas:

[http://www.hutchnews.com/Columns/SUN--Probst-column](http://www.hutchnews.com/Columns/SUN--Probst-column)

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9139 "2013-04-02T21:08:51Z")

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> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#):
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> I swear I typed Sandler there. I have no idea who Adam Sandberg is, or if he is an avid same-sex marriage enthusiast.

I think you’re thinking of fellow SNL alum Andy Samberg.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2013, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9140 "2013-04-02T22:10:33Z")

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No, Santorum is right. The same thing happened in the '80s. Before Murphy Brown, nobody had out of wedlock babies and then that TV show happened and, before you could forget your condoms, there were unwed mothers all over the place.

This is why we need Republican leaders. To warn us (always too late) that TV shows are changing America’s moral fabric.

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