# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2013, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9421 "2013-05-04T23:22:16Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> OOPS! My embarrassment; I didn’t realize you were quoting her misquotation. Apologies.
> 
> Well, fair is fair, then: credit to her for getting the grammar right, even if the quote isn’t.

No problem. I was a little cryptic. Is “protestest” really correct? If so, I guess that’s three strikes and I’m out.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2013, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9422 "2013-05-04T23:59:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian]

No problem. I was a little cryptic. Is “protestest” really correct?

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Yes, if used with the second-person pronoun “thou”.

The full conjugation would be:  
\*  
I protest  
Thou protestest  
He, she or it protesteth  
We protest  
You protest  
They protest  
\*

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2013, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9423 "2013-05-04T23:59:53Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> No problem. I was a little cryptic. Is “protestest” really correct? If so, I guess that’s three strikes and I’m out.

“Protestest” is perfectly good Early Modern (Elizabethan/Jacobean) English, but only as the complement to “thou”. With “he”, “she”, “it”, or a noun subject, you want “protests” or “protesteth”, which are dialectal variants and interchangeable at that period (obviously the -s form won in the long run).

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9424 "2013-05-05T00:01:01Z")

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[http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/study-us-won-t-act-climate-change-because-citizens-believe-world-ending](http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/study-us-won-t-act-climate-change-because-citizens-believe-world-ending)

Read “Citizens” as Republicans.

Some [del]highlights[/del] distressing elements.

“[T]he fact that such an overwhelming percentage of Republican citizens profess a belief in the Second Coming (76 percent in 2006, according to our sample) suggests that governmental attempts to curb greenhouse emissions would encounter stiff resistance even if every Democrat in the country wanted to curb them,”

–That sentiment is not just confined to average citizens. The chairman of the Subcommittee on Environment and the Economy, Rep. John Shimkus, said in 2010 that he opposed action on climate change because “the Earth will end only when God declares it to be over.”

“\*t stands to reason that most nonbelievers would support preserving the Earth for future generations, but that end-times believers would rationally perceive such efforts to be ultimately futile, and hence ill-advised,” Barker and Bearce wrote.

My great-grandchildren are fubar-ed.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2013, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9425 "2013-05-05T01:27:06Z")

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[http://www.yourwestvalley.com/valleyandstate/article\_3068dace-b411-11e2-9868-0019bb2963f4.html](http://www.yourwestvalley.com/valleyandstate/article_3068dace-b411-11e2-9868-0019bb2963f4.html)  
Basically, Planned Parenthood is evil.

Gov. Brewer [del]is[/del] was trying to do the right thing by getting 300,000 people to the rolls of the Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System.

[del]Fuctards[/del] GOP limp kneerers got blackmailed by the anti-abortion Center for Arizona Policy and backed off support.

Course the Dems won’t support restrictions on Planned Parenthood so those votes go away. So much for the folks who could use the health care.

I believe the strategy is since poor people may not have health care, accidents and disease will kill them off making the white old guys the majority again. Am I being too cynical?

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2013, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9426 "2013-05-05T03:15:47Z")

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South Carolina is attempting to [nullify Obamacare](http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2013/05/03/obamacare-nullification-bill-forges-ahead-in-south-carolina). The House passed the bill, it now goes to the (Republican-controlled) Senate. As of March, a similar bill is in the same state (passed by House, waiting on the Republican-controlled Senate) in Oklahoma.

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**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2013, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9427 "2013-05-05T07:16:49Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Nitpick: anthropogenic global warming. Anthropomorphic global warming would say that global warming was caused by the Heat Miser 🙂

Well, then that’s a result of anthrosenescence :(.

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2013, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9428 "2013-05-05T13:43:33Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> South Carolina is attempting to [nullify Obamacare](http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2013/05/03/obamacare-nullification-bill-forges-ahead-in-south-carolina). The House passed the bill, it now goes to the (Republican-controlled) Senate. As of March, a similar bill is in the same state (passed by House, waiting on the Republican-controlled Senate) in Oklahoma.

If only we had already fought a war over the issue of states like South Carolina trying to nullify federal laws. Then this issue would be settled.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9429 "2013-05-05T21:08:02Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> [http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/study-us-won-t-act-climate-change-because-citizens-believe-world-ending](http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/study-us-won-t-act-climate-change-because-citizens-believe-world-ending)
> 
> Read “Citizens” as Republicans.
> 
> Some [del]highlights[/del] distressing elements.
> 
> “[T]he fact that such an overwhelming percentage of Republican citizens profess a belief in the Second Coming (76 percent in 2006, according to our sample) suggests that governmental attempts to curb greenhouse emissions would encounter stiff resistance even if every Democrat in the country wanted to curb them,”
> 
> –That sentiment is not just confined to average citizens. The chairman of the Subcommittee on Environment and the Economy, Rep. John Shimkus, said in 2010 that he opposed action on climate change because “the Earth will end only when God declares it to be over.”
> 
> “\*t stands to reason that most nonbelievers would support preserving the Earth for future generations, but that end-times believers would rationally perceive such efforts to be ultimately futile, and hence ill-advised,” Barker and Bearce wrote.
> 
> My great-grandchildren are fubar-ed.

In a similar vein, it seems to me fundamentalists want a strong Israel and wars in the Middle East to hasten Armageddon.

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**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2013, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9430 "2013-05-05T22:25:02Z")

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At the NRA convention going on or just finished in Houston, the NRA had to ask a vendor to remove a ‘target’ for sale that resembles Obama. The target is in human form, and advertised as a zombie. It is life sized, green skinned and has ‘blood’ pouring out of its mouth. The picture of it is vile. I’m not gonna link to it, but the story is posted on Salon.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2013, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9431 "2013-05-05T22:51:19Z")

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> [@Frostillicus](#):
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> If only we had already fought a war over the issue of states like South Carolina trying to nullify federal laws. Then this issue would be settled.

Does the US Army have any serving generals named Sherman? Because we’re gonna need one in a bit.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9432 "2013-05-06T01:30:45Z")

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Nah, you don’t want Sherman doing it because he was already too nice to Georgia. Proof: Georgia still exists. 😉

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9433 "2013-05-07T00:41:26Z")

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> [@Ca3799](#):
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> At the NRA convention going on or just finished in Houston, the NRA had to ask a vendor to remove a ‘target’ for sale that resembles Obama. The target is in human form, and advertised as a zombie. It is life sized, green skinned and has ‘blood’ pouring out of its mouth. The picture of it is vile. I’m not gonna link to it, but the story is posted on Salon.

Note that the NRA did not object to the one that looks like a woman, named “[The Ex](http://d1o2xrel38nv1n.cloudfront.net/files/2013/05/the-ex-zombie-industries-1.jpg)”.

Stay classy, shooters.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9434 "2013-05-08T18:24:46Z")

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[http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/05/08/1978371/north-carolina-std-testing-consent/](http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/05/08/1978371/north-carolina-std-testing-consent/)  
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North Carolina May Force Teens To Get Notarized Parental Consent Before Getting STD Tests\*\*

Naturally a Teahadist bill. I suspect many teenagers would rather not be tested than get their parents’ permission for testing. I can just imagine many parents saying something to the effect: "I KNEW THAT G-DAMN KID WAS NO GOOD!! And you slept with (him)/(her)?!!! Makes me cringe to think about even at my advanced age.

BTW, from the piece:

> [@](#):
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> . . . 93 percent of Democrats, 76 percent of Republicans, and 79 percent of independents favor the state’s current Minor’s Right to Consent law that allows youth to obtain sexual health resources without getting explicit permission from their parents.

That does not dissuade the religious minded Teahadists from going forward with this little gonad control bill.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9435 "2013-05-08T18:36:40Z")

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> **[Internal Affairs: After ’embarrassing’ rape comments, California Republican...](https://www.mercurynews.com/2013/05/05/internal-affairs-after-embarrassing-rape-comments-california-republican-assembly-ousts-president/)**
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> Internal Affairs: After ’embarrassing’ rape comments, California Republican Assembly ousts president

Ah the GOP and rape. They need to learn to STFU.

**California Republican Assembly ousts president**

> [@](#):
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> Celeste Greig’s odd remarks as president of the California Republican Assembly dismissing pregnancy as a risk from rape earlier this year – in a national story our Capitol correspondent broke – proved too much even for that highly conservative group to bear.
> 
> The CRA, which Ronald Reagan once called the “conscience of the Republican Party,” ousted Greig as president last weekend in an 84-78 vote at its convention, replacing her with John Briscoe, a 63-year-old accountant from Fountain Valley.
> 
> Briscoe’s campaign manager, Aaron Park, a conservative blogger from the Sacramento area, said Greig’s comment that pregnancy by rape is rare “because the body is traumatized” was “embarrassing” and led to a collapse of her support among CRA members. He added that her failure to address the blowback compounded the problem.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9436 "2013-05-08T19:16:14Z")

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No, they need to keep on talking about it. Every time one of them opens their mouth, 5 more people switch to voting Democrat. 😃

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9437 "2013-05-08T19:23:39Z")

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However, every time one of them shuts up, a thousand voters switch to Republican. Happily, this is not seen to be much of a threat.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9438 "2013-05-08T21:55:31Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> I suspect many teenagers would rather not be tested than get their parents’ permission for testing.

I’m sure that they think that this act will pressure teens to come forward to their parents about their sexual activities, when all it will really do is make sure that any STD they do get just goes untreated. I also think that there is a very strong undercurrent on the right that desires to punish anyone who has sex outside marriage, and might see having an STD treated quickly and quietly as escaping their just deserts.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9439 "2013-05-08T22:36:21Z")

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[The latest kerfuffle](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/05/08/heritage-study-co-author-opposed-letting-in-immigrants-with-low-iqs/) from one of the GOP’s purveyors of intellectual (such as it is) ammunition:

> [@](#):
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> The Heritage Foundation made something of a splash with its study suggesting that immigration reform will cost the public trillions. Past work by one of its co-authors helps put that piece in context.
> 
> Jason Richwine is relatively new to the think tank world. He received his PhD in public policy from Harvard in 2009, and joined Heritage after a brief stay at the American Enterprise Institute. Richwine’s doctoral dissertation is titled “IQ and Immigration Policy”; the contents are well summarized in the dissertation abstract:
> 
> “The statistical construct known as IQ can reliably estimate general mental ability, or intelligence. The average IQ of immigrants in the United States is substantially lower than that of the white native population, and the difference is likely to persist over several generations.”…
> 
> He writes, “No one knows whether Hispanics will ever reach IQ parity with whites, but the prediction that new Hispanic immigrants will have low-IQ children and grandchildren is difficult to argue against.”…

So how’s the GOP’s peachy-outreachy thing working out for 'em? :rolleyes: :smack:

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**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/9440 "2013-05-08T23:31:26Z")

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Bwuh?? :eek: 😕

Okay, so just from that quote:

How do we know that immigrants have lower IQs? Do we test them when they get here, in a big room at the airport somewhere? Do they submit paperwork that they brought with them from home? You’re saying that we know for a fact that all immigrants as a group have lower IQs than all native-born Americans, including Cletus and Jethro and those punks hanging out at the gas station?

Then, in case we thought that the word “immigrants” means people from Guatemala or Estonia or Vietnam or New Zealand, he specifies “Hispanic immigrants.”

Then he claims that people with low IQs will necessarily have children (and grandchildren) with low IQs. While I can believe low IQ people might not have much to teach their kids, or might denigrate education because of their own struggles in school, I have never heard that one can breed for high or low intelligence the way someone can inherit a tendency toward blue eyes or breast cancer. Lots of children of ordinary parents take to knowledge like a duck takes to water.

What’s _this_ guy’s IQ, anyway? :mad:

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