# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9301 "2013-04-22T03:12:04Z")

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[http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/21/1899581/arkansas-republicans-shoot-lawmakers-for-expanding-medicaid/](http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/21/1899581/arkansas-republicans-shoot-lawmakers-for-expanding-medicaid/)

**Arkansas Republican: Shoot Lawmakers For Expanding Medicaid**

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> Republicans in Benton County, Arkansas are not happy that their state legislators have agreed to expand Medicaid under Obamacare. In this month’s newsletter, columnist Chris Nogy encouraged his fellow Republicans to utilize their 2nd Amendment rights to make sure that lawmakers — particularly Republicans who vote with Democrats — are held accountable:
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> _ **snip** _
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> We need to let those who will come in the future to represent us that we are serious. The 2nd amendment means nothing unless those in power believe you would have no problem simply walking up and shooting them if they got too far out of line and stopped responding as representatives.

I recall disgusting talk like that coming from the right (remember Sarah Palin and her targets?) in the days leading up to the Gabby Giffords assassination attempt.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9302 "2013-04-22T03:14:21Z")

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If they really start acting on that then they’ve lost.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9303 "2013-04-22T11:56:30Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> [http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/21/1899581/arkansas-republicans-shoot-lawmakers-for-expanding-medicaid/](http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/21/1899581/arkansas-republicans-shoot-lawmakers-for-expanding-medicaid/)
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> **Arkansas Republican: Shoot Lawmakers For Expanding Medicaid**
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> I recall disgusting talk like that coming from the right (remember Sarah Palin and her targets?) in the days leading up to the Gabby Giffords assassination attempt.

Here are a couple more recent doozies by Arkansas Republicans:

[Jon Hubbard, Arkansas Legislator, Says Slavery May ‘Have Been A Blessing’ In New Book](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/05/jon-hubbard-arkansas-slavery-book_n_1943661.html)

[Charlie Fuqua, Arkansas Legislative Candidate, Endorses Death Penalty For Rebellious Children In Book](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/08/charlie-fuqua-arkansas-candidate-death-penalty-rebellious-children_n_1948490.html)

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9304 "2013-04-22T16:18:08Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> [**Senator Says Boston Attack Should Factor in Immigration Debate.**](http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/20/us/politics/senator-says-boston-bombing-should-be-factor-in-immigration-debate.html?hp&_r=0)
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> Way to mindlessly exploit a tragic event to push your own anti-immigration political agenda, Sen. Grassley, R-IA.
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> Asshat.

[Grassley strikes again!](http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/04/22/chuck_grassley_iowa_senator_asks_why_it_s_okay_to_cite_west_texas_explosion.html)

This morning, during the extended hearing about the immigration bill, human turd Chuck Grassley snapped that it was SO unfair that people get to politicize the West, Texas fertilizer plant explosion but he doesn’t get to do the same with the Boston bombing:

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> “I want you to take note of the fact that when you proposed gun legislation, I didn’t accuse you of taking advantage of the Norristown (sic) **(seriously, Norristown? WTF??)** situation as an excuse,” snapped Grassley when he got his chance to respond. “I don’t hear any criticism of people when there’s 14 people killed in West, Texas, and demanding taking advantage of that tragedy to warn about more government action to make sure that fertilizer factories are safe.”

Luckily the [Slate.com](http://Slate.com) article points out the bullshit:

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> The knock on regulators in West wasn’t that they were needed and some new bill must be passed to hire them. It was that they hadn’t shown up and inspected Adair Grain Inc.’s West Fertilizer Co. since 1985. So far, in Boston, there’s no evidence that a new immigration bill would have thwarted the Tsarneav brothers.

As usual, reality has a liberal bias. The Tsarnaev brothers immigrated to the US 10 years ago. The younger brother was 9 at the time. How. The. **FUCK**. is anyone supposed to guard against something like this 10 years down the line? Immigration had nothing to do with it, could not have affected it, and bringing some pointless bullshit into the conversation is just political trolling. THAT’S why its irrelevant, you donkey-raping shit eater. Just as Nate Bell thinks that people in their houses with AR-15’s would somehow help the Boston manhunt. Why? Who are you going to shoot? And how would it be any different if people had handguns instead?

Republicans are morons if they believe these “arguments” to be logical, and they are evil if they are only doing it to politicize the tragedies. On the other hand, regulations and government inspections WOULD DEFINITELY have stopped the West, Texas explosion. There is no comparison, you ass-licking uncle fucker.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9305 "2013-04-22T16:24:07Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> [http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/21/1899581/arkansas-republicans-shoot-lawmakers-for-expanding-medicaid/](http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/21/1899581/arkansas-republicans-shoot-lawmakers-for-expanding-medicaid/)
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> **Arkansas Republican: Shoot Lawmakers For Expanding Medicaid**

I came here to mention this as well.

Here’s a direct link to the Republican Newsletter in question.

[http://www.nogy.net/bcgop/Apr\_2013/index.html](http://www.nogy.net/bcgop/Apr_2013/index.html)

Here are a couple more quotes from it:

“Part of me feels that this betrayal deserves a quick implementation of my 2nd amendment rights to remove a threat domestic.”

“I don’t feel the same way about the Democrats as bullet backstops as I do about the Republicans who joined them.”

This guy really appears to believe that his second amendment rights involve being allowed to shoot people.

(On a tangential note, how did I know that if I googled him, Chris Nogy would turn out to be a paunchy, doughy, soft-looking middle aged guy.)

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9306 "2013-04-22T16:43:18Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> I came here to mention this as well.
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> Here’s a direct link to the Republican Newsletter in question.
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> [http://www.nogy.net/bcgop/Apr\_2013/index.html](http://www.nogy.net/bcgop/Apr_2013/index.html)
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> Here are a couple more quotes from it:
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> “Part of me feels that this betrayal deserves a quick implementation of my 2nd amendment rights to remove a threat domestic.”
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> “I don’t feel the same way about the Democrats as bullet backstops as I do about the Republicans who joined them.”
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> This guy really appears to believe that his second amendment rights involve being allowed to shoot people.
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> (On a tangential note, how did I know that if I googled him, Chris Nogy would turn out to be a paunchy, doughy, soft-looking middle aged guy.)

Can any of this be interpreted as a terroristic threat? This guy appears to be moving from Stupid Republican to Dangerous Republican (not to mention the assholes he might inspire). I mean, threatening violence to further your political goals…isn’t that terrorism?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9307 "2013-04-22T16:47:48Z")

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Depends. Are you brown?

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9308 "2013-04-22T16:53:44Z")

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> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#):
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> Can any of this be interpreted as a terroristic threat? This guy appears to be moving from Stupid Republican to Dangerous Republican (not to mention the assholes he might inspire). I mean, threatening violence to further your political goals…isn’t that terrorism?

It’s really hard to see what he wrote as not suggesting that people do have the right to walk up and shoot someone who they don’t believe has done their job as a representative of the people.

He does later say: “Personally, I think a gun is quicker and more merciful, but hey, we can’t.” So, clearly, he’s telling people that they can’t actually shoot others.

His statements come in the context of a pretty specific discussion, so perhaps a reasonable person might interpret his words to mean that the group of representatives who did not vote the way he wanted on this particular bill should be shot… except that people shouldn’t shoot them.

I see it as over the line. I also see it as part of a broader collection of examples in which conservatives think it’s okay to try to intimidate using firearms in order to sway political discussion.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9309 "2013-04-22T17:17:36Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> The Tsarnaev brothers immigrated to the US 10 years ago. The younger brother was 9 at the time. How. The. **FUCK**. is anyone supposed to guard against something like this 10 years down the line? Immigration had nothing to do with it, could not have affected it, and bringing some pointless bullshit into the conversation is just political trolling.

I know the stupid flows freely, but do try and keep up. The post right above yours mentions Chuck Fuqua. He rose to prominence when Fuqua, [with this choice statement](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/07/jon-hubbard-slavery_n_1946890.html?utm_hp_ref=elections-2012):

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> Fuqua, who served in the Arkansas House from 1996 to 1998, wrote there is “no solution to the Muslim problem short of expelling all followers of the religion from the United States,” in his 2012 book, titled “God’s Law.”

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**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9310 "2013-04-22T19:14:35Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> [Grassley strikes again!](http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/04/22/chuck_grassley_iowa_senator_asks_why_it_s_okay_to_cite_west_texas_explosion.html)  
> \<snip\>Republicans are morons if they believe these “arguments” to be logical, and they are evil if they are only doing it to politicize the tragedies.\</snip\>

Why can’t they be both ?

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9311 "2013-04-22T20:37:55Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> If they really start acting on that then they’ve lost.

Or won.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9312 "2013-04-22T22:05:38Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> [http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/21/1899581/arkansas-republicans-shoot-lawmakers-for-expanding-medicaid/](http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/21/1899581/arkansas-republicans-shoot-lawmakers-for-expanding-medicaid/)
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> **Arkansas Republican: Shoot Lawmakers For Expanding Medicaid**
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> > [@](#):
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> > Republicans in Benton County, Arkansas are not happy that their state legislators have agreed to expand Medicaid under Obamacare. In this month’s newsletter, columnist Chris Nogy encouraged his fellow Republicans to utilize their 2nd Amendment rights to make sure that lawmakers — particularly Republicans who vote with Democrats — are held accountable:
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> > _ **snip** _
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> > We need to let those who will come in the future to represent us that we are serious. The 2nd amendment means nothing unless those in power believe you would have no problem simply walking up and shooting them if they got too far out of line and stopped responding as representatives.
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> I recall disgusting talk like that coming from the right (remember Sarah Palin and her targets?) in the days leading up to the Gabby Giffords assassination attempt.

JFTR, the term “Second Amendment remedies” was popularized in 2010 by [del]now-Senator (then candidate) Sharron Angle in her successful bid to defeat then-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada[/del] now-loudmouth-malcontent-private-citizen/crank (then candidate) Sharron Angle in her _ **un** _successful bid to defeat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada.

😃

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9313 "2013-04-23T16:05:54Z")

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Tennessee state senator Stacey Campfield – remember him? – is in hot water again. As a reminder, he is the brilliant mind who suggested that welfare payments be reduced for families whose children perform poorly in school, and who suggested that AIDS came from some homosexual “screwing a monkey” in Africa. (“It was a pilot, I recall.”)

Anyway, Stacey can understand why some people have taken offense at his joke on his blog about [assault pressure cookers](http://blogs.tennessean.com/politics/2013/stacey-campfield-in-hot-water-over-joke-about-assault-pressure-cookers/). I mean, if people can’t see the humor in using a terrorist bombing to make a statement about gun control, they need to take the stick out of their ass, right? Actually he response, in refusing to apologize, is that liberals need to be taken to task for their double standard regarding handguns and dangerous cookery.

I’m beginning to think he sits around thinking of new ways to get on the _Colbert Report_.

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**Author:** ![Reyemile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@Reyemile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reyemile)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9314 "2013-04-23T20:45:31Z")

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Piers Morgan to Republican NY state senator Greg Ball:

[“Can you stop being such a jerk?”](http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2013/04/23/piers-morgan-to-greg-ball-senator-can-you-stop-being-such-a-jerk/)

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**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9315 "2013-04-23T20:58:52Z")

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Missouri republicans have[eliminated all funding](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/23/missouri-republicans-vote-to-stop-issuing-drivers-licenses-over-gun-records-conspiracy-theory/) for the statewide Drivers License Bureau because of fears over Agenda 21 fears from the wife of a committee member.

Glen Beck apparently still has an audience in Missouri.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9316 "2013-04-23T21:12:52Z")

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Typo of the day…

“…to help law enforcement identify people who were weapons…”

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**Author:** ![Running\_with\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Running\_with\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Running_with_Scissors)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9317 "2013-04-23T21:42:01Z")

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She’s back…

[Stella Tremblay, New Hampshire Legislator, Says U.S. Government Planned Boston Bombing](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/23/stella-tremblay-boston-bombing_n_3140461.html)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9318 "2013-04-23T21:51:18Z")

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This Tremblay woman appears to be mentally ill. She’s a GOP elected politician?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9319 "2013-04-23T21:54:22Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> This Tremblay woman appears to be mentally ill. She’s a GOP elected politician?

But you repeat yourself…

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9320 "2013-04-23T21:59:03Z")

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For get gun sellers; apparently the \*NH state senate \*needs to do background checks for mental illness.

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